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ORIGINAL: witpqs
One thing to keep in mind is that by this time, if your opponent has been paying attention to it, all of his Australian infantry squads should be done upgrading to the current best standard - what's it called, AMF 42 or something? There will still be units filling out for a while to come, but all the militia should be gone by now.
ORIGINAL: Historiker
How is it stated so nicely in Shattered Sword?
The Japanese faild to follow the principle to use the maximum available power when it was needed.
Go one by one, but make sure you gain something worth the delay. That means: Make sure you let the better prepared enemy forces not get away!
ORIGINAL: castor troy
ORIGINAL: witpqs
One thing to keep in mind is that by this time, if your opponent has been paying attention to it, all of his Australian infantry squads should be done upgrading to the current best standard - what's it called, AMF 42 or something? There will still be units filling out for a while to come, but all the militia should be gone by now.
AIF42. By end Feb the Allied can upgrade all his CMF and CMF Militia squads if he knows how to.
ORIGINAL: Historiker
The Brit CVs should start leaving in July or so.
ORIGINAL: Historiker
I would, if that takes out Jap CVs.
Who cares about some PP, when enemy Capital Ships can be sunk?
One of the biggest mistakes in military history always was to believe you can anticipate your opponent's moves accurate.ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: Historiker
I would, if that takes out Jap CVs.
Who cares about some PP, when enemy Capital Ships can be sunk?
One of the biggest parts of the war I've been working on is how to understand my opponent, and his potential for action. So far he has been mostly cautious with occasional feisty moments of surprise.
Through my brash use of the fleet early on I'd like to give him pause whenever he considers an operation and to keep his best assets out of harm's way until he is stronger. The current Mini-KB attack on Perth, the second strike in several weeks, is slightly beyond the line of what should be safe right now. This would make me think he wouldn't be comfortable leaving the British CVs at Columbo, which would be the best place to be able to react to a move into the Indian Ocean, but is also vulnerable to a move from around Sumatra. I do know that at least 1-2 of the US CVs are in the Pacific, but I haven't seen a British CV anywhere yet during the game.
Based on comments by Jocke in our emails I know he is scrambling to get enough units into place and has bemoaned the lack of PPs several times. I assume that if the withdrawal was soon he would be preparing by keeping the CV in a place where it could easily get back to a port to save the points.
Still, if I do go for the Atolls in the IO I will set a sub wall around the area and have search on AVs a good distance from the invasion fleet and the Mini-KB. It's still a month away, so things may be very different by then.
Another thing to consider is that with Junyo back into shape by then (I think) the Mini-KB should be strong enough to do well against the British. It has at full capacity: 88 A6M2, 54 B5N2, and 15 D3A1. The main worry would be CVs coming unexpectedly through the wormhole.
What do you hope to gain with Diego and Addu?
One 250 kg could sink her, but I wouldn't count on it. Allied damage control is just too good.ORIGINAL: obvert
HMAS Vendetta. Hopefully we've seen the last of this ship. She's been a menace to the subs in the area for months.
ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
One 250 kg could sink her, but I wouldn't count on it. Allied damage control is just too good.ORIGINAL: obvert
HMAS Vendetta. Hopefully we've seen the last of this ship. She's been a menace to the subs in the area for months.
Understand your concerns. Couple things to realize about SLs.
1 The SLs relate to game troop density, not IRL troop density. IRL troop densities are very different; about 2 to 3 times game troop densities. So IRL troop density concerns don’t have much relevance to the algorithm.
2 The SLs aren’t hard limits. If either side goes over the limit what happens is they experience greater fatigue and disruption (random 1 to 5 for each unit) and, most importantly, eat supply at a higher rate; for each 10% over the stack limit, supply usage increases by an additional 20%. Obviously, the larger the SL for a hex, the larger the unit that can cause an overstack and begin the supply penalty.
There’s lots of headroom, in the vast majority of China hexes, for major battles with very large formations, on both sides. There’s generally room for 3 J-Divs and supporting combat troops (Arty, Tanks, and Engs), facing 4 to 5 Chinese Corps (about 60-80k per side, per hex). The only thing limited is the Megastack.
The SLs try to take account of the 3:1 ratio. In a fully occupied defended hex, it’s gonna be a bitch for an attacker to get a decent ratio for more than a few turns because of the limits. But then that’s how it was, yeah? So I don’t think Japan is gonna run rampant. If China chooses well and defends correctly, results in that theater might show up a bit closer to nominal: and an SL limited ‘difficult’ terrain hex will swing even more to the defender’s advantage.
No advantage to Arty. Believe me Joel, that’s the first thing we tested. Frankly, arty works like it’s supposed to if it’s used as it was.
Armor is helpful, but we’ve been using Babes where the whole armor thing has been redone. Haven’t seen anything where armor provides any significant advantage. In highly disadvantageous terrain, it is proportionally disadvantaged.
But, of course, all this is predicated on the players being righteous. And those are the very players the SLs were done for.
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This is my reply to your opponent's inquire about using stacking limits with existing games. Just so you known what I said.
Jocke,
The first few turns with the new Pwhex files (there are three found in link below) was adjustment for both sides. Since I'm playing Japan, I had my "Death Star" one hex to the west of Changsha in China at Siangtan (95k limit with 149k actual). The first turn found my Allied opponent pulling out of hex totally and the AI gave me possession. When I looked at the base afterwards, ALL my supply with the troops was destroyed. OUCH!! However, the next turn showed the units refilling with supply, but that was a surprise.
My Allied opponent had his "Death Star" one hex SE from Chittagong. He had 12 divisions and 9 armored units in hex. He attacked the turn before and the turn after the Pwhex. He lost a lot of vehicles the turn after. I was already in the process of pulling back a hex as 3 of 5 divisions need to be rebuilt.
On my last turn, I was trying to send a partially rebuilt division from Cox Bazar into the hex directly east and was unable to give orders. The hex due east of Cox is still overstacked, so the move was not allowed. It looks like you cannot deliberately add more troops to a hex that is overstacked. More learning, I think.
Overall, I don't think I'll go back to playing a game without these stacking limits. Yes, there will be some period of adjustment, but I will need to become better with tactics and use mobility to achieve my goals. I will need to experiment with how much I can overstack a hex and deal with the extra disruption in combat.
Michael
https://sites.google.com/site/dababeswi ... limit-data
This is from JWE:
Understand your concerns. Couple things to realize about SLs.
1 The SLs relate to game troop density, not IRL troop density. IRL troop densities are very different; about 2 to 3 times game troop densities. So IRL troop density concerns don’t have much relevance to the algorithm.
2 The SLs aren’t hard limits. If either side goes over the limit what happens is they experience greater fatigue and disruption (random 1 to 5 for each unit) and, most importantly, eat supply at a higher rate; for each 10% over the stack limit, supply usage increases by an additional 20%. Obviously, the larger the SL for a hex, the larger the unit that can cause an overstack and begin the supply penalty.
There’s lots of headroom, in the vast majority of China hexes, for major battles with very large formations, on both sides. There’s generally room for 3 J-Divs and supporting combat troops (Arty, Tanks, and Engs), facing 4 to 5 Chinese Corps (about 60-80k per side, per hex). The only thing limited is the Megastack.
The SLs try to take account of the 3:1 ratio. In a fully occupied defended hex, it’s gonna be a bitch for an attacker to get a decent ratio for more than a few turns because of the limits. But then that’s how it was, yeah? So I don’t think Japan is gonna run rampant. If China chooses well and defends correctly, results in that theater might show up a bit closer to nominal: and an SL limited ‘difficult’ terrain hex will swing even more to the defender’s advantage.
No advantage to Arty. Believe me Joel, that’s the first thing we tested. Frankly, arty works like it’s supposed to if it’s used as it was.
Armor is helpful, but we’ve been using Babes where the whole armor thing has been redone. Haven’t seen anything where armor provides any significant advantage. In highly disadvantageous terrain, it is proportionally disadvantaged.
But, of course, all this is predicated on the players being righteous. And those are the very players the SLs were done for.
