The War for Survival - M60A3TTS vs Saper222
Moderators: Joel Billings, Sabre21
RE: WEEK 7
The only HQs I disbanded other than corps HQ was Baltic and Black Sea fleet HQs. The game may be counting army HQs destroyed that got killed in a pocket, but then reappear the following turn.
RE: WEEK 7
HQs caught in pockets are supposed to displace, not get destroyed.
Maybe you can look at the list of destroyed units, turn by turn, and list the HQs from there.
Maybe you can look at the list of destroyed units, turn by turn, and list the HQs from there.
WEEK 8
WEEK 8 - 8/7/41
The situation is not good on any front but is particularly difficult near Moscow.
In the north, Saper surrounded several divisions around the Valdai.
In the center, his forces punch through the Rzhev-Kaluga line and go so far as to destroy some aircraft factories at Khimki
In the south, Belgorod falls and several Red Army units are cut off south of Stalino.
Factory evacuations continue as the 15 arms of Rostov are sent east.
The situation is not good on any front but is particularly difficult near Moscow.
In the north, Saper surrounded several divisions around the Valdai.
In the center, his forces punch through the Rzhev-Kaluga line and go so far as to destroy some aircraft factories at Khimki
In the south, Belgorod falls and several Red Army units are cut off south of Stalino.
Factory evacuations continue as the 15 arms of Rostov are sent east.
WEEK 9
WEEK 9 - 8/14/41
In the north, Saper finishes off the units surrounded around the Valdai Hills and pushes on with his mobile forces.
In the center with the Rzhev-Kaluga line breached, it was necessary to fall back in the north of Moscow.
In the south, an attempt to relieve the pocket and at least attempt to put up a fight has more Red Army units cut off.
In the north, Saper finishes off the units surrounded around the Valdai Hills and pushes on with his mobile forces.
In the center with the Rzhev-Kaluga line breached, it was necessary to fall back in the north of Moscow.
In the south, an attempt to relieve the pocket and at least attempt to put up a fight has more Red Army units cut off.
RE: WEEK 9
OUCH ! He strikes really hard ! [:(] His Panzers are simply too fast... Amazing ! (for a noobie like me [:)])
WEEK 10
WEEK 10 - 8/21/41
The 7th Independent Army in the far north continues to force the Finns to fight for terrain, but are still losing consistently to their northern opponent
Farther south, no deep strike eastward by German forces, but still maneuvering to gobble up more and more of the Red Army. It's hard for infantry to outrun tanks.
The Germans reach Voronezh.
Farther south, will he have enough time to march on Stalingrad?
All major factory evacuations are complete except for the arms at Tula.
The 7th Independent Army in the far north continues to force the Finns to fight for terrain, but are still losing consistently to their northern opponent
Farther south, no deep strike eastward by German forces, but still maneuvering to gobble up more and more of the Red Army. It's hard for infantry to outrun tanks.
The Germans reach Voronezh.
Farther south, will he have enough time to march on Stalingrad?
All major factory evacuations are complete except for the arms at Tula.
RE: WEEK 10
You fighting at all in the south? To be that far south that early is not possible unless you simply are not fighting?
If he can push on to Stalingrad then hes found a way around .13 for sure. As the railhead on turn 8 is 270 miles west of D-town.
I have seen in one of my games and I have to check the others now 3 panzer HQ's with 500+ fuel in them(42), which is not possible even after build ups now if .13 is working.
Mybee something is just plain broken as the railheads in the south are way past 20 hexes from the front, so fuel should be very low under normal .13.
But if for some reason HQ's are holding more then 200 pts of fuel now then muling is back and so are run away 41's again.
If he can push on to Stalingrad then hes found a way around .13 for sure. As the railhead on turn 8 is 270 miles west of D-town.
I have seen in one of my games and I have to check the others now 3 panzer HQ's with 500+ fuel in them(42), which is not possible even after build ups now if .13 is working.
Mybee something is just plain broken as the railheads in the south are way past 20 hexes from the front, so fuel should be very low under normal .13.
But if for some reason HQ's are holding more then 200 pts of fuel now then muling is back and so are run away 41's again.
Beta Tester WitW & WitE
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gingerbread
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RE: WEEK 10
What versions are you and your opponent using? Yours is stated on the top bar, his in the event log.
WEEK 11
WEEK 11 - 8/28/41
The AAR is now updated to the current situation.
Things are continuing to go in Saper's favor. Overall Red Army losses surpass 2 million and 80 rifle divisions destroyed. His advance to Leningrad is slowed a bit but the Germans are moving ever closer to the vital rail link supplying Leningrad.
North of Moscow, he continues to hold his pocket and threatens to envelop Moscow.
The worst blow is that he raids the rail lines behind Tula by driving north and cuts off the evacuation of the 29 arms factories there. As a small consolation, I pull all 15 vehicle factories from Moscow that should insure adequate tank and mech corps down the road (assuming we get that far )
The AAR is now updated to the current situation.
Things are continuing to go in Saper's favor. Overall Red Army losses surpass 2 million and 80 rifle divisions destroyed. His advance to Leningrad is slowed a bit but the Germans are moving ever closer to the vital rail link supplying Leningrad.
North of Moscow, he continues to hold his pocket and threatens to envelop Moscow.
The worst blow is that he raids the rail lines behind Tula by driving north and cuts off the evacuation of the 29 arms factories there. As a small consolation, I pull all 15 vehicle factories from Moscow that should insure adequate tank and mech corps down the road (assuming we get that far )
RE: WEEK 10
ORIGINAL: Pelton
You fighting at all in the south? To be that far south that early is not possible unless you simply are not fighting?
If he can push on to Stalingrad then hes found a way around .13 for sure. As the railhead on turn 8 is 270 miles west of D-town.
I have seen in one of my games and I have to check the others now 3 panzer HQ's with 500+ fuel in them(42), which is not possible even after build ups now if .13 is working.
Mybee something is just plain broken as the railheads in the south are way past 20 hexes from the front, so fuel should be very low under normal .13.
But if for some reason HQ's are holding more then 200 pts of fuel now then muling is back and so are run away 41's again.
Yes, I am fighting in the south. In fact I've made some successful attacks north, center and south. But with my thinning units, I risk encirclement with these units. Here is a shot of his units and in some cases I've indicated the Off Rail MP and Off Rail Range next to some of his units in order to give you an idea how far ahead of his railheads he is operating.
RE: WEEK 10
To look at this and not think something is "odd" one would have to be a complete moron.
Beta Tester WitW & WitE
RE: WEEK 10
How much air supply is flying in for those guys way out on the point?
"We are going to attack all night, and attack tomorrow morning..... If we are not victorious, let no one come back alive!" -- Patton
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Harrybanana
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RE: WEEK 10
ORIGINAL: Baelfiin
How much air supply is flying in for those guys way out on the point?
Excellent question Baelfiin, I would like to know the answer to this myself. Saper and I are wrapping up our current game and about to start a new one and I must admit I am very worried.
Robert Harris
RE: WEEK 10
Yikes, he is really moving...
RE: WEEK 10
Perhaps Goring traveled to the future and brought back large transport planes that can carry panzers.
RE: WEEK 10
Here are the air missions he has flown for the last three turns. You can see he actively attacks airfields and is even bombing Stalingrad.
RE: WEEK 7
ORIGINAL: randallw
HQs caught in pockets are supposed to displace, not get destroyed.
Maybe you can look at the list of destroyed units, turn by turn, and list the HQs from there.
I reviewed the logs, and they were all miscellaneous air commands, i.e. Volga, Black Sea Fleet, etc.
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Harrybanana
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RE: Turn 1
ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS
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I have now received my first turn from Saper and, in my opinion, he has slightly improved on his above opening aginst you, particularly in the south. For example he has already captured not only Rovno, but also Proskurov.
Looking at the screen shot above it looks like you were able to move the 57th tank division which is usually frozen 5 hexes ESE of Rovno. How were you able to do this?
Robert Harris