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Post by davewolf »

Just kinda more successfull Ardennes offensive by the dying Reds then... ?
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Post by Tom1939 »

Yes, I had over 1000 panthers I think by this time in reserve. And I had no problem with bringing destroyed panzer korpses to full strength. With this Rick must have problems, as his panther production should be about 60% of mine. But he should have as I had 10+ full strength panzer korpses... And I mean cv 250+ by that. Right now I have about 8 tank armies at average cv 130... This guys are only usefull against infatry a 2 or 3:1, and the panzer korpses have to be attacked by 4 of them to have a chance...

So this is not even an ardennek stuff, just killing of the brave ones (ss) and the ones who are at the bad place in bad time (39th panzer korps wandered into striking range with the 6 tank armies in reserve at the Moscow front).

So I might make it bloody, but I do not have hope on a draw. I think Lenningrad will fall within a month, and I'm lucky if I can hold Moscow until fall.
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Post by RickyB »

This week, huge air battles were fought in the Leningrad area, and the Red Air Force airfields were hit very hard by bombers. Intelligence reports indicate that the enemy fighters are badly depleted and will be unable to protect their bombers after another couple of weeks of this, if our fighters can hold up themselves.

The panzers struck due north again, reaching the outskirts of Leningrad and the enemy airfields that have huge clouds of smoke rising from them. But they are isolated again, although with limited air cover. The enemy counterattacks this week will show how the remainder of the war will be fought.

Axis/Soviet

955/4785 Squads
203/570 AFVs
241/1427 Guns
1045/1864

I think Tamas understates his position, and is in much better shape than he thinks. Based on combat reports, I am sure Soviet artillery is running short, but otherwise equipment should be fairly abundent after the long rainy period. I would guess that the Germans have the advantage in manpower, artillery and the air, while the Soviets are at least equal in tanks. Anyway, the fall of Leningrad is key, with the loss of its manpower and factories. But even that may not be enough.
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Post by Tom1939 »

1944. june 24.
Clear

The disorganized withdraw in the Lenningrad area has continued. The days of the city are numbered. At least one of the entrapped tank armies fleed to freedom. So there will be 7 tank armies giving their life for Moscow. The entrapped one will be destroyed for sure next week. Red air force tried to wrestle air supriority in the north to give the fleeing red army a chance. But our first attack were slaughtered so decisively that the red air force began to flee as well.

And those betrayal finns sent a war declaration. Those damned gravediggers!

Losses this week:

We lost a lot of planes for a few germans:(

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I would be so happy to be equal with the mighty panzer forces with my armor, but I estimate at least 2.5:1 german supriority in this as well. I think the best I have is a german supriority of about 1.4:1 in infantry. I don't have artillery. I don't have an air force which could hit anything, but uncovered prey. All I hope for is to catch 1 or 2 panzer korpses before Moscow, but this time my tank armies will die in the defence of the city. No more retreats!
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Post by davewolf »

Originally posted by Tom1939
No more retreats!

Win or die!

Ahh, that's a fight we're all looking for, isn't it?
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Post by Tom1939 »

You gonna see a die with honor variation:)
Or a go down with all guns blazing...
Or a some germans will bite in to the grass before its finished...
or.....
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Post by RickyB »

The German army, in a frenzy over the destruction and loss of so many fellow soldiers near the end of the war, struck with fury at the Soviet army. 1 tank and 5 infantry armies were destroyed, although a further 3 held out from our attacks. The fall of Leningrad within 3 weeks was predicted and plans for the advance on Moscow were prepared.

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1023/6137 Squads
239/1189 AFVs
283/1496 Guns
128/0 Planes
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44. july 1.
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The rage of our hated enemy will go stronger and stronger. Another one bites to dust... Oh I love that Queen song:)

Of course the victim is another panzer korps. The 47th panzer korps tried to cut Lenningrad's supply line. This korps must have been out of supply for a long time as it was very weak, had no air or ground support. The brave soviet infantrymen destroyed the proud panzers without the help of any soviet tanks.

In the south 3 soviet armies counterattacked a german korps penetrating our lines. It was a bloodbath. Unluckily not for the germans...

Our situation is still hopless as the enemy will take Lenningrad in timeplan:(

After that Moscow will be an easy prey, as the soviet armored forces suffered a shattering defeat at the gates of Lenningrad.

Today the High Soviet Court sentenced Dietrich to death for his warcrimes. The execution will take place on november 7th on the red square, or sooner if needed...

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

620/376
762/31
524/19
55/7

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Originally posted by Tom1939
Today the High Soviet Court sentenced Dietrich to death for his warcrimes. The execution will take place on november 7th on the red square, or sooner if needed...

Don't wait too long.

It seems the loss of another Panzerkorps (!) shows that final victory is near...

...

...WTF?

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Post by RickyB »

WTF is right. The performance of the HEER in the east is a disaster in the making, with massive Soviet tank armies lying in wait for us. Time is running out though, as peace may be declared if the war drags on for too long.

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875/3452 Squads
134/870 AFVs
186/870 Guns
104/0 Planes
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Post by Tom1939 »

Well, final victory is really close for Rick. Lenningrad will fall for sure. And I'm sure Moscow will fall soon after it, the only question is the cost for the germans. I will hit back every time I can, but there is no more ground to give up... I don't think 7 weak tank armies will stop the wermacht and the Luftwaffe. I can only hit back after a german advance. And one more german advance and I lose Moscow. Yes some panzers will be lost, but the war will be won.
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1944. july 8.
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This week was relatively quite. We rushed some forces to the north to counter the too brave panzers in the future with more effectivity. In the south our forces managed 2 succesfull small counterattacks. An infantry korps advancing east of Kiev was beaten back, and an encircled soviet army broke through to freedom. On the Mosow front 4929 crap soviet tanks in 8 tank armies await the final german advance. 1176 other tanks are used in the defensive forces of Moscow. But without any air support will this be enough? Can the t34/85's match the panther's? Or the jsII's the king tigers? The bigest tank battle of history will be fought very soon...

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

467/421
2/116
436/71
117/0

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Post by RickyB »

Rumors of massive numbers of Soviet tanks are spreading through our forces, as they attempt in vain the final isolation of Leningrad. However, our brave allies, striking from the north, shatter a large army in the northern suburbs of Leningrad, bringing encouragement to our tired soldiers. Approximately 8000 tanks and SPGs are ready for the final battles in the northern and central fronts, plus more in reserve. Will it be enough against the Soviet hordes?

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547/4158 Squads
122/274 AFVs
244/914 Guns
98/0 Planes
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Post by Tom1939 »

1944. july 15.
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The army sthattered in the Lenningrad area was lead by a traitor. We took steps for avoiding things like that (just unluck, a strong army with enough OP's if I remember right).

In the south the usual stuff continues. The fascist infantry and air force mob a single soviet army and forces it to retreat. After that the soviet armies around strike back and the victorious axis korps advancing runs back where it came from. This week this happened adjecent to Dnepropetrovsk. Very few german panzers are spotted in the area, and our forces have seemingly much more tanks here then the enemy. But this is no use as the enemy has complete dominance of the air and the tank armies are needed elsewhere.

In the north we strengthened the armies guarding the supply lines of Lenningrad. They all have strong tank and infantry units, and are behind the river. Of course this wont stop the german panzers but might result in some more german crap metal.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

128/108
11/45
169/11
0/0

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Post by RickyB »

Leningrad held up to a direct attack this week, while a new drive to the east to cut its lifeline across Lake Ladoga was begun with a hard fought success to cross the river line. Also, the offensive spread to the Moscow area with a drive toward the south, but the penetration was kept to a small hole until further reserves reach the area. The troops thrown back in the south were Rumanian and Italian allies and so little was expected of them. German troops advanced over the allies bodies and pushed back to Dnepropetrovsk.

Axis/Soviet (approx totals as the reports were lost)

1346/2832 Squads
447/384 AFVs
368/652 Guns
161/0 Planes
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44. july 22.
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The german bridgehead east of Lenningrad was thrown back by a strong combined arms attack, and the river defence line is restored. Hopefully this will give a chance for the Lenningrad defenders. Luckily the Luftwaffe did not spot our massive reinforcements arriving by sea to the heroic defenders of the city. Hopefully even more then the 100 panzers last week will perish attacking the city.

In the south we spotted a panzer korps! As it was in position to possibly cut off the whole area from Kiev to Smolensk with the assist of a centre area ss panzer korps it had to be pushed back. The panzer korps was attacked by 2 shock and 2 normal armies. The proud german panzers runned like scared children facing strong soviet armor instead of helpless infantry with no guns.

The situation is still hopeless, but at least the germans are falling like fly's as well.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

472/488
75/156
693/33
95/0

Stavka
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Post by davewolf »

Originally posted by Tom1939
The situation is still hopeless

Considering the rest of your report, that sounds very much like the famous Hungarian understatement... ;) :p
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Post by RickyB »

I think the Soviets/Hungarians are full of understatements as they fight to the death against the well deserved retribution of the German forces. The direct attack on Moscow is being avoided due to the massed tank armies defending it. However, the hole southwest of Moscow was slightly widened this week, although an unseen army stopped panzers advancing to cutoff the last retreat route of another army, thereby saving it from destruction.

Also, the river line to the southeast of Leningrad was crossed en masse, with 3 panzer corps exploiting a large hole. From these 2 holes it may be possible to strike to the east of Moscow and isolate it in the next few weeks, or drive north to cut off Leningrad from all supplies. Either way, the stage is being slowly set for the final battle for victory by west or east.

Axis/Soviet

1653/5658 Squads
522/303 AFVs
473/975 Guns
208/0 Planes
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Post by Tom1939 »

Look at Rick's last move.... Understatement? Yeah, I'm winning big:)

Rick's turn is sent to my workplace mail, so I don't seen it yet, but I'm afraid I can kiss Lenningrad goodbye. I just hope for some panzers left for me somewhere:)

He just doesn't want to confront my tank armies. I think the war would be already over if he attacked them. Of course he has a slight suspesion(?) that I want to trap some of his panzer korpses. But no victory comes without a prize.
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Post by Tom1939 »

44. july 29.
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It seems that the enemy will take Lenningrad in a few weeks. Also we had to make some front shortenings again. The Moscow front did not take a step back though. We forced to retreat one german infantry korps at the south, but it is all the succes we can report.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

223/295
0/58
216/41
53/0

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