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RE: Allies resumes the offensive!

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[font="Verdana"]Marine squadron resize[/font]
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While having the 18 plane squadrons resize to 24 doesn´t seem like a massive deal. It is! [&o] This will seriously change the USMC from a very good offensive weapon to a formidable one.

Unfortunately I´m so short on Navy/Marine planes I´m nowhere near being able to fill them all out. Ríght now I have zero Corsairs of any kind in the pools. I´ve filled out some select elite squadrons 24. The others will have to do with 18 planes for now. Gotta love being the allies with its superior production! [8|]

Erik will get a first taste of this "new" USMC very shortly!

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[font="Verdana"]30th September-1st October -44[/font]
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A few quiet turns.

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Mindanao
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No action. A few smaller convoys arrive at Cotabato. Some troops and supply are dropped off at Jolo and surrounding islands. BFs start arriving at Cotabato and Surigao.

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Burma
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I tried to bomb Eriks superstack (250.000 troops) but even at 15.000 ft it was so vicious I had to switch to other targets. Right now I´m attacking airfields and ports. I´m amazed and shocked Erik can supply his troops. I have almost drained India to supply my troops in Burma. In the last 6 months I have pumped in over 2 million supply and I´m still in the red in some bases. Right now Rangoon is in the red so offensive air OPS are halted. How the heck he can supply his superstack is beyond me. But hopefully the bombings will make it harder for him.

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DEI
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I can´t get to his CAs/BBs right now. His air ASW is costing me about 2 subs per turn. I have to approach this differently. I´ll take away his ability to LRCAP instead of striking at the ships directly. Without LRCAP he will have to pull them out anyway. I moved in 3 elite squadrons of Marines and 150 P38s. Erik has 200 Fighters placed on two bases. I´ll deal with the smallest one first with the P38s forcing him to bunch up. I´ll then strike with the Corsairs.

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Marianas
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Fleet are now in position. BFs and supply will unload tomorrow. The will be LRCAPed by about 200 Hellcats. I also tried to jump in some P47s hoping enough supply will be unloaded during the night that they can take off in the AM phase. If so Erik sweeps are toast! 125 P47s can ruin any Jap day!

I stood down all strike missions from the fleet this turn so I don´t have to lessen the CAP over the fleet to provide LRCAP. I should still have some 600 planes on CAP next turn. Its a calculated risk but Erik would have had to go at full speed to get here with the KB.

And then this. Seriously? This is so silly its beyond silliness. Is the code broken or something or did someone decide that Jap subs were such a decisive weapon against US CVs that they have a 500% bonus on CVs?! [8|]
Sub attack near Tinian at 108,95

Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 8, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CV Yggdrasil, Torpedo hits 1
BB Prince of Wales
DD Isherwood
DD De Haven II
DD Monssen II


SS I-16 launches 8 torpedoes at CV Yggdrasil
DD De Haven II fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monssen II attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

Usually this means 3 months in the yard. But this time I´m lucky and despite saying "severe flooding" Yggdrasil suffers only 7 SYS, 3 FLT, 3 ENG.

I have "only" 120 Avengers on ASW and 30 more on Night search. And 6 ASW TFs in the same hex. This is ridiculous.
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RE: Allies resumes the offensive!

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Re supply in India, you should be getting millions of points dumped in Aden in dissolving convoys by now, or very soon. Look at your queues. Stick 75 xAKs on CS convoys from Aden to Karachi and India will fatten up quickly.
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I can´t get to his CAs/BBs right now. His air ASW is costing me about 2 subs per turn. I have to approach this differently. I´ll take away his ability to LRCAP instead of striking at the ships directly. Without LRCAP he will have to pull them out anyway. I moved in 3 elite squadrons of Marines and 150 P38s. Erik has 200 Fighters placed on two bases. I´ll deal with the smallest one first with the P38s forcing him to bunch up. I´ll then strike with the Corsairs."
 
Your losing 2 Allied subs per turn in 1944 to Japan Air ASW ???  [X(]

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Re supply in India, you should be getting millions of points dumped in Aden in dissolving convoys by now, or very soon. Look at your queues. Stick 75 xAKs on CS convoys from Aden to Karachi and India will fatten up quickly.

Yep, they have been coming for quite some time. I diverted the convoys going to OZ about 3 months ago but I´m still in a slow decline. I have absolutely NO idea how Erik can sustain his troops if I´m struggling with it. [X(] Admittedly he doesn´t have a bomber force operating in the region.

ORIGINAL: Richard III
Your losing 2 Allied subs per turn in 1944 to Japan Air ASW ???  [X(]

Yep. At least right now when I have subs under his air umbrella. Normally I stopped having them there as its impossible to sustain losses. I have lost about 120 subs in this game. I would say 85% of them to ASW air. I´m all for Japan having some leeway to move outside the historical boundaries but having one of the most decisive allied weapons in the war completely neutered feels a bit...wrong.

In return I´m not too sympathetic towards my opponents objections against the effectiveness of my strategic night bombing campaign... [:'(]
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Hey guys.

Proper update coming tomorrow. I´ve intentionally held it off since I get one of those rare baby and girlfriend free days tomorrow. So I intend to sit by the computer with the blinds closed all day. Perhaps I´ll have some beer and pizza too! [;)]

After a bit of jostling I ordered the invasion to move in tomorrow. Fingers crossed!
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[font="Verdana"]2nd-4th October -44[/font]
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Again a lot of action erupts around the map. This coupled with the Saipan invasion make another dent in Japanese airpower. I´ll post a separate update on the Saipan invasion shortly.

Operation Fenrir is also a go! A disaster or a coup de grace?

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Mindanao
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I decide on the 2nd to try for Eriks fighters at Naga but this time using P38s. Results are not encouraging and I actually lose more then I shoot down. Not a good way to go about it. But shame on the quitter. On the 4th a general air offensive is launch and new more powerful sweeps go in over Naga using P47s and P51s. This achieves much better results... [;)]

Just as BBfanboy predicted Erik immediately started flying out troops from Davao. [:@] This is such a silly "feature" of the game. Its just impossible to surround and cut forces off. In a vain attempt to stop this I set 250 Fighters on LRCAP just 1 hex away. I predict 2 transports shot down and 5 lost to OPS... and no lessing on troops getting out.[8|]

I´m about to get ready and finish off Jolo. Bombers have assisted here as much as possible. I hope to get some results next turn. I have a OZ BDE ready to reinforce if needed. A OZ Combat Engineer unit (48AV) have already been dropped off on the island.

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Burma
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Supply finally arrived at Rangoon enabling air OPS again. This marks the start of Operation Fenrir. Lets start abusing the silly air transport system. Silly!

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DEI
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Erik has been keeping his SCTFs in the shallow base hex of Lomblen. No doubt packed with ASW TFs. I can´t really get to him there so I tried something different. I airdropped a crapload of mines via B29 drop and simultaneously dropped 300 mines via subs. Didn´t seem to work as no hits were heard. [:(] I also lost two more subs in the OP. Crap.

I did start eating away at his LRCAP as part of the general air offensive ordered on the 4th. We did good here taking out a chunk of his LRCAP using the USMC Corsairs. Got to love those guys! [:)] P38s go in again tomorrow but I have kind of lost faith in the P38 as an offensive weapon. But perhaps we can get equal results at least.

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Small disaster at Milne Bay
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Erik again jumped in strike planes at Rabaul. This time I had taken good care to get a good sized CAP up buuuut...when loading troops from Milne Bay I forgot to turn on "load troops only" so the TF drained all supply from the base. This of course happened the same turn Erik flew in his strike planes. They of course took off after the same TF that drained the supply. 6 AKs are lost!





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RE: Allies resumes the offensive!

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[font="Verdana"]Saipain Invasion D+1[/font]
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Here is a screen of the first day. The Tinian part of the Invasion has already landed some supply and BFs. Airstrip was actually operational the day before. 125 P47s are on high altitude CAP while the CV fleet provides low CAP.

No strikes flew neither against Tinian nor the Fleet on this day.

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RE: Allies resumes the offensive!

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[font="Verdana"]Saipain Invasion D+2[/font]
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Here is a screen of the second day. More action this turn!

During the night several small MTBs penetrate the screen at Tinian and interrupts the unloading. One MTB even gets past to the CVs... [8|] The enemy subs also claims their first victims as a Cargo TF ignores all setting and withdraws towards Manaus? WTH? [:@] Luckily no troops are onboard but two xAKs are lost.

When day breaks Erik sent off sweeps against Tinian. They got absolutely skewered on the quite impressive CAP. uncertain if enough supply would unload for a full CAP I kept the LRCAP from the CV fleet up. [&o]
Morning Air attack on Tinian , at 108,94

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes WTH? Have ground radar stopped working in the BETA?

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 31

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 110 [&o]
F6F-3 Hellcat x 70
F6F-5 Hellcat x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

There are also many Frank sweeps that doesn´t fare very well. Our first offensive mission is also flown as a Sweep/LRCAP mission is flown against Saipan. They do extremely well! [&o]
Morning Air attack on Saipan , at 108,93

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 42
N1K2-J George x 14
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 27
Ki-102b Randy x 10


Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 39
F6F-3 Hellcat x 62


Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 10 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 7 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Now the stage is set for the actual invasion. Just before I end the turn I decide to embed more BBs in the invasion TFs. This turns out to be extremely fortunate. I can´t remember who it was but thank you for reminding me about the Naval fortress on Saipan! [&o]





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RE: Allies resumes the offensive!

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[font="Verdana"]Saipain Invasion D+3[/font]
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Day of the landing!

During the night several Jap subs interact with the various TFs. As seen in the screenshot I´m relying a lot on movement as Allied ASW seems absolutely toothless when it comes to protecting CVs. Three Jap subs are almost certainly sunk during the night for the cost of a xAP unloading at Tinian.

The first wave is approaching the shores after a very ineffectual bombardment. I am extremely glad put more BBs on protecting the landing!!! [&o]
Pre-Invasion action off Saipan (108,93) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

782 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. [X(]

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Shell hits 21
BB Nevada, Shell hits 6
CL Leander, Shell hits 5
AKA Alcyon
AKA Fomalhaut
AKA Bellatrix
DE Richard M. Rowell
AKA Alhena
LCI(G)-82
LCI(G)-81
LCI(G)-80
LCI(G)-79
LCI(G)-78
LCI(G)-77
LCI(G)-76
LCI-69
LCI-68
LCI-67
LCI-66
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
APA Bowie
DE Encounter
DE Whitehurst


Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Pre-Invasion action off Saipan (108,93) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

815 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. [X(]

Allied Ships
BB California, Shell hits 5
BB Maryland, Shell hits 2
CL Richmond, Shell hits 4
CL Hobart, Shell hits 3
AK Lesuth
AK Menkar
AK Azimech
LCI(G)-468
LCI(G)-467
LCI(G)-466
LCI(G)-465
LCI(G)-464
LCI(G)-463
LCI(G)-462
LCI(G)-401
LCI(G)-398
LCI(G)-397
LCI(G)-396
LCI(G)-373
LCI(G)-372
LCI(G)-366
LCI(G)-365
LCI(G)-220
AP Gen. A.W.Greely
DE Lawrence
AP Gen. W.M.Black


Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 40 (1 destroyed, 39 disabled)
Invasion Support action off Saipan (108,93) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

386 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Shell hits 9, on fire
BB Nevada
CL Leander, Shell hits 3
AKA Bellatrix, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage
AKA Alhena, Shell hits 1, on fire
LCI(G)-82
LCI(G)-81
LCI(G)-80
LCI(G)-79
LCI(G)-78
LCI(G)-77
LCI(G)-76
LCI-69
LCI-68
LCI-67
LCI-66
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
APA Bowie
DE Encounter
DE Whitehurst


Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Dawn does not lessen the fire the least!
Invasion Support action off Saipan (108,93) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

742 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. [X(]

Allied Ships
BB California
BB Maryland, Shell hits 42, on fire
CL Hobart, Shell hits 10, on fire
AK Menkar, Shell hits 3, heavy fires

CL Richmond
LCI(G)-468
LCI(G)-467
LCI(G)-466
LCI(G)-465
LCI(G)-464
LCI(G)-463
LCI(G)-462
LCI(G)-401
LCI(G)-398
LCI(G)-397
LCI(G)-396
LCI(G)-373
LCI(G)-372
LCI(G)-366
LCI(G)-365
LCI(G)-220
AP Gen. A.W.Greely
DE Lawrence


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 79 (1 destroyed, 78 disabled)

After this it seems the opposition lessened a bit. The BBs did their job and everything unloaded in very good order! [&o] The BBs are in no danger at all with 5-15 SYS damage and some knocked out AA guns. This will of course require some time in the yard but since this was only a stop for the Fleet on the way to Pearl for Upgrades we don´t lose much time in the Combat Zone.

The automated Jap counter bombardment reveal Erik true to his habit continues to rely on small combat units without much staying power. I´m going to risk Murphy here by predicting this will be pretty short work! [:D]
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20390 troops, 308 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 769

Defending force 60407 troops, 971 guns, 1394 vehicles, Assault Value = 1885

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
9th Ind.Mixed Regiment
42nd Recon Regiment
10th Ind.Mixed Regiment
53rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
50th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Ind.Mixed Regiment

4th JAAF Base Force
31st Army
11th JAAF Base Force
4th JNAF AF Unit
32nd Air Defense AA Battalion
33rd JNAF AF Unit
22nd Ind. Engineer Regiment
13th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion
45th Field AA Battalion
Saipan Naval Fortress
55th Field AA Battalion
18th Army
5th Air Division
19th RF Gun Battalion
47th JNAF AF Unit /1


Defending units:
81st Infantry Div /8
194th Tank Battalion
4th USMC Tank Bn /3
98th Infantry Division
3rd Marine Division
34th Combat Engr Rgt /3
766th Tank Bn /3
33rd Infantry Div /6
97th Coast AA Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
3rd Eng Amph Bde
Eighth US Army
Pacific Ocean Areas
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
3rd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
198th Field Artillery Battalion
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
V US Amphib Corps
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th Eng Amph Bde

I have another USMC Division (5th) is sitting on Tinian with 48 prep. I decided not to land them yesterday. They are ready if needed. Tomorrow the first attack goes in. With the HQ bonus and over twice the raw AV I don´t think Erik will hold here very long. With a division or two things would certainly be different but Erik has not changed his ways. I don´t know if he is still stuck on looking at AV alone or if he simply don´t have the IDs to spare.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow! [&o]

The Fleet will start to retire a bit towards Wake. I think LBA can handle its own now. The BBs will remain at Tinian to soak more hits on Guam before retiring.

Some offensive sweep are ordered over Guam and Rota by CV planes to allow the LBA at Tinian to rest fatigue a bit. Some of the CVE groups will fly off their CVEs and take station on Tinian and hopefully soon Saipan.

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Nice landing on Saipan. Those CD guns there are nasty.
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Thanks Lokasenna! [:)]

Here is a screen of the opposition. While they are a bit more robust than I anticipated I doubt they have much staying power. Looks like AT guns are in short supply and they seem very light on guns. So basically I don´t think they have much firepower.

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Here are some of the involved allied units currently on Saipan. The TOE of the USMC Divisions are quite impressive! [&o]

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194th Tank - Replace leader with better Land skills.
98th Div - Replace leader with better Aggression skills.
Land and Aggression should be greater than 60, if possible. I sort by Inspiration and then look for these two factors.

ASW - Do you have enough that you could try to place one or two TF in each of the 6 hexes surrounding your CVs??
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

194th Tank - Replace leader with better Land skills.
98th Div - Replace leader with better Aggression skills.
Land and Aggression should be greater than 60, if possible. I sort by Inspiration and then look for these two factors.

ASW - Do you have enough that you could try to place one or two TF in each of the 6 hexes surrounding your CVs??

Good catch Michael! [;)] I changed the leader of the Tank BTL and ID before the actual attack! The screens are from before that. Thanks to you I´ve now have a habit of checking leaders before every attack! [&o]

Not enough ASW to go around for that I´m afraid.
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ASW - I'm planning on taking a CVE or two and train up my TBs (Avengers just in ASW skills to try to kill subs (take off the fighters after re-sizing to the max of that CVE and then do same for TBs). I've lost most of my BBs and one CV to them, not Japanese LBA or CVs. [:(] Hopefully, around 60 Avengers doing ASW work will prevent the big guys from getting hit.
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Operation Fenrir!

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I actually have a full CVE TF for ASW only. Doesn´t seem to help much though as my CVs get hit regularly anyway [:(] My feelings for how the Jap subs are able to operate and strike Allied capital ships are no news to anyone that regularly reads this AAR... [8|]

Here is a screen of my CVE TF. All squadrons are resized to 24 planes (Don´t do bigger as the CVEs can only take on 24 torps so if you make them bigger they lose the ability to drop torps all together)

There is usually two CVEs doing night search but guess what...
CVE Kwajalein, Torpedo hits 1

Now there's irony for you! [8|][8|][8|]


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[font="Verdana"]Operation Fenrir[/font]
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I´ll detail my thinking a bit more later. Right now I´m going to go vomit a bit and then pour me something REALLY strong.

Basically if this goes haywire I have given away my best Indian division and ALL the Armor and Combat Engineers I have in Burma.

I´m regretting this already. [X(]

Crap.

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But no Detection Level on them yet... What's your air cover like? It may just work...
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

But no Detection Level on them yet... What's your air cover like? It may just work...

You remember that intel I was waiting for? I have been probing his naval search for almost 2 weeks. I still havn´t figured it out. Most of the times it zero detection but then from time to time all the TFs in the area gets slammed with a 10/10. Perhaps he is struggling with supply in the bases so search doesn´t always fly? So finally I just decided to take a chance. I was pretty happy when I saw he still hadn´t spotted them last turn! [&o]
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