Rise of the Sheep! JocMeister(A) vs. Obvert(J)

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

No turn from Erik last night as he didn´t have time to finish it before it got too late. Same thing with Joseph so now I find myself without a turn to do today! The horror! [X(]

Any questions or map requests? [:D]

How's Boise doing?

Edit: Idaho, not USS

Are you asking me how the town Boise in Idaho is doing? [:D]

Yeah. You know, killin' time. [:)]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58



How's Boise doing?

Edit: Idaho, not USS

Are you asking me how the town Boise in Idaho is doing? [:D]

Yeah. You know, killin' time. [:)]

Well, Not much have happened there during the war to be honest! [:D]

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]14th-15th November -44[/font]
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Things are slowly getting tense again.

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Marianas
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Guam is finally in allied hands! [&o]

Ground combat at Guam (106,95)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42388 troops, 929 guns, 1471 vehicles, Assault Value = 1538

Defending force 22402 troops, 405 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 222

Allied adjusted assault: 875

Japanese adjusted defense: 399

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Guam !!! [&o][&o][&o]

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4703 casualties reported [&o]
Squads: 136 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 84 destroyed, 249 disabled
Engineers: 158 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 313 (258 destroyed, 55 disabled)
Vehicles lost 32 (32 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
461 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 61 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (1 destroyed, 30 disabled)

This is followed up by another attack on the 15th. The defenders are clearly doomed now.

Japanese ground losses:
3311 casualties reported
Squads: 115 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 141 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 27 disabled
Guns lost 119 (72 destroyed, 47 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

I will continue to pound until every single unit is wiped out. Tanks and arty will be lifted off Guam and Saipan tomorrow to head for Luzon and the inevitable siege of Eriks second Superstack Mk II.

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Luzon
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Armor race ahead of the infantry and reach Atimonan on the 15th.

Ground combat at Atimonan (80,79)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5715 troops, 25 guns, 836 vehicles, Assault Value = 458

Defending force 7905 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 134

Allied adjusted assault: 241

Japanese adjusted defense: 30

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Atimonan !!! [&o]

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4135 casualties reported
Squads: 69 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 143 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 132 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 26 (15 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Units retreated 7
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
CenPac Amphib Tank Brigade
192nd Tank Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
5th USMC Tank Battalion

Defending units:
30th Engineer Regiment
I/19th Naval Guard Unit
41st Guard Battalion
2nd Amphibious Bde /1
6th Base Force
26th Air Flotilla
37th Const Co
74th JAAF AF Bn

The armor will split up here and half of it will chase after the routed units while the other half turn south to secure a alternative landing site farther south from Manila.

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Thailand
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We are still maneuvering to try and stop Eriks escape. His Superstack Mk I. flipped hex today and is now only 1 hex apart from his armor. In the meantime I´m trying to secure the clear terrain which he is desperately trying to get to. I have a plan here to engage his stack in the clear. Hope it works! [:)]

Flak has not lessened so far and bombings are costly. Even at 15k. Last time the 4Es went in I suffered 250 planes damaged. [8|] And with the new BETA it will take over a week before they are repaired. Despite 4000 AS at Rangoon. In the meantime the 2Es keep up the bombings from 20k. Just to burn supply and slow his stack down.

Another sweep goes in over Eriks stack in the clear. The NZ Corsairs take a beating but we still manage to shoot down 150 Japanese planes for 38 allied. Good day again. On the 15th Erik troops and LRCAP have withdrawn. [:)]

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DEI
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I managed to hit a convoy pulling stuff of Kendari. Results are underwhelming though.

[size=1]Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 70,106, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Boston Maru
xAKL Heiwa Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Hanakawa Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires
xAKL Katsura Maru
xAKL Keizan Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAKL Yagi Maru
xAKL Sakae Maru
PB Sento Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
PB Mikitade Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Charles Ausburne
DD Callaghan
DD Erben
DD Franks
DD Healy
DD Hopewell
DD Richard P. Leary
DD Luce
DD Mullany
DD Philip
DD Norman Scott[/size]

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Thailand[/font]
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Here is a screen of the situation.

[ny59giants]

What do you have at Mergui?? Is anything (divisions and/or tanks) going cross country to cut off his forces in Thailand from retreating down to Malaya??

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

What do you have at Mergui?? Is anything (divisions and/or tanks) going cross country to cut off his forces in Thailand from retreating down to Malaya??

Mergui just have a small garrison to prevent paradrops. I have no troops currently set to block the retreat down Malaya. Erik has 2 IDs (one wrecked) at Bangkok. If he moves that way with them I might have to let them go. I have another 1200 AV moving through the jungle from Tavoy. When the arrive I finally have some reserve forces. They can easily be shifted SW to cut off any move out from Bangkok if the situation permits.

Its a very dicey situation and Erik might still get out of it if I mess up.

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]14th-15th November -44[/font]
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Mostly uneventful. Game is kind of boring right now as I´m mostly waiting for stuff to get into position or arrive at destinations.

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Marianas
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Another good attack at Guam.

Japanese ground losses:
4804 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 151 destroyed, 94 disabled
Engineers: 30 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 59 (46 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (18 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 6

Armor and arty started packing. The IDs will clean up the island.

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Mindanao
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We captured the last Island between the Sulu and Celebes sea. A place called Tawi Tawi.

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Thailand
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Erik has started moving out with something from the Tand Division stacks. He won´t make it before me so I wonder why? Fake move perhaps.

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DEI
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Artillery reached Dili and the Americal will tomorrow.

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Other news
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Erik continues with the Superstacking both in the air and on the ground. Not too surprising that causes a lot of places to be virtually empty of troops. I don´t dare to recon too much but Hong Kong is showing only 1 unit and same thing with at least two bases on Formosa. I smell a bypass coming up soon!

The entire Japanese air force is based on only two locations. Half of it is at Bangkok and the other half at Manila. It didn´t work at Rabaul and Rangoon and it won´t work this time either. I will deal with that eventually but right now there is no need so I let him stay there in peace.

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Tracker Data[/font]
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Here are some stuff I pulled from tracker!

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]Japanese perimiter October -44[/font]
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[Bullwinkle58]

Jocke:

Per our recent passes about Swedish influence in the US, this article appeared in today's local newspaper, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. I don't know if it's common knowledge there about the Scandinavian roots in the northern US, but this gives an idea how they're evolving over time. It was too long to PM, so . . .

"Uff da! Twin Cities Nordic ties fade
Article by: DAVID PETERSON , Star Tribune Updated: September 19, 2013 - 12:15 AM

Census surveys find Scandinavian, German influence strong but melding.

Viveka Olai Stenberg settled into a table in the elegant new cafe of the American Swedish Institute in south Minneapolis and gazed at the faces around her. She asked herself, “Do these people really look Swedish?”

The visiting Swede peered at them one by one and decided the answer was “maybe.”

U.S. Census surveys released on Thursday yield an equally mixed response. More than a century after the great wave of European immigration, the Twin Cities area is still tremendously more Norwegian, Swedish and German than other metro areas. But the numbers are dwindling as an elderly immigrant population passes from the scene or retires to other places.

In just five years, surveys suggest, the number of Twin Cities metro residents calling themselves German-, Norwegian- or Swedish-American — the three biggest groups, by far — has dropped by nearly 100,000. Younger people increasingly are just saying “American” as generations of intermarriage dilute ethnic identity.

Still, one is nine or 10 times as likely to come across a person identifying as Nordic here than in other metro areas, according to the American Community Survey data, which trace the slow arc of demographic change across the nation.

Tom Holman, 60, of south Minneapolis is typical. He’s “half Swedish with other things mixed in.” He’s watched as Swedishness has faded in his family, from a grandmother who didn’t even speak English until age 8, to being the only one among his siblings who speaks the language, to having nieces and nephews who frankly “don’t carry it on” at all.

After more than 100 years in which the area’s Nordic flavor has profoundly marked the culture of Minnesota, groups like the Swedish Institute or the Sons of Norway can feel a fading of personal ties while hoping that the heritage still means something.

“If the measure is head count, then, yeah, there probably is an ongoing, gradual diminution,” said Bruce Karstadt, the institute’s president and CEO and the honorary consul general for Sweden.

“Does that mean interest is diminishing? I would say not.”

His counterpart at the Sons of Norway, Eivind Heiberg, detects an upsurge because of the precise demographic moment: a time when baby boomers are nearing retirement and thinking about the past.

“All of a sudden there’s a realization that, hey, their parents are in their 70s and 80s and will not be around forever, and it’s up to me to sort of carry the torch,” he said. “There’s a need they feel, and that’s where we see more and more people reaching out.”

German ancestry is the single most pronounced ethnicity in the Twin Cities area, at 32 percent. German is also the leading ethnicity across most of the northern tier of the United States.

But a strong Scandinavian band stretching through Minnesota from western Wisconsin into North Dakota has long marked us culturally as much as the French influence in Louisiana.

On a religious map, Lutherans leap out here in the same way that Mormons do in the West.

That, in turn, has influenced a powerful Minnesota involvement in refugee resettlement that is creating equally unusual distribution patterns among recent immigrants, such as Hmong and Africans. The latest census numbers show that although Twin Citians are much likelier to be native-born Americans than people in other metro areas, they are also much likelier to have been born in Africa than residents elsewhere.

Slow erosion

The wave of Nordic immigration came in the late 19th and early 20th century. In some families, the sense of identification remains.
Chris Reitan Gerber, of Orono, said her Swedish immigrant parents met here in 1928 and never lost their accents or their sense of the old country as “home.” Her daughter and granddaughter have visited Sweden. Stenberg is her cousin, here from Sweden on a second trip to Minnesota to reconnect with family.

It’s a very different feeling being here, Stenberg said, as opposed to New York or Florida.

“People here do look more like those at home,” she said, “and they are so interested when they find out you’re Swedish. At a yoga class, or anywhere you happen to be, they light up when they hear it, and talk about their own relatives.”

Still, the census numbers speak to a gradual erosion of personal ties to the old country.

Since 2008, the share of Twin Citians identifying as German has slipped from 35.4 percent to 32.2 percent, dropping slightly each year.

In the same period, the share of Norwegians has dropped similarly, from 14.8 percent to 13.4 percent. The share of Swedes has fallen less sharply, from 9.7 percent to 9.2 percent but follows the same basic course.

Experts are quick to point out that none of these ancestries is truly going anywhere: Descendants keep multiplying. But once a person is no longer 80 percent but 20 percent, intermingled with multiple ethnicities after generations of marriage, the question of what they “are,” if anything, becomes vague.

New interest

Could the loss of something people used to take for granted wind up encouraging a reawakening of interest in those roots?

It maybe already is. “We’re seeing record participation in our youth programming,” said Laura Cederberg, spokeswoman for the Swedish Institute, over a burble of conversation from the organization’s newly expanded building, with its cafe, gift shop and other facilities created by architects who visited Sweden to drink in contemporary Nordic design.

At the Sons of Norway, Heiberg admires how the institute has lured in Generation Ikea, and he hopes to do the same using vehicles such as the website NorwayConnects.

In chapters all across North America, he said, “we are putting on a variety of programs, from how to create traditional Norwegian art — woodcarving and so on — to programs and resources on genealogy. It’s a struggle for all membership groups these days. Younger people are less likely to turn up at a building once a week, but we’re optimistic. It’s important to keep the connection alive.”

[paullus99]

Looks like maybe a jump to Formosa wouldn't be a bad idea......anything to prevent you from getting too bogged down...the Bonins are a little too obvious, but Formosa has definite possibilities.

[JocMeister]

Bullwinkle,

Great read! Thanks for sharing. [:)]

Yes, we are aware here in Sweden about the swedish immigrants in the US. One of our most famous writers called Vilhelm Moberg have written four books in a serie called "Utvandrarna" (The Emigrants). The books are quite famous (even abroad). Its one of the great Swedish classics so its part of our education to read them. [:)]

ORIGINAL: paullus99

Looks like maybe a jump to Formosa wouldn't be a bad idea......anything to prevent you from getting too bogged down...the Bonins are a little too obvious, but Formosa has definite possibilities.

My thinking exactly. [:)] I still havn´t made up my mind though. But I need to very soon. Right now its pretty much down to either Formosa or Hong Kong. Decisions...decisions!

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]17th November -44[/font]
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Only one turn today as I was busy during the day. Game is incredibly boring right now. I´m just waiting for stuff. I basically just press "end turn" as everything is set and done.

Only two things to report today.

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Aviation support
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Well, to sum it up. I´m out of it. Removing the 250 AS cap on AS on level 8 and 9 bases most probably caused this. The problem for me now is that I need more level 8 and 9 bases for the sole purpose of doubling AS. That will take quite some time and I´m not sure how much it will help.

The new B29s arriving tomorrow won´t help with this I´m afraid. I simply have nowhere to put them besides the WC. Every little unit with some AS that can be bought out have been. But I still lack probably around 500 AS for the Marianas. The problem there is that only Guam can be built up to level 8 and benefit from the doubled AS.

I will also have to look at changing some P38 squadrons to something else.

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Thailand
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Erik must have put every AA gun he has with his superstack. Even bombing from 20k (!) I suffer about 10 4E lost per day to flak. Its not the actual losses that is the problem but all the damaged planes!

Here is a typical bombing. Remember that I´m not doing this to cause casualties. Just to slow the stack down and cause it to burn supplies with the AA fire.

Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,58 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 11
Liberator GR.VI x 9
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 71
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 5 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24J Liberator: 26 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 7 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

With the BETA it takes forever to repair the planes. In this raid alone my number of "not ready" 4Es went from 12 to 75. [X(] To repair all those 75 I will probably need a week. Hard to maintain pressure on his stack right now. For some reason the 2Es doesn´t seem to suffer as badly though. Alway something.

Here is a screen of the situation.

[JocMeister]

[font="Verdana"]18th-19th November -44[/font]
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Another snoozefest.

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Thailand
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Eriks AA left his divisions behind. I will of course try to take advantage of that but I have 280 4Es stuck repairing damage after the last raid. So I don´t know how much damage I can cause before his divisions shift hex.

I sweep the bases around Bangkok to knock down some leaky CAP. About 8:1 today with almost 100 Jap fighters shot down. No aces lost. 3 New gained.

Erik started moving his tank divisions out from the hex. Its now a race to see whoever switches to the next hex first. If I do I have close off the hex from that direction. If he does I´m in big problem. I should win the race though. I have infantry moving at 7-8 miles per turn while Eriks armor should only move at 4. And I bomb his stack from the air too. In two turns I have some troops arriving in the hex that can start to bombard from the ground too. That should eat a lot of supply. Even Eriks superstack will not do well with too little supply.

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Luzon
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I hit some bases around Manilla with sweeps getting some leaky CAP here as well. 8 new aces and a triple ace! 50:4 in the air.

I catch up with the troops expelled from Atimonan and smack them around again.

Ground combat at Lucena (79,79)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3855 troops, 19 guns, 558 vehicles, Assault Value = 303

Defending force 3316 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied adjusted assault: 398

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 132 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Lucena !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2343 casualties reported
Squads: 53 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 192 destroyed, 54 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4
Units destroyed 1

Busy weekend coming up as I have to finish up the bedroom no later then Sunday. Might not get many turns done.

[House Stark]

Don't many of the base forces resize their TOE in 1945, giving more aviation support for the USAAF base forces naval support for the USN base forces? Or are the ones that arrive in 1945 just bigger?

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: House Stark

Don't many of the base forces resize their TOE in 1945, giving more aviation support for the USAAF base forces naval support for the USN base forces? Or are the ones that arrive in 1945 just bigger?

I have no idea! [:)]

Any way to check this?

[witpqs]

On the ground unit display (either at a base or in a hex or using the 'g' hot key to show all ground units) click on 'show soft' in the upper right-hand corner (provided you are using a Beta). The last or second to last column is how many days until that unit's TOE upgrades. Blank means no upgrade, '0' means ready to do so now when the requirements are met).

Then look at one of the units that upgrades. Click on the button for 'show TOE'. You should see the label above the list of devices turn yellow. Click on it to show what the TOE will be like after the next TOE upgrade.

[JocMeister]

Thanks witpqs! I´ll check it out! [:)]

EDIT: All are current. Anyway to check future TOE upgrades? Editor?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Thanks witpqs! I´ll check it out! [:)]

EDIT: All are current. Anyway to check future TOE upgrades? Editor?

Re-read the post! [:D] the second paragraph describes how to to look at the future TOE of a specific unit.

[JocMeister]

Ah, yes I´m an idiot! [:D] Thanks it worked! [&o]

Sadly no more upgrades for the USAAF BFs. The USN ones get more naval support. But no extra AS. [:(]