A question for you Royal Navy types (I know you are out there)

[Don Bowen]

Thanks all for your help.

I believe I will put these six ships into my mod with arrivals in late 1946 through mid-1947. Ships to arrive in a damaged state in the UK (about 33% systems and 10% major engine).

If the war does last that long, they will be needed.

[Dixie]

How about putting these in? [:D]

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

How about putting these in? [:D]

Hey, that's good art. I'll have to put them in so I can use it.

Got anything on USN CVNs?? Have to figure out how to represent the nuclear power though, the endurance field is too small!

[wdolson]

Going to do the Final Countdown scenario with the Nimitz at Pearl Harbor?

Bill

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: Dixie

How about putting these in? [:D]

Hey, that's good art. I'll have to put them in so I can use it.

Got anything on USN CVNs?? Have to figure out how to represent the nuclear power though, the endurance field is too small!

Not a lot really, I only made Hermes because I was bored and I had the basic Centaur to modify it from. I'm not sure how much stuff the USN had in development at the end of WW2 and immediate post war period, but the RN/FAA had quite a lot of stuff that would have/did fly from carriers prior to the jets coming aboard. Which is why I've got Sea Furies, Griffon Seafires, Firebrands, Sea Mosquitos, Sea Hornets, Seafangs and Firefly NFs in BPF markings. Plus the RN had some new carriers under construction.

Compared to the RN, I know little about the USN. Apart from the Midways were any 'new' CV types being built in the US?

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

Going to do the Final Countdown scenario with the Nimitz at Pearl Harbor?

Bill

They aren't great, but they only took 10 minutes to knock up by using some 'ready made' profiles. The markings are a best match from what's easily available...

[oldman45]

WoW. 10 minutes Dixie? It took me 10 minutes to find my glasses so I could look at your jets. Amazing stuff pal.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

Hey, that's good art. I'll have to put them in so I can use it.

Got anything on USN CVNs?? Have to figure out how to represent the nuclear power though, the endurance field is too small!

Not a lot really, I only made Hermes because I was bored and I had the basic Centaur to modify it from. I'm not sure how much stuff the USN had in development at the end of WW2 and immediate post war period, but the RN/FAA had quite a lot of stuff that would have/did fly from carriers prior to the jets coming aboard. Which is why I've got Sea Furies, Griffon Seafires, Firebrands, Sea Mosquitos, Sea Hornets, Seafangs and Firefly NFs in BPF markings. Plus the RN had some new carriers under construction.

Compared to the RN, I know little about the USN. Apart from the Midways were any 'new' CV types being built in the US?

OK, I admit that I was not serious. I know I'm out on a limb with the Audacious and Centaur classes and I figured you were pulling my leg a bit with the modern stuff.

But seriously, folks...

No, the USN did not have anything behind the Midways. Design work was in progress for the next class but it was still being debated when the war ended. CVB X, as it was known, continued under design until about the end of the 1940s and then was laid down (as USS United States) but quickly cancelled. I think it only spent about a week on the stocks.

One Midway was cancelled in early 1943 for resource reasons and two more when the 1945 program was shot down. No American carrier was ordered under the 1944 or 1945 programs except for some additional escort carriers.

If you think I'm stretching for the Audacious/Centaur classes, you should see what I've worked up for their airgroups!!!!

[Dixie]

These were my late war FAA airgroup types. There's a lot of room for what-if type and the Royal Navy, aircraft that were in development and ships that were cancelled or delayed. I did have art for quite a bit of the RN in the Korean War/early Cold War somewhere, most of it's gone now though.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

These were my late war FAA airgroup types. There's a lot of room for what-if type and the Royal Navy, aircraft that were in development and ships that were cancelled or delayed. I did have art for quite a bit of the RN in the Korean War/early Cold War somewhere, most of it's gone now though.

I have data on the US-style Carrier Air Groups that were being formed for the Royal Navy Pacific Fleet. About 19 of them specified, some with intended ships and others just classes. I "assumed" the series would continue and made up more if I needed them - starting with the next higher number.

As for squadrons, I "extended" the squadron number series in use at the end of the war:
170x for amphibious Bomber-Recon (Sea Otters)
177x for 2-seat fighters (Firefly)
179x for Night Fighters (Firefly NF)
18xx for single seat fighters (mostly US Types)
8xx for early squadrons of most types, with several sub ranges.

In the end, I literally "assumed" that squadrons in the 8xx range that were disbanded in Europe late-war would be reformed when needed in the Pacific.

Impossible to replicate the movement of squadrons from carrier to carrier that happened in real life.

Anyway, I "assigned" CAGs to all CV and CVL (except Hermes I) and "found" squadrons to fill them out.

Don

P.S. What's that aircraft in the upper left?

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: Dixie

These were my late war FAA airgroup types. There's a lot of room for what-if type and the Royal Navy, aircraft that were in development and ships that were cancelled or delayed. I did have art for quite a bit of the RN in the Korean War/early Cold War somewhere, most of it's gone now though.

I have data on the US-style Carrier Air Groups that were being formed for the Royal Navy Pacific Fleet. About 19 of them specified, some with intended ships and others just classes. I "assumed" the series would continue and made up more if I needed them - starting with the next higher number.

As for squadrons, I "extended" the squadron number series in use at the end of the war:
170x for amphibious Bomber-Recon (Sea Otters)
177x for 2-seat fighters (Firefly)
179x for Night Fighters (Firefly NF)
18xx for single seat fighters (mostly US Types)
8xx for early squadrons of most types, with several sub ranges.

In the end, I literally "assumed" that squadrons in the 8xx range that were disbanded in Europe late-war would be reformed when needed in the Pacific.

Impossible to replicate the movement of squadrons from carrier to carrier that happened in real life.

Anyway, I "assigned" CAGs to all CV and CVL (except Hermes I) and "found" squadrons to fill them out.

Don

P.S. What's that aircraft in the upper left?

Sounds like the info I've got. All I'll add is that the Fleet Air Arm Handbook has the additional single seat fighter squadrons in the 1830-1899 range. Dive bombers would have made the 1810-1829 squadrons. 1700-1749 were intended to be TBR squadrons, there's a gap in the intended numbering at 1750-1769 with no types assigned.

The top left is a Sea Mosquito, which is basically what it says on the tin. Folding wings, stronger landing gear and four blade props were added to the 'standard' Mosquito.

[oldman45]

Dixie was faster than me. [;)]

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: Dixie

Sounds like the info I've got. All I'll add is that the Fleet Air Arm Handbook has the additional single seat fighter squadrons in the 1830-1899 range. Dive bombers would have made the 1810-1829 squadrons. 1700-1749 were intended to be TBR squadrons, there's a gap in the intended numbering at 1750-1769 with no types assigned.

The top left is a Sea Mosquito, which is basically what it says on the tin. Folding wings, stronger landing gear and four blade props were added to the 'standard' Mosquito.

I don't have any data at all on the gap between 1703 and 1700. Also, not aware of any pure dive bomber squadrons that made it to the Pacific Fleet (or were intended to). SB2C didn't make the cut for the Royal Navy.
Appreciate anything you got on either...

[wdolson]

Looks like a De Havilland Sea Hornet. It was an evolution of the Mosquito.

Bill