Some of the naval interdictions are flying over the ports, some of them get engaged by 1k plus flak guns. They do not seem to have much effect. but those naval strikes are flying at 22k so too high for most of the allied guns to do anything to them.ORIGINAL: LiquidSky
I might try something different when I hit Italy...put those copious amounts of AA support units into my invasion divisions. Maybe they can attrit his airforce as they fly over on there way to the water hexes behind me.
2x4 High
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There is one hex where the Germans fly three missions for 2, 4 and 8ish interdiction points.ORIGINAL: Helpless
a) making it tougher to get to 99 for both sides
There are strong modifiers that prevent naval values to go up too high. It could be that it stops working when initial strikes are way too heavy.
I flew one strike for 1250+ interdiction points. The hex itself is 99/99. This hex also has a single hex AS mission with one full group of p47.
Not one interception. And no apparent reduction in the German interdiction value for the hex. The save might be up still on the server.
In this server game .11 the Germans don't seem to have overwhelming amounts of air, it just seems to be impossible to knock the numbers back the way you say it can be.
I could be missing a setting or something though, or have something wrong.
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The save might be up still on the server.
Is this a new save before execution?
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So I am thinking now that Air Superiority is either worthless as a defensive tool, or its effects are not displayed for the player to see and be able to evaluate.
Possibly for naval interdiction the enemy interdiction numbers are mitigated?

Possibly for naval interdiction the enemy interdiction numbers are mitigated?

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I don't know how far back the server holds them, It is one or two turns back IIRC.ORIGINAL: Helpless
The save might be up still on the server.
Is this a new save before execution?
The screenshots that I am posting now are from the current allied turn before air phase execution.
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Same amount of planes much less effect


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next day, again much less effect than day one.


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6th day of air phase. Again much less interdiction value than day 1


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Last day of air phase.
Again low interdict value compared to day one, but consistent with the number of planes and the interdict values of days 2 through 6.
So what made day 1 special? Possibly great die roll?

Again low interdict value compared to day one, but consistent with the number of planes and the interdict values of days 2 through 6.
So what made day 1 special? Possibly great die roll?

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Some more great numbers on day 1.
120 p47's on AS here. Plus their flight path is through another AS with 70 p47.
No interceptions. Flak gets some work done on these guys that are in range.

120 p47's on AS here. Plus their flight path is through another AS with 70 p47.
No interceptions. Flak gets some work done on these guys that are in range.

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Next day in the same hex. Why such a big drop off in interdict value compared to day one?


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Another monster day 1 strike
Flying at 22k so most of the Flak is out of range.
Those 50kg bombs are badass.

Flying at 22k so most of the Flak is out of range.
Those 50kg bombs are badass.

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Day 6 raid, intercepted over land.
Flak chewed on the raid a little.
120 p47 on AS for this hex

Flak chewed on the raid a little.
120 p47 on AS for this hex

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One of the few patrol interceptions my fighters make.
I really wish they would try to engage enemy strikes over water.

I really wish they would try to engage enemy strikes over water.

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Some interesting interception results, note that it is 52nd fighter group on Air Superiority making these intercepts.


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Hrmm I wish my guys would do what I tell them to do . . .


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Here is a day one allied raid.
Pretty big number.
Germans get an intercept off on the return leg of the run. They must have pretty good water wings, pilots not afraid to play in sea hexes.

Pretty big number.
Germans get an intercept off on the return leg of the run. They must have pretty good water wings, pilots not afraid to play in sea hexes.

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Day 2 allied raid.
Respectable number compared to Luftwaffe day 2's
Not sure if there is Air Superiority up from the German side though

Respectable number compared to Luftwaffe day 2's
Not sure if there is Air Superiority up from the German side though

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RE: 2x4 High
Thanks for doing all the work trying to sort this out Baelfiin! [&o]
Something sure looks odd to say the least! Especially those P47 on AS appearing over land well outside the boundaries of the AD. [X(]
Hopefully Helpless can fix it. [:)]
Something sure looks odd to say the least! Especially those P47 on AS appearing over land well outside the boundaries of the AD. [X(]
Hopefully Helpless can fix it. [:)]

RE: 2x4 High
Day one Luftwaffe off the eastern coast in the Adriatic.
Another good number for the resources invested.
Really weird how the same amount of planes on any day besides day one put up a much lower number.

Another good number for the resources invested.
Really weird how the same amount of planes on any day besides day one put up a much lower number.

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