NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs 1EyedJack & Rysyonok (J) - BTS

[ny59giants]

quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I think it would be nice to see a PBEM game pick up a second player for a side sometime about late 42 to early 43 with each playing the same opponent. I would want to see how two different players take their current position to conclusion without knowing what that other player was doing. In your game Lowpe, you had another Japanese player start when you did vs same Allied player and see what happened.

You mean like "splitting" a game? Say 2 players start and play up to say 1/43 and then a second pair of players take up the same save and both pairs play from the same game but parallel of each other?

Not quite Jocke. I would like to see a third player come in when you mentioned. So one side would have two separate players taking on another player. Just want to see how players would do things differently, especially for us in the cheap seats watching the game in multiple AARs. It would be hard for those posting in the AARs not to mention things going on in the other AAR, but I would love to watch it happen. [:)]

[Lowpe]

That would be really different. And interesting. Especially if the speed of the game turnarounds was off which might give an interesting twist for the Allies or an outright advantage for them.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I think it would be nice to see a PBEM game pick up a second player for a side sometime about late 42 to early 43 with each playing the same opponent. I would want to see how two different players take their current position to conclusion without knowing what that other player was doing. In your game Lowpe, you had another Japanese player start when you did vs same Allied player and see what happened.

You mean like "splitting" a game? Say 2 players start and play up to say 1/43 and then a second pair of players take up the same save and both pairs play from the same game but parallel of each other?

Not quite Jocke. I would like to see a third player come in when you mentioned. So one side would have two separate players taking on another player. Just want to see how players would do things differently, especially for us in the cheap seats watching the game in multiple AARs. It would be hard for those posting in the AARs not to mention things going on in the other AAR, but I would love to watch it happen. [:)]

Ah, I see. So for example the Jap player would play two different allied players from the same save? The original allied player and then a second one who jumped in and started playing a parallel game?

That would be pretty cool. [:)]

[ny59giants]

Exactly!! Rather than be an "Armchair Admiral" somebody jumps in and sees if their execution of the war is better than the original player from say 1 Jan 43.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Exactly!! Rather than be an "Armchair Admiral" somebody jumps in and sees if their execution of the war is better than the original player from say 1 Jan 43.

That would be cool. But very taxing on the player having two opponent. Doing more then one turn per day would be pretty impossible. [:)]

I think it would be pretty cool to see a completely parallel game as well (as what I first thought you meant). That shouldn´t be to hard to set up either. Just need an allied and Jap player and another "couple" willing to share their save.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I hope it was only a one time thing, but when loading the replay and then turn, i got this message which I've never seen before - "Link/Zone Data Differs - Continue." If not, I'll seek clarification in Tech Support section.

My guess is that it's telling you that something in your data set is different from the data set of the person who last saved the game (your opponent). I've seen similar messages for pwhex data (now a set of three files), but it said something like "pwhex data". You guys can check by doing this:
- Open a Command Prompt window (basically that's like the DOS prompt).
- Using the "cd" (i.e. change directory) command, navigate to the main AE folder for the installation you are using (some people have multiple installations to cover different PBMs).
- Type "dir > playername.txt", substituting whatever you want for 'playername'.

That will make a plain text file called playername.txt with the directory listing. You can all do this and email them to each other, and check for differences. If there was a message about scenario data then you could do the same thing after navigating to the SCEN sub-folder (sub-directory).

BTW I just tested those instructions to make sure they work.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I hope it was only a one time thing, but when loading the replay and then turn, i got this message which I've never seen before - "Link/Zone Data Differs - Continue." If not, I'll seek clarification in Tech Support section.

My guess is that it's telling you that something in your data set is different from the data set of the person who last saved the game (your opponent). I've seen similar messages for pwhex data (now a set of three files), but it said something like "pwhex data". You guys can check by doing this:
- Open a Command Prompt window (basically that's like the DOS prompt).
- Using the "cd" (i.e. change directory) command, navigate to the main AE folder for the installation you are using (some people have multiple installations to cover different PBMs).
- Type "dir > playername.txt", substituting whatever you want for 'playername'.

That will make a plain text file called playername.txt with the directory listing. You can all do this and email them to each other, and check for differences. If there was a message about scenario data then you could do the same thing after navigating to the SCEN sub-folder (sub-directory).

BTW I just tested those instructions to make sure they work.

Woohoo! Someone who knows how to navigate in DOS! You are dating yourself (and me)! [:D]
Can this not be done using Windows Explorer to navigate to the game directory, and then opening up a "notebook" text editor window?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I hope it was only a one time thing, but when loading the replay and then turn, i got this message which I've never seen before - "Link/Zone Data Differs - Continue." If not, I'll seek clarification in Tech Support section.

My guess is that it's telling you that something in your data set is different from the data set of the person who last saved the game (your opponent). I've seen similar messages for pwhex data (now a set of three files), but it said something like "pwhex data". You guys can check by doing this:
- Open a Command Prompt window (basically that's like the DOS prompt).
- Using the "cd" (i.e. change directory) command, navigate to the main AE folder for the installation you are using (some people have multiple installations to cover different PBMs).
- Type "dir > playername.txt", substituting whatever you want for 'playername'.

That will make a plain text file called playername.txt with the directory listing. You can all do this and email them to each other, and check for differences. If there was a message about scenario data then you could do the same thing after navigating to the SCEN sub-folder (sub-directory).

BTW I just tested those instructions to make sure they work.

Woohoo! Someone who knows how to navigate in DOS! You are dating yourself (and me)! [:D]
Can this not be done using Windows Explorer to navigate to the game directory, and then opening up a "notebook" text editor window?

Not that I know of. The trick is the ">" in the right place tells the command interpreter "take the output of the command (in this case 'dir') and write to the file whose name comes next". When you have Windows Explorer open to the right place, you can certainly see the right information, but getting it into a file is the trick. AFAIK if you select a bunch of file names and 'copy', it wants to copy the actual files, not the display that you are looking at.

And is isn't really DOS, it's Windows command shell (maybe not the official title), but I figured that wording would get the point across better. [:D]

[JocMeister]

Hah, Even I know how to use DOS. Remember doing my own BAT files for each game I had so I would get the most performance out of it! [:D]

[ny59giants]

If you're near Charlotte, NC then try this!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_em ... nPbRTXRgXQ

[ny59giants]

Date: '42 Apr 18 & 19
Back to our regularly scheduled programming. [8D]

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:

CVs:
KB: MIA
"Death Star" (DS): At Pearl for 4/42 upgrades

Subs:
I-22 is found to NW of Karachi 'trying' to get to my TKs without success. [:(]

India/Burma: [>:] [>:]

China: [>:]
Changsha -
18th - A total of 42 Oscars sweep the empty skies
19th - Losses for day are 41 J vs 10 A

Morning Air attack on Changsha , at 82,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
34th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 24
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Wuchow -

Philippines:
Manila - 42 Nates escort in almost 50 bombers (Sally)
Zamboanga -

Borneo:
Pontianak -
Balikpapan -

Sumatra:
Padang - 42 Oscars with 28 Nells, 39 Lily, and 41 Sally hit AF

Java:
Batavia - 21 Oscars escort in over 60 bombers (Lily & Sally); ground bb both days

Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 30495 troops, 394 guns, 116 vehicles, Assault Value = 877

Defending force 33591 troops, 319 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 744

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Division
2nd Division
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
I Landstorm Cdo
6th Cav Sqdn
1st KNIL Regiment
Lijfwacht Cav Sqdn
4th Cav Sqdn
6th KNIL Regiment
I Marechausse Cdo
II Marechausse Cdo
IV Landstorm Cdo
1st Cav Regiment
Groep Zud
Mobiele Battalion
2nd KNIL Regiment
Roodenburg Cdo
4th KNIL Regiment
Marinier Battalion
VkA-2 Sup Afd
ML-KNIL
Batavia Defenses
HQ I KNIL Division
ABDA
KNI Zeemacht
A-I-Ld AA Battalion
VkA-3 Sup Afd
Batavia KM Base Force
KNI Leger
A-III-Ld AA Battalion
Andir ML Base Force
HQ II KNIL Division
VkA-4 Sup Afd

Almost all of my troops now have over 50 experience in an urban hex with only size 2 forts.

Semarang -
Soerakarta - empty base falls to 7th Tank Rgt

SRA:

New Guinea/Solomons:
Gasmata - 33 Nells hit the troops
Terapo -

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Adak -

Australia:

Engineers:
Cairns AF4; Socotra F3; Kodiak P5; Calcutta AF6; Chitttagong AF5; Karachi P7;

Intel: Gds Mixed Bde still prepping for Luganville

Notes/Plans:
Pearl - I'm now down to 91 ships here being repaired as part of upgrades that include 3 old BBS still repairing from Pearl Harbor trike.

Adjusting to two new players. More on this as turns continue to flow.

[ny59giants]

Date: '42 Apr 20 & 21
Dutch PT Boats caught without fuel. [X(]

Key: TT = Torpedo; bb = ground bombardment; c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits; AV = Assault Value; DC = Depth Charged; (*) = destroyed aircraft; If odds are bold, they are the Allies; BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons); FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American

Landings:

CVs:
KB: MIA
"Death Star" (DS): At Pearl for 4/42 upgrades

Subs:
I-2 is found to be 1 East of Cold Bay as supplies and AA are on transports bound for Dora Harbor.

Sub attack near Kendari at 70,106

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuka, Torpedo hits 2 [:D]
CA Hirado
DD Nowaki
DD Michishio
DD Asashio
DD Tanikaze

Allied Ships
SS KIX

India/Burma: [>:] [>:]

China:
Changsha -
20th - A total of 40 Oscars sweep the now empty skies. I pulled out both air groups for rest & repairs.
21st - 27 Oscars sweep while 29 Oscars are on LRCAP; 10 Oscars sweep; 12 Oscars with 16 Sally barely hit the AF through the heavy rain;
Wuchow -

Philippines:
Manila - 42 Nates escort in almost 60 bombers (Sally)
Zamboanga -

Borneo:
Pontianak -
Balikpapan -

Sumatra:
Padang - 42 Oscars with 33 Nells and 47 Lily hit AF

Java:
Batavia - 21 Oscars escort in over 60 bombers (Sally); ground attacks both days
Semarang -
20th - 6 DMS are pulled off mine sweeping duty to sink 2 of 9 PT Boats that came from Soerabaja. The surviving 7 don't get close enough to transports to launch. 15 bombers are unable to hit any transports.
21st -

Day Time Surface Combat, near Tjepoe at 55,102, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
APD Tachikaze
APD Shimakaze
APD Nadakaze

Allied Ships
TM-4, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-6, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-7, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-10, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-11, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-12, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-13, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
TM-14, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

This what happens when your PTs run out of fuel. [:(]

Soerakarta - 24 Dutch fighters with 40 bombers are UNABLE to hit the tank rgt there. [:@]

SRA:

New Guinea/Solomons:
Gasmata -
Terapo -

Central Pacific:

South Pacific:

North Pacific:
Adak -

Australia:

Engineers:
Colombo AF6; Dunedin AF4; Noumea F4; Comilla AF4; Midway F4; Port Hedland AF2; Nelson NZ AF3;

Intel: 21/B ID prepping for Darwin; 18th ID prepping for Batavia;

Notes/Plans:
Pearl - I'm now down to 89 ships here being repaired as part of upgrades that include 3 old BBS still repairing from Pearl Harbor trike.

[ny59giants]

Besides being a week or more behind on my update, my tower failed to power up Easter morning. [:(] Thus, we are hold until I can get it fixed (dropping it of today). I turned it off like I almost always do at night and now nothing. [:@]

[Lowpe]

Replace the cpu/clock battery, if you can before dropping it off.

[ny59giants]

Tower is now at "Computer Pros" in town. The guy says the power supply often go or the capacitors on the mother board. Since I spent 12 plus years as electronics technician, I think its the power supply. Hopefully, the bill is around $100.

This morning, I fired up my long dormant laptop. I knew its been a while since I used it, but not this long....Nov 2012! [X(] Its doing Windows updates....118 of them now. [:D] I'm in office doing paperwork I usually do at home. Next, is to figure out how to get Norton Anti-Virus to update. I use it on tower and laptop, but need to find out how to reactivate the one on laptop.

Meanwhile, for those of you living in California...we have rain and more rain here in NE Tenn today.

[obvert]

Good luck getting back up and running. Frustrating.

I've got a new laptop to use but still haven't taken the time to get up to speed on Windows 8, and don't like what I see so it's hard to start in on it. Then getting the game going and make sure that works. Might just downgrade to Win 7 and go with what I know.

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: obvert

Good luck getting back up and running. Frustrating.

I've got a new laptop to use but still haven't taken the time to get up to speed on Windows 8, and don't like what I see so it's hard to start in on it. Then getting the game going and make sure that works. Might just downgrade to Win 7 and go with what I know.

I picked up a WIN 8.1 laptop a few months ago. Hate the OS, but managed to get AE to run fine without speed issues.

Then one day it downloaded an automatic update that errored out in the install and caused 90% of the keys on the board to no longer register keystrokes.

After 2+ hours in chat with technical support and no joy I decided to mothball it until they release Win 10.

[ny59giants]

My laptop has Windows 7, so I hope I'm OK. I'll be calling the repair shop around lunch to check on status of repairs.

[BBfanboy]

I am running Win 7 on my tower and the game has no problems running on it - unless it is an operator-induced problem!
I do need to quit the game occasionally and restart it to keep the speed up, but I think that is in the nature of a database type program that stores all the changes in memory until you exit the program, even if you have been saving the game regularly.

[ny59giants]

New power supply for tower arrived a day early. [:)] Hope to have a turn out tonight or tomorrow morning.