HMS Hood

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:36 pm

There were lots of Generals who behaved that way, on both sides. You have to remember, many had no military experience, they were just politicians or had friends in high places. There wasn't a very big professional army when the war started.

Zorch · Post by **Zorch** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:54 pm

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Also see http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... marck-1941
and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... under.html

For discussion of HMS Hood (not CSA Hood), please go to tm.asp?m=3911992
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Yaab · Post by **Yaab** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Wasn't CA Atlanta salvaged in 1866 by AR Hunley?

TSCofield · Post by **TSCofield** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:37 pm

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

There were lots of Generals who behaved that way, on both sides. You have to remember, many had no military experience, they were just politicians or had friends in high places. There wasn't a very big professional army when the war started.

Your right there were a lot of political generals on both sides of the war but Hood wasn't a political appointee. He was a graduate of West Point and a company grade officer in the US Army before he resigned his commission and joined the Confederate Army.

His problem was that he rose through the ranks far too quickly. He was brilliant at the tactical level as long as he remained at the Brigade or Divisional level but he had no real experience at the higher level command levels, never served as a staff officer and struggled once he was promoted to the Corps and higher level. His aggressive style wasn't much different than Sherman or Grants but he never figured out how to work with people as a superior officer. If he had been allowed to develop as an officer, like Robert Lee he might have been a superior leader. But he was certainly a case study of officers that were promoted too fast to meet demand.

wdolson · Post by **wdolson** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:09 pm

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Here's the volcano, it's a beauty too.

It looks a bit smaller from here. The trees have grown up so you can't see da' Hood from the house anymore, but there are many spots in the neighborhood it's visible.

Bill

dr.hal · Post by **dr.hal** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:13 pm

I was the most attractive if flawed steam powered warship ever built!

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:01 pm

ORIGINAL: SimHq Tom Cofield

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

There were lots of Generals who behaved that way, on both sides. You have to remember, many had no military experience, they were just politicians or had friends in high places. There wasn't a very big professional army when the war started.

Your right there were a lot of political generals on both sides of the war but Hood wasn't a political appointee. He was a graduate of West Point and a company grade officer in the US Army before he resigned his commission and joined the Confederate Army.

His problem was that he rose through the ranks far too quickly. He was brilliant at the tactical level as long as he remained at the Brigade or Divisional level but he had no real experience at the higher level command levels, never served as a staff officer and struggled once he was promoted to the Corps and higher level. His aggressive style wasn't much different than Sherman or Grants but he never figured out how to work with people as a superior officer. If he had been allowed to develop as an officer, like Robert Lee he might have been a superior leader. But he was certainly a case study of officers that were promoted too fast to meet demand.

No argument. Another big problem he had was Jeff Davis who got frustrated with competent officers who couldn't win the war.

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:03 pm

ORIGINAL: wdolson

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Here's the volcano, it's a beauty too.

It looks a bit smaller from here. The trees have grown up so you can't see da' Hood from the house anymore, but there are many spots in the neighborhood it's visible.

Bill

I've often thought about retiring to Bend.

dcpollay · Post by **dcpollay** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:01 pm

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I was the most attractive if flawed steam powered warship ever built!

Someone has a mighty high opinion of himself! [:D]

wdolson · Post by **wdolson** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:52 pm

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Here's the volcano, it's a beauty too.

It looks a bit smaller from here. The trees have grown up so you can't see da' Hood from the house anymore, but there are many spots in the neighborhood it's visible.

Bill

ORIGINAL: wdolson
I've often thought about retiring to Bend.

Though I don't think you can see Mt Hood from there

JeffroK · Post by **JeffroK** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:22 am

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Only 3 survived - 1,415 didn't.
http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001ex ... ebris1.htm

Whats the link between this and the PTO?

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:27 am

ORIGINAL: JeffK

ORIGINAL: Zorch

Only 3 survived - 1,415 didn't.
http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001ex ... ebris1.htm
Whats the link between this and the PTO?

warspite1

Why not ask the OP? Why are you asking Zorch? Why isn't the question directed at those who have taken this in a US Civil War direction - what has that got to do with PTO? And for that matter, what's the link between the recently started Gallipoli threads and the PTO?

Most of all, who cares? We've had this nonsense recently in the Sealion thread and Bill had to slap down a couple of self-important (and downright hypocritical) people who thought it was for them to decide what could and couldn't be posted (while being free to post what they wanted to - whether on topic or not).

So long as no one is breaking forum rules - what's the big deal? If a thread is started - whether on or off topic - and no one is interested, it will soon die as no one will respond and no one will view. Most, if not all, people here know what is of interest to others and post accordingly.

This thread started about HMS Hood and then pretty quickly it veered off onto another path - a path that was clearly of more interest to people here. So where's the harm?

JeffroK · Post by **JeffroK** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:57 am

Sorry, there is a direct link between the comment I copied and the PTO, looking for an answer rather than an arguement.

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:19 am

ORIGINAL: wdolson

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Here's the volcano, it's a beauty too.

It looks a bit smaller from here. The trees have grown up so you can't see da' Hood from the house anymore, but there are many spots in the neighborhood it's visible.

Bill

ORIGINAL: wdolson
I've often thought about retiring to Bend.

Though I don't think you can see Mt Hood from there

Not a very long drive, though. And the desert there just fascinates me.

geofflambert · Post by **geofflambert** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:05 pm

Here's Paul Allen again. Apparently he's building his own fleet to take over the world.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/asia/paul ... index.html

JeffroK · Post by **JeffroK** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:41 pm

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ORIGINAL: Zorch

Only 3 survived - 1,415 didn't.
http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001ex ... ebris1.htm
Whats the link between this and the PTO?

ANSWER
Not quite what I intended, I double checked and found my answer wrong but,

All 3 survivors were picked up by HMS Electra which was part of Force Z and was sunk in the Battle of the Java Sea.
(My answer was that one of the men was serving on PoW or Repulse and was rescued)
2 of the men saw service in HMS Queen Elizabeth in the Indian Ocean.

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