CCB into Action

[rico21]

Warning Bugs
Carlo I need you your English is better than mine to explain Peter!

[rico21]

2nd bug

[Paullus]

#1. The Crew of the Half Truck is exposed hence the question in the pop-up window when you fire with the CMG

#2. Need more info. Is the Germans commanded by the Computer?

[rico21]

1- ok so no bug
2- yes + patch 1.0.28

Thanks for help.

[Paullus]

Then there is a bug. Got any save file?

[rico21]

In case 2 : No because game blocked, sorry.

[Paullus]

Okay. I'll move the thread to the Tech Support forum.

[UP844]

Hello Rico,
I have been busy at work over the last days (and I found a lot of new scenarios as I came back - thanks you all, guys!).

I'm going to test CCB now; I'll try to reproduce the issue. Basically, the Puma didn't fire to a target outside its TCA?

[rico21]

Thanks Carlo,

-Basically, the Puma didn't fire to a target outside its TCA? -

Yes,it seems that.

[UP844]

I was unable to replicate the issue while playing "CCB into action": the M10 went berserk and killed almost all the German AFVs (both PzIV, 1 Pz V, the Puma and a couple halftrack all by itself - including both Panzers entering from the South in a single Defensive Fire [&o]=).

I the made a small test scenario, with a Puma and a Russian squad, placed outside its TCA, and I ran it several times: the AI-controlled Puma always rotated its turret and fired on my squad both in Prep Fire and in Defensive Fire (see image below).

It looks like this bug is not vehicle-specific. I have only seen this warning appear when an immobilised AI-controlled turretless AFV (such as a StuG) tries to fire at a target outside its VCA. In one of the previous versions, sometimes the IA entered a loop, repeatedly trying to fire outside is VCA. Even though if the Puma was immobilised, however, it should have been able to rotate its turret: I think the bug is associated with a specific set of circumstances that would be difficult to pinpoint. Do you remember where the Puma was firing?

[rico21]

I Don't remember where the Puma was firing because it wasn't firing( game blocked )
I think too the bug is associated with a specific set of circumstances that would be difficult to pinpoint
In all case thanks for your time
Well done with the M10, the odds was with you! [&o]

[Peter Fisla]

Guys, sometimes it's hard to fix a bug that only happens when you have a few very specific order of conditions. However, if you can replicate the issue, I can fix it... Saved game before the error will help a lot!

[rico21]

[:D]
Saved game is for the parodies of wargamer Peter

[UP844]

Peter, I am aware that bug tied to a very specific set of circumstances is very hard to kill.

Could an optional feature that auto-saves the game at the end (or at the start) of every segment represent an useful tool for debugging?

I made another test to see if the target in the terrain hex could be the cause of the bug (even though it sounds crazy to myself).

In the test scenario, Russians (player controlled) move first, Germans (AI-controlled) move second.
The Puma was reluctant to fire in the Defensive Segment (it never fired in this segment), but rotated the turret and fired in both Fire Segments.

[Paullus]

Rico in which Fire Segment this this happen? Defensive First Fire during Movement Segment, Defensive Fire Segment, Fire segment or in the Advancing Fire Segment?

[rico21]

fire segment Paullus