Rodina Struggle (Morvael vs Cpt Flam)

[M60A3TTS]

Zakharov is worthy of a guards army. Klykov is third rate and should be replaced.

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: chaos45

either way thats a massive pocket you will most likely secure this turn......

Well, it's May so the weather may be my friend or enemy. It all depends where the mud will appear.

[chaos45]

even with mud---it doesnt look like he got more than a tank BDE in the way---some bombing followed by a ground attack should get the hex and just save one unit to step in...because good luck the soviets moving Germans in the mud lol

[morvael]

But I'm afraid to be involved in a contest like the battle near the Sea of Azov in October 1941, where my isolated SS troops fought with isolated Soviet troops for weeks. That left them totally exhausted, despite air supply.

[Icier]

How is your armor?
I found under the new amendments, that my armor suffered losses greater than before.

[morvael]

Armor is fine, but I have trouble replacing motorized infantry. My motorized infantry divisions operate at 30-45% TOE, while panzers at 45-60% TOE. This is of course mostly due to them being sent far away from railhead turn after turn (penetrating enemy lines), where they have trouble replacing losses. Infantry is at 55-65%.

[morvael]

Panzer report

[STEF78]

Ouch, such big Pocket early may 1942 isn't a good news for the russians!

Summer will be very long....

[morvael]

It's way too short [:(]

[Icier]

ORIGINAL: morvael

Armor is fine, but I have trouble replacing motorized infantry. My motorized infantry divisions operate at 30-45% TOE, while panzers at 45-60% TOE. This is of course mostly due to them being sent far away from railhead turn after turn (penetrating enemy lines), where they have trouble replacing losses. Infantry is at 55-65%.

I had similar figures & found it took over 2 months plus to get my motorized up 70% TOE & I had them
sitting in Prussia....mind you it doesnt help that there are TOE upgrades during this period.

[morvael]

It's just showing there is a global shortage of manpower. The system doesn't allow to prioritise some formations so much, that the rest will be starved. So my divs have to make do with what is on hand. Some got two weeks off the line, but I lacked spare divisions, so some are fighting without breaks since June 41 [:)]

[chaos45]

The best way to prioritize manpower is setting your unit ToE levels and disband un-needed units that soak up manpower and equipment.

[Icier]

Disband anti aircraft units.....also check out the German cities ...if the Russians get that far the city's ack-ack wont make any difference.

[cpt flam]

Andrei Grechko (61 Army) is promoted Général-Leitenant
despite mud pocket is closed with no possibility to reopen[:(]

[cpt flam]

and to make things worst
two panzer corps break havoc in Crimea
few losses
1 150 for 4 030 men
30 vs 110 Art

[Aditia]

Holy cow, that is more than a million men in that pocket?

[chaos45]

Ya that pocket will hurt...the only good news is, it will take him 2-3 turns to wipe it out.

[morvael]

The saga of the Orel pocket begins. It will hold out for many weeks, and will require redirecting two panzer corps to assist the infantry, because without that help they would spend whole summer mopping up. And the number of tied infantry is huge.

As for the Crimea I thought it went very bad, at the last minute I had to send one panzer corps away to help 4.PzA with the souther pincer near Orel, and I found it hard to break level 3 forts in the Crimea with just one infantry and two panzer corps.

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: Shermanny

You are going to be scarily vulnerable come March 1942. The bulges on either flank of Moscow both invite encirclement. The face of his salient at Moscow might be thinly held, and in that case, he can attack out of the face and create a situation where your lines get thinner and thinner on both flanks.

Long, thin lines and exposed salients are opportunities for the highly mobile Germans.

If you were to pull back in a timely fashion, especially in the North where there is nothing that much needs to be defended anyhow, you could give some depth and mass to your defenses elsewhere.

I was afraid cpt flam would heed the advice of Shermanny, who was spot on [:)]

[Icier]

I would be interested in the German strength...if what I think are your numbers, it will be a limited
offensive.