General Patton vs. larryfulkerson Focus Pacific #75

[larryfulkerson]

I wasn't clear. The 500+ engines applies to all airframe research that uses that engine.

Yeah, I got that part. My point is that there's at least a dozen different aircraft models and 500+ for
each one sounds expensive. So I was thinking of maybe concentrating on the engine for the Zero
and the one for the Betty and the one for the Nell, etc but not for those airplanes that you aren't building
or are going to discontinue using.

EDIT: Here's what I mean. In the image below I've boxed the Zero's and Betty's on the R&D list and
I'm thinking what I need to do is find out what engine those two types need and stockpile those to
500+. The other types that I'm not interested in don't get stockpiled. And there's approx. 40 different
types of planes that the stiockpiling idea could be applied to. That's my understanding.

EDIT2: Many thanks for the idea, by the way.

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

I wasn't clear. The 500+ engines applies to all airframe research that uses that engine.

Yeah, I got that part. My point is that there's at least a dozen different aircraft models and 500+ for
each one sounds expensive. So I was thinking of maybe concentrating on the engine for the Zero
and the one for the Betty and the one for the Nell, etc but not for those airplanes that you aren't building
or are going to discontinue using.

EDIT: Here's what I mean. In the image below I've boxed the Zero's and Betty's on the R&D list and
I'm thinking what I need to do is find out what engine those two types need and stockpile those to
500+. The other types that I'm not interested in don't get stockpiled. And there's approx. 40 different
types of planes that the stiockpiling idea could be applied to. That's my understanding.

EDIT2: Many thanks for the idea, by the way.

Now you're not getting me. [:D]

No. Look at all the planes that use the Ha-35 engine for example. If you stockpile 500+ Ha-35 engines, ALL airframes that use the Ha-35 engine will receive the research bonus. You don't need 500 engines per aircraft model if they use the same engine. So as long as you keep a minimum stockpile of 500 engines, every single airframe you want to produce that uses that engine will receive the bonus. I hope that is clearer.

[larryfulkerson]

No. Look at all the planes that use the Ha-35 engine for example. If you stockpile 500+ Ha-35 engines, ALL airframes that use the Ha-35 engine will receive the research bonus. You don't need 500 engines per aircraft model if they use the same engine. So as long as you keep a minimum stockpile of 500 engines, every single airframe you want to produce that uses that engine will receive the bonus. I hope that is clearer.

Oh. I get it. That's not so bad. I was thinking that the different models of, say the Zero, were different airframes but they still probably
all use the same engine. It's cool.

[larryfulkerson]

It's 07Jan42 and I got lucky. I captured Balikpapan with the facilities intact. And Miri too. And Tarakan. Now if I can only do the
same thing with Palembang. If I can get the oil pipeline going to move this oil and fuel to the home islands I may be able to fight
the war longer than '43. Because the home islands are running out of oil and it's only going to last about that long. But now with
this new source for oil, maybe the war can go on.

[larryfulkerson]

I went to assign my SCTF to a bombardment mission on K-town again and this time actually read the mouse-over for K-town and I was
startled and amazed to find ANOTHER KIND of resource center. It's putting out aircraft presumably. If I capture it intact does that
allow me, the Japs, to make those things? Enquiring minds want to know.

[BillBrown]

No, I think it changes to an armament factory.

[nikoslejeune]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

I went to assign my SCTF to a bombardment mission on K-town again and this time actually read the mouse-over for K-town and I was
startled and amazed to find ANOTHER KIND of resource center. It's putting out aircraft presumably. If I capture it intact does that
allow me, the Japs, to make those things? Enquiring minds want to know.

Hey there, good to see this on the move again after a false start.
And yes they are French aircraft factories and No after you capture them they revert to non aircraft factories,
either vehicle or armament (the grey matter is not what it used to be^^). Still a good catch of usefull resources and
light industry etc if you can get em intact.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's what Manila looks like now. Brian has moved his defenders into three large groups and I need to tackle all three of them
at the same time so I'm going to need some more troops. The 11th Division finally reached Fusan so I'm going to get some AK's to
bring it to the PI. There's also some troops at Tokyo that can be moved. I've already used up those pre-positioned troops that
were easy to find and load on ships and now I'm having to search for more troops, some of them in the interior of China and Korea.
I haven't touched the troops facing the Soviet Union because several of my naval squadrons attacked some Soviet ships and now
Brian says he's going to pay me back some day. An attack is scheduled for some future turn he said. So I feel like I have to man
the lines in the east. I've gotten lucky and have gotten the major oil centers except for Palembang, with the facilities intact and I'm
pulling fuel out of Miri already.

Brian has let loose those ships that were hiding at Manila and they are trying to escape to the south. Some of Brians ships have
troops on them. I sank an AP that was holding at least 4K troops just outside of Ternate. I guess they were headed for Darwin.
Which brings up another point. Should I grab the Celebes before Sumatra or vice versa? Java is on my list of course but I want
to hit the ends and work toward the middle in the group of islands I need to grab. Sumatra, Java, the Cebeles and all those
smaller islands north of Australia. I'm leaning toward pushing south toward Darwin first to prevent an escape to that port. I really
should position some ships south of Java to try to concentrate the Allied ships into the channel between Java and Borneo. I've
got a handful of subs working those waters and they have been productive so far.

Wake survives. I've been bombing it and I've landed some troops on the island and they survived the initial shock attack they
had to do but now they are too weak to make any headway against the stout American defenders. I need to bombard them with
the BB's some more.

[larryfulkerson]

Here's what Tokyo's economic situation is right now. The changes to the Jap economy were just what the doctor ordered. The RES
level is falling much slower than the last game so the changes are working just fine I'm guessing. I haven't had to turn off any cities
HI factories yet too. That's a good thing.

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Thomas has moved his defenders into three large groups and I need to tackle all three of them at the same time so I'm going to need some more troops.

I ask why do you need to tackle them all at the same time? You should be able to mass against each one individually and defeat them in detail, no? If you capture Clark, you'll keep the Allied forces divided between Bataan and Manila, unless he withdraws completely from Bataan. Again, an ideal situation for you to divide and conquer if he doesn't.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
Thomas has moved his defenders into three large groups and I need to tackle all three of them at the same time so I'm going to need some more troops.

I ask why do you need to tackle them all at the same time? You should be able to mass against each one individually and defeat them in detail, no? If you capture Clark, you'll keep the Allied forces divided between Bataan and Manila, unless he withdraws completely from Bataan. Again, an ideal situation for you to divide and conquer if he doesn't.

I'm afraid that Brian will attack into an empty hex that I've just vacated and ruin my "surround".

[BillBrown]

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[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

I'm afraid that Brian will attack into an empty hex that I've just vacated and ruin my "surround".

[&:]

That's on you then. You can close off whatever hex sides you don't want him to cross, and you certainly don't need more troops to do it.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
I'm afraid that Brian will attack into an empty hex that I've just vacated and ruin my "surround".

[&:]
That's on you then. You can close off whatever hex sides you don't want him to cross, and you certainly don't need more troops to do it.

Sounds good, I'll try it.

[Bif1961]

Take Clark leave enough to seal off Bataan and take Manila. He is doing your a favor splitting his defenses, so use that to your advantage and concentrate on one at a time.

[larryfulkerson]

ORIGINAL: Bif1961
Take Clark leave enough to seal off Bataan and take Manila. He is doing your a favor splitting his defenses, so use that to your advantage and concentrate on one at a time.

Sounds like a great idea. I'll do it.

[larryfulkerson]

I got in a really lucky torpedo shot and hit the Enterprise at Noumea. I'm surprised it's so close to the action and it's presence
is going to change my SCTF configuration and I've got to move some carriers into the Rabaul area to guard against raids. Brian
is willy and would do something like that.

[Bif1961]

Very nice, I had the Enterprise in my cross hairs just the other day off of Midway and missed with 6 torpedos.

[larryfulkerson]

It appears that Brian has evacuated all his troops into Clark Field and Bataan. Manila was empty and I seem to have captured it.
A lot of P-26's were destroyed when the city fell, about a dozen of them, and there was an ARD in port that was scuttled by the
Allies I guess. There's 120K+ troops in Clark Field and it's going to take a while to soften them up enough to assault them. I tried
a bombardment attack and lost more than he did so I really need to soften them up a lot first.

My troop column has reached Pegu and serious negotiations have opened for possession of the city. I need to move some more AF
dudes in that direction to allow air power to be applied to the negotiations. He's got more troops there than I do so I'm going to need
some air power at the very least.

I'm surveying Java trying to decide where to land. Anybody have a preference?

EDIT: Brian tells me via email that I'd better get my show on the road pretty quickly now or else in a couple of months he may have
an automatic victory over me.

[larryfulkerson]

New moves from Brian arrived at 05:25 this morning so Brian has had an early start today. This is an update on the progress of the
Japs down the Malayan peninsula. Kula Lumpur flipped to the Jap side without my having to fight for it so it must be empty. I'm
debating whether or not to land some troops at Mersing. I'm thinking I can subdue it from the land side and save all that damage to
ships and lost troops coming across the beach. I'm guessing I'm on schedule and there's no need for another dangerous landing on
the east coast of Malaya. I've been pounding Singapore day and night and he's down to his last 27 Buffaloe aircraft. I've been
running some sweeps over the city and have been moderately successful in driving some of his aircraft into the Java area, I suppose
to save them. And speaking of Java......I've got to start giving Java some thought pretty soon.