New Scenario for Testing...3 No Trump-2019

[magi]

this big scenario is my cup of tea.... however i do notice there seemingly hundreds of extra tarmac parking spaces and such things on both sides... making the unit count unnecessarily high...

[Kitchens Sink]

Yeah, they all came in with the Import function. I guess I could take a lot of them out, but I need to leave a significant number of them in on the China side so you don't know where to target your missiles to hit planes on the ground until you do recon.

[magi]

ok... i understand... the chinese side does not have as many as blue... and it creates a problem for chinese missile strikes as the probability of hitting a an empty parking spot will be very high and striking a mission relevant target will be low.....

i believe i can remove a couple hundred and still leave dozens for targeting complexity......


addendum... i removed a little over a thousand and there are plenty extras.....

[Kitchens Sink]

Maji, that is exactly what I am trying to accomplish. Randomly targeting long-range SSM's at hangars/tarmacs/etc on a large airbase without any recon as to where the planes are is likely to be a waste of valuable missiles.

Right now the Chinese Ballistic SSM strikes are not working properly. When the bug is fixed, you will see what they are doing.

As for the FEDA side, you have the same choice (as mentioned in the briefing). You can do recon and hit where the planes are on the ground...or you can go for runways/taxiways and buy time. Or...you can randomly target aircraft facilities and hope you hit something good [;)]. But, your Ballistic SSM's currently have the same bug as the Chinese. Right now you can't hit what you aim for.

I won't release v2 of this until after the Ballistic SSM bug is fixed so I can adjust things. I have made lots of other changes also, so the next version will play quite differently and be a lot harder.

[Schr75]

ORIGINAL: Gunner98

This is quite a good scenario - lots of nasty little surprises.

Considering how many nasty surprises Gunner98 have given me in the Northern Fury series, I can´t help feeling a bit intimidated, and at the same time,...... serves you right Gunner98[:D]

Nice to see you on the receiving end.[;)]

That being said.

Deff. gonna give this a try when I have the time, and Gunner98 keep ´em comming.

I love your northen fury series.

S

[Kitchens Sink]

Yes, Gunner has put many of my ships on the bottom with his Double-Regiment bomber sweeps.

Schr75, my advice is to wait till you see v2 of this come out. It will be much better thanks to the input I have received (and some new things my devious mind has come up with) [:D]

[Gunner98]

serves you right Gunner98

Touché [:D]

Working on another but I'm a Lua numpty so struggle a bit with it. When the Cargo module comes out there are about 7 or 8 at various stages of completion waiting for that.

B

[magi]

ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

Maji, that is exactly what I am trying to accomplish. Randomly targeting long-range SSM's at hangars/tarmacs/etc on a large airbase without any recon as to where the planes are is likely to be a waste of valuable missiles.

Right now the Chinese Ballistic SSM strikes are not working properly. When the bug is fixed, you will see what they are doing.

As for the FEDA side, you have the same choice (as mentioned in the briefing). You can do recon and hit where the planes are on the ground...or you can go for runways/taxiways and buy time. Or...you can randomly target aircraft facilities and hope you hit something good [;)]. But, your Ballistic SSM's currently have the same bug as the Chinese. Right now you can't hit what you aim for.

I won't release v2 of this until after the Ballistic SSM bug is fixed so I can adjust things. I have made lots of other changes also, so the next version will play quite differently and be a lot harder.

it will be a different game when the BM's work.. which i really want to work.....
i removed a little over a thousand and there are many hundreds of empty targets.... .....

[Kitchens Sink]

I'll trim it down in v2.

[magi]

ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

I'll trim it down in v2.

okidokie..... i gotta tell you.... its 230 in the morming.... i really like this thing.... even needing some refinement... it already one of my favorites... very cool indeed... gotta go to bed.....

[Schr75]

Schr75, my advice is to wait till you see v2 of this come out. It will be much better thanks to the input I have received (and some new things my devious mind has come up with)

Will do. I´m still busy playing another scen anyway, so no hurry.

Working on another but I'm a Lua numpty so struggle a bit with it. When the Cargo module comes out there are about 7 or 8 at various stages of completion waiting for that.

No rush. I´m not going anywhere.
In the mean time I can catch up on the gazillion new scen´s I haven´t had time to try yet.[:D]

Søren

[magi]

this thing is really cool.... i wished i had more strike aircraft though....

[Kitchens Sink]

Wait till you see v2. You will have more strike aircraft, and you are gonna need every one of them [:D].

Version 2 will be out after the next game patch (with the Ballistic SSM fix). It will be almost a completely new scenario with lots more things to shoot with (and be shot at you), as well as fixes/tweaks posted by others. I think you will enjoy it.

[magi]

It's really pretty intense...... the way red acts in the air is pretty thoughtful.... it has taken me 2-3 days of constant management to play 2-3 hours of game tine... although much of that in the beginning figuring out how to handle myself on such a broad front with so much going on....

The notion of "pealing the onion" is a reality in this..... I believe the air battle is turning in my favor in the north..... and have made gains in the south... I'm preparing to make my first strikes there.... however most of my fighters are in the air or RTB.... I need more of them to press my current position or may loose the advantage.....

The game reveals the strength and weakness of the F 35… I wonder how accurate the modeling is..? As an ISR platform it is outstanding... but it's limited Loadout is disappointing....... I might add a few more with some strike munitions to try out......

I haven't come across any red s300-s400 SAM batteries yet...... that would really make things hard... but more real..... the rc-180's seem to have a hard time spotting red mobile units and IAD's..... I wonder if something is not right..... also I suspect many red aircraft are in covered parking..... so targeting them is having minimal reward..... although Wuhu have many in the open and will be the recipient of my first serious strike.....

Your doing real good.... when your finished I believe you may have one of the finest large scenarios in CMANO.... thank you.... can't wait for the final version…

[magi]

i have just discovered that for China you have "Auto Side ID" turned on.... i keep wondering how they were getting a target-able solution on my stealth assets so quickly... especially my rq-180's....... so... i turned it off....

[Kitchens Sink]

Magi, I think Auto-Side should be kept on for China, and here's why:

1. My understanding of Auto-Side ID is that it just identifies the contact as friend or foe when it's detected. It doesn't increase the visibility of the target, the chance of detection, or the targeting solution capabilities. (Maybe you are confusing Auto Side ID with the "Unit is Auto-Detectable" setting, which makes things immediately visible?)

2. When playing blue side and you see 6 planes take off from an enemy airbase, do you assume they are hostile and mark them as such even though they are still yellow/unknown? (probably so). If a stealth plane pops up 10 miles from your F-35, do you assume it's hostile and take a shot at it even though it's still marked as unknown? (probably so). I'm just giving the computer-opponent side the same capability.

I will change the briefing to state that all civilian/neutral aircraft and shipping have cleared the area, and that all unknown contacts should be assumed hostile. That should even things out and make auto-side ID a fair setting for China.

[magi]

ok... but wouldnt ROE WCS.. weapons free air allow that.....? you have weapons tight... but auto id on.... im not sure what the auto id difference is honestly....

[Kitchens Sink]

I "think" that in a scenario with only 2 sides hostile to each other (no biologics, neutrals, or 3rd parties) that Weapons Free/Auto Side ID OFF acts the same as Weapons Tight/Auto Side ID ON....but I'm not totally sure. There may be a difference in how the red side reacts and prosecutes (chases) unknown air/ship/land contacts.

Anyhow, I chose the Weapons Tight/Auto Side ID on and it seems to work the way I intended.

[magi]

was just in the manual... your position is reasonable... i get it now...

ƒAuto Side ID: All units must be detected but the side identified upon detection.
ƒAuto Side and Unit ID: All units must be detected but the unit’s side and unit type is provided upon detection.

[magi]

wrong thread....