"It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A)

[ny59giants]

43 Oct 24 & 25: Just Logistics and Chungking

Subs:
I-158 is up at NE corner of map to await any TF from Cape Town. She misses an xAK entering or exiting the map.

CVs:
Parts of KB and SC TF leave Tulagi for Kusaie

China:
Chungking - Just my Helens bombing the AF both days.

Notes:
Ki-61-II KAIb Tony to 5/44

A7M2 Sam to 3/44

[Lowpe]

Wow.[X(]

[ny59giants]

43 Oct 26 & 27: [>:][>:]

China:
Chungking - Just over 120 Helens bomb the AF both days

Notes:
N1K5-J George to 10/44

Who would of thunk that so little would be happening in late Oct '43?!? [&:][&:]

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Wow.[X(]

+1

You "dodged" a bullet by setting up a very good defence there and dangling a nice big carrot to entice him in. Losing that many 4Es is devastating to the Allies.

Well played. [&o]

[modrow]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum

Who would of thunk that so little would be happening in late Oct '43?!? [&:][&:]

Let me be a bit cynical here - isn't that how the Allied game should be played (even in stock, but much more so in a mod where the Allied option to hit where KB is not is disabled by 3 -or is it 4?- KB parts sailing around each of which is strong enough that the Allied side *may* (or may not, which is reason enough not to try it) be able to deal with if all Allied carriers (including the generous additions to the Allied OOB) are concentrated? And if these KBs are made more competitive in 43 by making better planes CV capable, isn't it just logical that the Allied wait longer?

What I currently take from AARs in this forum is that the Allied can do a deep thrust to conquer a set of bases under a deathstar umbrella that does not have to care about a SLOCs at least in the second half of '44, expand these with a gazillion of engineers in no time to set up an LBA umbrella, freeing deathstar for escort duty to keep supply flowing in and unleash a strat bombing campaign which leads to VP-victory. IJ may have a lot of base VPs, but these can be denied by starving these bases long enough. And VPs for losses inflicted by IJ will quite possibly be reduced in this approach as well. You just have to take care to defend hard enough in order to avoid IJ auto victory.

If this was the case, wouldn't it be logical to hide the relevant attack shipping and Navy assets not just until mid 43 (as a lot of Allied players recommend anyway) but until mid 44 (as a matter of fact, too much is happening for that purpose in this game, look at what happened to enemy heavy bombers). So far, I have yet to read about an effective response to this deep thrust approach - please point me to one if you see it.

Actually, I am worried by this development which may lead to rather boring games if everyone starts plaing this way.

Just my 2cts.

Hartwig

edited for grammar

[ny59giants]

32 Oct 28 & 29: Fighter sweeps in India

China:
Chungking - Just the usual Helens bombing runs.

India:
Gorakhpur - This base on the eastern flank is subject to Georges and Franks.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 28, 43
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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 45

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 7 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 19000 feet *

CAP engaged:
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 44

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 6 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
37 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 19000 feet *

CAP engaged:
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 22090.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 42

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters to 28320.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 42

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 151 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 45

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
45 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 19000 feet *

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Afternoon Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 54
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 63

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 2 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 damaged
P-38F Lightning: 2 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed on ground
Lysander II: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.211 Sqn RAF with Beaufighter TF.X (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 3000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 3000.
Raid is overhead
23rd FG/74th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-38H Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 22000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

Training flight from No.211 Sqn RAF has been caught up in attack

Air losses for the day are 28J to 44A with 11 KIA. Not bad as I had set my Helens to Naval Attack and AF as secondary so they would come in in PM phase. I set the Franks only to sweep on the 29th and the skies are now empty. [:)]

Notes: India has been static for months now. I try occasional sweeps just to see Brian's reaction.

[ny59giants]

Hartwig,

I understand your concern about these deep strike attacks by the Allies. Canoerebel (Dan) has done it twice now. The first vs John 3rd was after KB had been significantly weakened. The second was against Obvert to a place and in a game where there is NO stacking limits. I wish there was a sound way to stop or at least slow down these deep strikes, but I don't know if there is one. The Allies don't have overwhelming numbers in CV and CVLs, but the fact they get over 40 CVEs in '44 allows most to become just fighter decks and give them such a powerful CAP over their fleet. Japan needs a way to inflict damage and still keep a viable KB presence. In this mod, John decided to make the 2nd and 3rd gen George CV capable. So, there is no gap between the end of the A6 Zero and the A7 Sam lines where the Hellcat and then the 2nd gen Corsairs rule the air over CVs. Does this tilt the game in favor of Japan? I don't know yet. But I do know that due to the losses to the Allied fleet in '42 and early '43, this game 'could' go into late '45 or '46.

Due to the low level of activity in this game right now, I'm now having my CV based fighters with high skills in Air and Straf, but only mid-50s in overall experience now train in Gnd. This third skill has already increased overall experience by up to 10 points.

I hope this and other preparations will keep Japan competitive in the months ahead.

Michael

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Who would of thunk that so little would be happening in late Oct '43?!? [&:][&:]

Let me be a bit cynical here - isn't that how the Allied game should be played (even in stock, but much more so in a mod where the Allied option to hit where KB is not is disabled by 3 -or is it 4?- KB parts sailing around each of which is strong enough that the Allied side *may* (or may not, which is reason enough not to try it) be able to deal with if all Allied carriers (including the generous additions to the Allied OOB) are concentrated? And if these KBs are made more competitive in 43 by making better planes CV capable, isn't it just logical that the Allied wait longer?

What I currently take from AARs in this forum is that the Allied can do a deep thrust to conquer a set of bases under a deathstar umbrella that does not have to care about a SLOCs at least in the second half of '44, expand these with a gazillion of engineers in no time to set up an LBA umbrella, freeing deathstar for escort duty to keep supply flowing in and unleash a strat bombing campaign which leads to VP-victory. IJ may have a lot of base VPs, but these can be denied by starving these bases long enough. And VPs for losses inflicted by IJ will quite possibly be reduced in this approach as well. You just have to take care to defend hard enough in order to avoid IJ auto victory.

If this was the case, wouldn't it be logical to hide the relevant attack shipping and Navy assets not just until mid 43 (as a lot of Allied players recommend anyway) but until mid 44 (as a matter of fact, too much is happening for that purpose in this game, look at what happened to enemy heavy bombers). So far, I have yet to read about an effective response to this deep thrust approach - please point me to one if you see it.

Actually, I am worried by this development which may lead to rather boring games if everyone starts plaing this way.

Just my 2cts.

Hartwig

edited for grammar

I also see some very exciting games that have a lot going on early. If the Allies go into a turtle shell that provides numerous opportunities for Japan to take advantage of it. A passive defence is weak in 42 as there simply isn't enough in any one area to defend against a concentrated Japanese offensive.

Maybe if the Allies wait until mid-44 more often we'll start seeing a lot of games with Japan attacking the Soviets or trashing Australian industry and resources in in mid-to-late 42. [:D]

Either of these options can lead to massive VP gains and make the long climb back very difficult for the Allies if they start late.

ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum

Hartwig,

I understand your concern about these deep strike attacks by the Allies. Canoerebel (Dan) has done it twice now. The first vs John 3rd was after KB had been significantly weakened. The second was against Obvert to a place and in a game where there is NO stacking limits.

The lack of stacking limits makes this especially enticing in this game, which is a kind of hybrid old/new system, with updated AA and other benefits but no SL. it would be very different if SL were involved for sure.

This has been Dan's MO for a long time though, and it's something that isn't entirely new to the game. There has long been a concern that if Japan is strong, don't engage them in historical ways in theatres that don't allow a strat-bombing option.

I don't subscribe to this as I've played Japan enough to know that the oil/fuel and supply used to fight far from home and early in the game does make these theatres a strategic method of both weakening and gaining VPs from the Japanese.

I wish there was a sound way to stop or at least slow down these deep strikes, but I don't know if there is one. The Allies don't have overwhelming numbers in CV and CVLs, but the fact they get over 40 CVEs in '44 allows most to become just fighter decks and give them such a powerful CAP over their fleet.

Why should the Japanese be able to stop this? It's historically viable and precedented. The only problem in game is that weather is not as dire as it actually was up North. The Allies would never have landed in the Kuriles or Sakhalin as a first strat bombing stop in the war as those places are just too socked in most of the year.

The Allies should be able to go deep and because they've gotten into range doesn't end the game or make it boring. A strat bombing campaign can be very challenging and these forward positions still have to be supported, opening opportunities for interdiction. If the LOC is not protected then Japan has an opportunity.

Japan needs a way to inflict damage and still keep a viable KB presence. In this mod, John decided to make the 2nd and 3rd gen George CV capable. So, there is no gap between the end of the A6 Zero and the A7 Sam lines where the Hellcat and then the 2nd gen Corsairs rule the air over CVs. Does this tilt the game in favor of Japan? I don't know yet. But I do know that due to the losses to the Allied fleet in '42 and early '43, this game 'could' go into late '45 or '46.

Due to the low level of activity in this game right now, I'm now having my CV based fighters with high skills in Air and Straf, but only mid-50s in overall experience now train in Gnd. This third skill has already increased overall experience by up to 10 points.

I hope this and other preparations will keep Japan competitive in the months ahead.

Michael

Japan can play Scen 1 PDU-off and still make it into 45, and doesn't need Georges on the KB or zillions of CD gun regiments to do it. [;)]

[ny59giants]

43 Oct 30 & 31: The month goes out with a whimper.

China:
Chungking - Just my 120 plus Helens bombing the AF both days.

Notes:
Ki-84b Frank to 7/44

The damaged CV Soryu [26-1-5(1)-0] leaves Tulagi with the last now undamaged warship, BB Kirishima, for Truk. 6 Kagero Class DDs are in TFs that will head to Japan for their 10/43 upgrades. The other 3 Kongo Class BCs along with more overdue upgrades of DDs will join them from Kusaie Island.

[ny59giants]

43 Nov 1 & 2: I'm glad Brian's subs can hit only slow moving merchants ships and not fast moving warships. [:(]

Subs:
Finback claims another victim off Toyohara. 2 TT hits put an xAK down.

CVs:

Sub attack near Feni Islands at 107,127 (2 due SE of Rabaul)

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
BC Kirishima
CL Niyodo
CL Yubari
CL Noshiro
CL Kinugasa
CL Aoba
DD Hatsukaze
DD Mazabuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shiranui
DD Maikaze

Allied Ships
SS Pegase

SS Pegase launches 7 torpedoes at CV Soryu
DD Mazabuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shiranui attacking submerged sub ....
DD Maikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mazabuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hatsuyuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shiranui attacking submerged sub ....
DD Maikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mazabuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsuyuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Shiranui fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Maikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Maikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Maikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Maikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Maikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

GULP!! [:D] Not a good thing to see first thing this morning before I've finished my coffee.

SS Bommerang fires 2 TT at a DD in TF after moving another 2 hexes NE, but misses.

China:
Chungking - Over 120 Helens hit AF both days. The troops from the "Siege of Sian" have been marching to the area around the base OR have been ordered to march and then RR to Shanghai for deployments outside China.

Shanghai - Multiple Transport TFs have arrived here and one will arrive on 3rd.

Kashgar - 78 4e bombers from India hit my troops here on 1st.

CenPac:

Night Naval bombardment of Arorae at 138,137 (3 SSE of Tabiteuea)

Japanese Ships
DD Tarakaze
DD Raikaze
DD Karakaze
DD Shimakaze
DD Yuzuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Satsuki
DD Kisaragi

Allied Ships
AVD San Pablo, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Port hits 27
Port supply hits 4

DD Tarakaze firing at Arorae
DD Raikaze firing at Arorae
DD Karakaze firing at Arorae
DD Shimakaze firing at Arorae
DD Yuzuki firing at Arorae
DD Mochizuki firing at Arorae
DD Nagatsuki firing at Arorae
DD Kikuzuki firing at Arorae
DD Satsuki firing at Arorae
DD Kisaragi firing at Arorae

They will head back to Tulagi to recover minor damage and replenish before going back. These are Japan's 37 and 39 knot DDs.

Notes:
I fly off the air groups from CV Soryu while doing orders just in case there are more TT fired over the next few days before she arrives at Truk for full repairs.

I go through all my highly experienced land based George groups to harvest fighter pilots.

By mid-Nov I'll get my last CarDiv (2 heavy CVs & CVL). The 2 CVs are Shokaku-kai Class (see screenshot) and Aso Class CVL. I'll need those highly experienced fighter pilots.

KB's Jills are now almost all training in ASW.

Kusaie Island goes to Port 3 and will expand to 4.

[ny59giants]

FPs - During my usual beginning of the month monitoring of pilots and training, I see many of my FPs on warships having fatigue levels over 200. I order them to rest. I feel those with high fatigue will be more susceptible to ops loses and possible highly trained pilots being killed. Am I just being paranoid, or does this happen to you to?

[Bif1961]

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FPs - During my usual beginning of the month monitoring of pilots and training, I see many of my FPs on warships having fatigue levels over 200. I order them to rest. I feel those with high fatigue will be more susceptible to ops loses and possible highly trained pilots being killed. Am I just being paranoid, or does this happen to you to?

Did you mean over 20?

For the planes I usually run them at 50 mission, 20 train and 30 rest. They usually then stay in a reasonable range, but for me 20 is not too high to keep going. Around 40 is when I'd like to stand them down.

[ny59giants]

Did you mean over 20?

Not a typo...there were a few warships that I had accidentally left at 100% NavS. They have fatigue over 200.

For the planes I usually run them at 50 mission, 20 train and 30 rest. They usually then stay in a reasonable range, but for me 20 is not too high to keep going. Around 40 is when I'd like to stand them down.

That is what I typically set my FP groups at or very close to those setting.

[ny59giants]

43 Nov 3 & 4: Back to just China.

Subs:
Skate is hit once by depth charges. Probably enough to just send her home for repairs.

CVs:
CV Soryu arrives safely at Truk. It will take 23 days to repair.

China:
Chungking - just the 125 Helens bombing the AF daily. <yawn>
Kashgar - 90 4e bombers hit the troops hard as they inflict 734 casualties.

Notes:
A7M2 Sam to 2/44. Once it advances to 1/44, I'll move some to the M3 version and expand others to larger size.

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Did you mean over 20?

Not a typo...there were a few warships that I had accidentally left at 100% NavS. They have fatigue over 200.

For the planes I usually run them at 50 mission, 20 train and 30 rest. They usually then stay in a reasonable range, but for me 20 is not too high to keep going. Around 40 is when I'd like to stand them down.

That is what I typically set my FP groups at or very close to those setting.

Haha! Okay, then yes, that would worry me a bit. [:)]

I've always used Jakes as expendable assets though. It's one of the things I choose not to micromanage as Japan, sine there are so many other things to focus on. I'll occasionally just have a look through to see if groups are low on planes or pilots, then let them go back to their business.

[Mike Solli]

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Did you mean over 20?

Not a typo...there were a few warships that I had accidentally left at 100% NavS. They have fatigue over 200.

For the planes I usually run them at 50 mission, 20 train and 30 rest. They usually then stay in a reasonable range, but for me 20 is not too high to keep going. Around 40 is when I'd like to stand them down.

That is what I typically set my FP groups at or very close to those setting.

I practically always set my ship FPs to 100% naval search, and often at extended range. I've never seen anything like fatigue like that. I've never seen fatigue at 100 let alone 200.

[ny59giants]

43 Nov 5 thru 8: As I wrote and got in reply from Brian, "Same Same."

Subs:
Finback is 2 east of Toyohara and sinks another PB. There is a significant reef of Japanese ships sunk in this hex and the one to the south.
I-175 is sunk at Tanna. I think I need to keep my subs out of ALL coastal hexes going forward.

China:
Chungking - About 125 Helens bomb daily, weather permitting
Kashgar - Allied 4e bombers hit my troops. Up to 48 B-24s with over 50 Brit Liberators hit them, but most now have forts at 3.

Notes:
In response to my "same, same" email, Brian said that it will be mainly China and subs vs ASW until he is ready. So my readers are going to see little action in this AAR for some time. [:(]

[ny59giants]

43 Nov 9 thru 11: This will get me caught up as it's 'same, same.'

Subs:
Nothing hit by either side for three days. I'll take that as a victory.

China:
"Same, Same" - Just Chungking and Kashgar. However, troops are ordered to now march into Chungking directly.

Notes:
Ki-84r Frank to 11/45 (2 fully repaired factories at work here)

Ki-84b Frank to 6/44 (4 fully repaired factories at work here)

Ki-100-I Tony to 9/44 (just one factory)

A7M3 Sam to 7/45 (two factories here)

Screenshot - lots of brigades coming in the next few days. Where to send them??

[ny59giants]

Chungking - What to do about this base?!? The Allies have 195 LCUs there and about 860,000 troops which means a lot of mouths to feed. [:D] In earlier posting, Pax and others said they took control of all hexsides but one to allow a retreat path. I have 25 full strength divisions plus plenty of artillery within two hexes and almost everyone 100% prepped. The SL for Chungking is 160,000. Do I attempt to take the base or just take control of ALL hexsides and keep bombing the AF?