"It's the economy, stupid" BTSL NY59G (J) vs Gen Patton (A)

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China:
Kashgar - Almost 100 4e 'beasties' bomb troop when weather permits.

What an absolute waste of a mission.
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Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 137287 troops, 1378 guns, 974 vehicles, Assault Value = 4365

Defending force 533484 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15056

Japanese adjusted assault: 2318

Allied adjusted defense: 3389

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3522 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 619 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Guns lost 31 (2 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
68485 casualties reported
Squads: 2359 destroyed, 413 disabled
Non Combat: 1955 destroyed, 175 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (25 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units destroyed 14

Most of the divisions have around 30 plus squads disabled, but with high disruption and fatigue across them all. They are divided, but the worst two are ordered to march 2 hexes for R&R while fresh troops march here. No fort reduction.

I thought that would happen. No fort reduction is poor luck, but not detrimental. Chungking can only take 8-10 more attacks like that spread out over about 5 days.
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Notes:
A7M3 Sam to 5/45

C6N1 Myrt to 7/44

Ki-43-IV Oscar to 8/45

N1K5-J George to 6/44

I though Sam in this mod was accelerated to a 2/45 start?

I think at this point the Oscar IV needs only minimal r&d if you have engine bonus. Better off putting those facilities into the Ki94II, Shinden, Ki83, or even Karyu. Perhaps a dedicated kamikaze if you have those bases covered.
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A7M2 Sam will start production in 1/44.
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Michael, was that your first deliberate assault on Chungking? Also, how long have you been bombarding it with artillery? I finally did my first bombardment there. The AV is about the same for my game. Just wondering how long to bombard before trying an assault.
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Michael, was that your first deliberate assault on Chungking? Also, how long have you been bombarding it with artillery? I finally did my first bombardment there. The AV is about the same for my game. Just wondering how long to bombard before trying an assault.

Mike, you can't compare results, this game has stacking limits, and yours doesn't.
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I'm a long way from having to use kamikazes, but I need to do something at some point.

Michael
Always another tough decision. I would solicit thoughts here and then sit back. A lot of it stems from how you will plan to use them.
I'll provide you just a teaser here of how difficult this is:
Kate - packs a good punch, has great range (relatively as a kami, 7 is good), but is painfully slow.
Toka/Tsurugi - packs a good punch, but the range is only 5, however, great speed.
I'm not suggesting you won't have both, you likely will. BUT, where do you focus?
This is just one small part of your decision tree, you can do this for another 6 or 7 model 'pairs'.

I honestly don't believe there is a best choice here, BUT I do believe that for each player in a specific game, there is a best choice. Make sense?
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Screen shot shows two things. Current position of KB and what warships are due upgrades in Dec 43. The 4 CAs are leaving Port Hedland for Soerabaja. I'm thinking since it will take some time to rebuild my shattered DB & TB groups to send these ships up to Japan for upgrades (25 days). So KB would be weakened until late Jan 44. I have another large group due upgrades in Apr 44.
Painful as it is, you gotta do those upgrades ... at least in stock. If this is like stock, then the AA and radar upgrades are well worth the month of down time.

Actually, it isn't painful to do the upgrades, just suspense laden. If the ships are upgrading safely, you know they won't be sunk![;)]
Well, yes you are right. But the pain is when you need the KB (or whatever ship is in drydock upgrade) and you can't have it .... that's against the unthinking AI ... against a player who might know your upgrade timing ...
as the allies it would mean a 'free' amphib op or maybe two ... i know the KB won't oppose me, so the defense optins are limited and I can load up for them.
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I'm a long way from having to use kamikazes, but I need to do something at some point.

Michael
Always another tough decision. I would solicit thoughts here and then sit back. A lot of it stems from how you will plan to use them.
I'll provide you just a teaser here of how difficult this is:
Kate - packs a good punch, has great range (relatively as a kami, 7 is good), but is painfully slow.
Toka/Tsurugi - packs a good punch, but the range is only 5, however, great speed.
I'm not suggesting you won't have both, you likely will. BUT, where do you focus?
This is just one small part of your decision tree, you can do this for another 6 or 7 model 'pairs'.

I honestly don't believe there is a best choice here, BUT I do believe that for each player in a specific game, there is a best choice. Make sense?

If you want to attack at over 360mph you have only three bomber choices. Somebody used Recon planes (njp?) to good effect. Fighters and Fighter bomber squadrons are needed for other duty.

Kami attacks are almost always land based, subject to fracturing, and a horde of slow planes I think is almost always VP for the Allies. In fact, can you name me one recent JFB that has done well with kamikazes?
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R&D

A7M2 Sam......1/44...2 x 90
A7M3 Sam......5/45...6 x 30
A7M3-J Sam....2/45...1 x 16(14)
B6N2a Jill....4/44...2 x 30
B7A2 Grace....8/44...2 x 30
C6N1 Myrt.....7/44...1 x 15
C6N1-S Myrt...5/45...1 x 15
D4Y4 Judy.....4/44...3 x 30
E16A1 Paul....1/44...1 x 15
G4M1-L Betty..4/44...1 x 15
G8N1 Rita.....11/44..1 x 8(7)
J6M1..........9/45...2 x 30(30)
J7W1 Shinden..12/45..6 x 112(98)
Ki-100-I Tony....9/44...1 x 30
Ki-102a Randy....2/45...1 x 30
Ki-102c Randy....9/45...3 x 49(41)
Ki-115a Tsurugi..6/45...2 x 50(11)
Ki-43-IV Oscar...8/45...2 x 30
Ki-46-III KAIb Dinah...8/44...1 x 30
Ki-61-II KAIb Tony.....4/44...2 x 30
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy.....5/44...3 x 30
Ki-83.........9/45...4 x 67(53)
Ki-84b Frank..5/44...4 x 30
Ki-84r Frank..11/45..2 x 30
Ki-94-II......2/46...2 x 22(38)
Kikka.........1/46...1 x 8(7)
N1K5-J George.6/44...5 x 30
P1Y2 Frances..3/44...4 x 30
P1y2-S Frances.11/44..1 x 15
Toka..........12/45..2 x 36(24)

What changes would you suggest?

What do I change some of the end of the line models to??
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Michael, Again, take this with a grain of salt because I don't think there is a magic formula, but here are a few thoughts. Remember, I am not expert on this mod, so my comments relate to stock.


Toka: the IJN version of the Ki-115 Tsurugi. I would not build it. Why? You have 3 IJN models that are far better and already in production: Jill/Judy/Grace. All are about the same speed as the Toka, same load, etc.
Tsurugi: This can be a good choice to use the existing Ha-35 capacity. These can also be effective at high fort bases, those 800kg bombs actually do damage. The 5 range is the issue.
C6N-S: For me, this is the best of a lot of lousy IJN NF's. I say lousy as none have armor, so losses are high. This one at least is 1E, so all the A2A losses against the b-29's hurt only half as much.
Randy NF: It looks like you will still be in the game when this arrives, so sit back and enjoy watching this one work. Your losses will fall in half due to the armor, and the allied losses will double due to it armaments.
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so are you shooting for a 1943 auto victory? you're about 5,000 points short and maybe the continued losses in Chungking will push your over and especially if you can capture it before the end of 43!
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Already had the AI grant me auto victory earlier in '43. I'm going until Japan is forced to surrender.
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Toka: the IJN version of the Ki-115 Tsurugi. I would not build it. Why? You have 3 IJN models that are far better and already in production: Jill/Judy/Grace. All are about the same speed as the Toka, same load, etc.

In this mod, I think the Toka is a 385 mph screamer, significantly better than Judy 4. it is the ijn version of the Ki115b. A solid choice.

Given recent games, I don't think the Frank B is worth it or the Sam J.

The Grace is light, but you have that base covered with Judy/Jill.

Frances S is the best NF in the game--Myrt is probably 2nd best. Randy's radar doesn't ever come into play unless modded.

You are going to make it late, so personally it would be interesting to see what the Kikka can do.


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I told Brian that we may actually see CVB Midway in action. How many TT hits would that beast take b4 being sunk?? 6 plus?
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Thanks for the feedback on what planes to focus on in '44 and beyond.
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43 Dec 8 thru 11: back to just China....

China:
Kashgar - Allied heavy bombers from India fly over the mountains to bomb my troops here. Yawn!! [:D]

Chungking - Severe storms limit my Helens building up their experience on his AF. Four days of ground bombardments. Here is what occurred on 11th...
Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4806 troops, 307 guns, 394 vehicles, Assault Value = 4332

Defending force 476646 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12480

Allied ground losses:
2692 casualties reported
Squads: 125 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 48 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Notes:
Ki-69-Ia (T) Peggy to 4/44

P1Y2 Frances to 2/44

A7M3 Sam to 4/45

Ki-84b Frank to 4/44

B6N2a Jill to 3/44

Kaigun - Either in Japan for upgrades or taking on fuel at Truk. In next few days, she will be ready again, but just need for airgroups to finish up some more rest (lower airframe fatigue) before restarting training again for KB.
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43 Dec 12 thru 15: Yes readers, its just China and logistics right now. With John 3rd vs Canoerebel ending, the most exciting AAR is Lowpe vs Obvert. I wish I could report something happening here, but no joy.

Subs: Triton is hit by ASW TF 2 west of Tabiteuea. I'm making my ASW TFs into 3 ship TF with 2 "E" and a DD.

China:
Kashgar - Bombed by Allies for first three days.
Chungking - Weather ruled most days, so my Helens were grounded. However, I have plenty of artillery to ground bombard as my Infantry Divisions (ID) continue to recover disruption and fatigue. Here is the result for the 20th. I'm reducing his raw AV by about 100 each day.
Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 17491 troops, 414 guns, 433 vehicles, Assault Value = 4445

Defending force 467836 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12028

Allied ground losses:
1285 casualties reported
Squads: 123 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Notes:
KB (those ships not in Japan for upgrades) is now back at Kusaie Island.

Ki-61-II KAIb Tony to 3/44
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43 Dec 16 thru 19: Another 4 days worth of mostly China

Subs:
SS Tautog is 2 SWW of Eniwetok on morning of 19th. My two G.6 CVs and a few other warships due 1/44 upgrades heading for Japan run over her. Thankfully, ALL 6 TT miss CV Kushiro... <gulp> [&o]

China:
Kushgar - No Allied bombers for four days.

Hong Kong - Lots of troops from greater Chungking area are here or marching the last few hexes for redeployment. India and Java/Sumatra get most. Lots of xAPs and Toho Class xAK (t) coming and going.

Chungking - My 190 plus Helens find weather get better and better. Only 1 of 10 ID have any fatigue or disruption left. I'll plan on deliberate attacks twice per month now. Here are results for 19th...
Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 71349 troops, 850 guns, 561 vehicles, Assault Value = 4460

Defending force 460521 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11625

Allied ground losses:
2811 casualties reported
Squads: 153 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


CenPac:
Nonouti (1 NW of Tabiteuea) - I start ground attack by 20 Jill and 25 George on 19th. There is a fragment of 24th ID here (rest on Tabiteuea). Troops at Truk almost prepped to retake. A strong SC TF at Kusaie with 4 CA, 2 CLAA, and 9 DDs get ready to bombard it. Counter invasion in about two weeks.

Notes:
N1K5-J George to 5/44

A7M3 Sam to 3/45

Japan - Nagaoka has AF 8 and Niigata has AF 4. I'm building up bases to forts 4 and AF to either 8 or max in western half first. I have 10 construction type units assigned to these two bases.
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43 Dec 20 thru 24: No longer boring....Death Star reappears off Tabiteuea!!

Subs:
23rd - Gudgeon is run over by part of KB and later the Combat Replay announces "enemy carriers." Bugger!!

CVs:
20th - TF shows up 3 NE of Baker Island. Looks like transports, but turns out it's not.
21st - Three TFs are now 6 east of Tabiteuea = 329F, 202B, 23Aux & 116F, 37B, 18Aux, & SC TF
22nd - DS is now 2 NE of Tabiteuea
23rd - See screen shot for positions of KB & DS

Aleutians:
Sitkinak - I have a group of Frank and George sweep on 22nd with mixed results.
Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 25
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 29000 feet

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 24 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 34550.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27530.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Sitkinak Island , at 180,45

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 30

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 29000 feet

CAP engaged:
VF-38 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
343rd FG/11th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

Losses are 19F, 14G vs 17HC, 9P-38

China:
Chungking - My second attack occurs on 22nd...
Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 139693 troops, 1383 guns, 1050 vehicles, Assault Value = 4457

Defending force 452410 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11255

Japanese adjusted assault: 2092

Allied adjusted defense: 3277

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)


Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
13790 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 1571 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 142 disabled
Engineers: 36 destroyed, 209 disabled
Guns lost 134 (2 destroyed, 132 disabled)
Vehicles lost 36 (7 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
22090 casualties reported
Squads: 1185 destroyed, 505 disabled
Non Combat: 1158 destroyed, 189 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 21

All the division are divided and once they recover, I'll do it again.

CenPac:
Nonouti - 20 Jill & 25 George attack his troops on 20th.

Tabiteuea - busy day on the 23rd as Amphib TF and BB TF hit base.
Night Naval bombardment of Tabiteuea at 137,134 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 15 damaged
H8K1 Emily: 2 destroyed on ground
N1K1-J George: 18 damaged
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed on ground
A6M3b Zero: 25 damaged
A6M3b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

50 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Indiana
CA Rome
CA Wichita
CA Astoria
CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 3
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CL Mobile
CL Birmingham
CL Richmond

Japanese ground losses:
720 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 25
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2
Pre-Invasion action off Tabiteuea (137,134) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

299 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania
BB Arizona, Shell hits 1
CL Jeanne d'Arc, Shell hits 3, on fire
CL Cleveland
CL Boise
CLAA Prince Robert
DD Gansevoort
DD Frazier
DD Laffey
AP Gen. T.H.Bliss, Shell hits 3
CVE Tangier
AMC Victor Schoelcher
DD Gillespie

Japanese ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

BB Pennsylvania firing at 46th Division
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at BB Arizona
BB Arizona firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
CL Jeanne d'Arc firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CL Jeanne d'Arc
CL Cleveland firing at 46th Division
CL Boise firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CL Boise
CLAA Prince Robert firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at CLAA Prince Robert
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment firing at DD Gansevoort
DD Gansevoort firing at 2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
DD Frazier firing at 43rd Division
DD Laffey firing at 43rd Division
15cm 41YT CD Gun Battery engaging AP Gen. T.H.Bliss at 12,000 yards
CVE Tangier firing to suppress enemy battery at 12,000 yards
DD Gansevoort fired at enemy troops
DD Frazier fired at enemy troops
DD Laffey fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Tabiteuea (137,134)

TF 343 troops unloading over beach at Tabiteuea, 137,134

Allied ground losses:
328 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 106 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 27 (2 destroyed, 25 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)

14 troops of a USMC 43 Rifle Squad accidentally lost during unload of 1st Marine Div /2
81mm M1 Mortar accidentally lost during unload of 22nd Marine Rgt
12 troops of a M1917 MMG Section lost from landing craft during unload of 33rd Infantry Div /1
20mm Mk4 Oerlikon lost overboard during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force
15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force /7
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 33rd Infantry Div /5
15 Naval Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 1st Fleet Advn Base Force /8
15 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 22nd Marine Rgt /5
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 1st Marine Div /7
Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 76321 troops, 1329 guns, 957 vehicles, Assault Value = 2642

Defending force 35810 troops, 286 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 923

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 858

Japanese adjusted defense: 696

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5


Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1749 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 145 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 68 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
8601 casualties reported
Squads: 612 destroyed, 305 disabled
Non Combat: 206 destroyed, 132 disabled
Engineers: 202 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 168 (114 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 282 (169 destroyed, 113 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
25th Infantry Division
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
1st Marine Div /8
3rd Marine Division
767th Tank Battalion
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
763rd Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
112th Cavalry Regiment
24th Infantry Division
22nd Marine Regiment
33rd Infantry Div /9
225th Field Artillery Battalion
55th Coastal Artillery Battalion
1st Fleet Advn Base Force
3/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
1st Pioneer Battalion
1st US Naval Construction Battalion
46th US Naval Construction Battalion
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
1/593rd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
42nd MAG
21st Base Group
249th Field Artillery Battalion
12th Marine Defense Battalion
15th Marine Defense Battalion
7th USN Naval Construction Regiment

Defending units:
7th Indpt SNLF Coy
46th Division
2nd ADU Coastal Gun Regiment
43rd Division
3rd Naval Pioneer Battalion
2nd JNAF AF Unit
12th Air Flotilla
5th Naval Construction Battalion
16th JNAF AF Unit

SL is ONLY 40k and he is way, way over!! I hope he learns how to conduct invasions real soon. <wink> [:-]


Notes:
D4Y4 Judy to 3/44

Screen shot - I've removed Judy & Jill from two of my Shokaku-kai CVs and added 2 x 45 plane George groups. Going fighter heavy as I've ordered my Judy & Jill to stand down. Plans are to move down to off Ocean Is. next turn, if still present, I'll order 2 x SC TF to Full Spd to hit his TFs at Tabiteuea. The turn after will be KB moving in provide LRCAP over a third SC TF formed from KBs screen.

The four Kongos with DDs are now two days north of Truk after finishing upgrades.

I have 6 CV and 3 CVL less than 10 days until upgrades completed at Yokohama. Once they join KB in month, I'll go after DS.


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