BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
@DOCUP, if you have all his maps, I would not mind a copy. The version I use is not the exact version I prefer, although all are gorgeous.
And thanks. We will see how the turn went.
And thanks. We will see how the turn went.
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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
A taste of the turn to whet your palate. I only have the combat report.
Day Time Surface Combat, near Semarang at 55,100, Range 16,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CVL Ryujo
CVL Shoho, Shell hits 2, on fire
CVL Zuiho, Shell hits 1
CS Mizuho, Shell hits 1
CS Chitose
CS Chiyoda
BC Chichibu, Shell hits 1
CVL Tokachi
CVL Kushiro
CA Takao, Shell hits 2
CA Atago, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 1
DD Usugumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
Allied Ships
BC Renown, Shell hits 19, on fire
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 1
CL Danae, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Vampire, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 1
DD Kortenaer
DD John Barry
Renown is probably sunk or will sink soon. But the few shots on the IJN flat tops make it almost worth it... I hope
Day Time Surface Combat, near Semarang at 55,100, Range 16,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu
CVL Ryujo
CVL Shoho, Shell hits 2, on fire
CVL Zuiho, Shell hits 1
CS Mizuho, Shell hits 1
CS Chitose
CS Chiyoda
BC Chichibu, Shell hits 1
CVL Tokachi
CVL Kushiro
CA Takao, Shell hits 2
CA Atago, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 1
DD Usugumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
Allied Ships
BC Renown, Shell hits 19, on fire
CA Houston, Shell hits 1
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 1
CL Danae, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Vampire, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 1
DD Kortenaer
DD John Barry
Renown is probably sunk or will sink soon. But the few shots on the IJN flat tops make it almost worth it... I hope
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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Tough luck on the gunnery die rolls.
I would have expected Renown and Houston to perform better against a single BC screening all those carriers.
I would have expected Renown and Houston to perform better against a single BC screening all those carriers.
Hans
RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Aye, me too. Problem is, I now have a very damaged BC, and the CVs are going to have a field day. Them be the breaks, I guess.ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Tough luck on the gunnery die rolls.
I would have expected Renown and Houston to perform better against a single BC screening all those carriers.
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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Not sure she would go down, no hits below the water line? engine damage? Fires maybe light.......
RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Dec 13th, 1941:
The battlecruiser did survive the encounter, but it will not survive the airstrikes I am affraid. I do not have assets close enough to scare the CVs away, sadly. Here is the current status:

The battlecruiser did survive the encounter, but it will not survive the airstrikes I am affraid. I do not have assets close enough to scare the CVs away, sadly. Here is the current status:

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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Also, there is an enemy SCTF with a reported 2xBC+2CA in it a few hexes away. I do not know if it is the damaged enemy ships, or if it is reinforcements. If it is the last, Not much that I can do.


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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
I would think about using flank, I think she can handle it for a day.
RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
1. At the beginning of the turn, the following bases were short (of double monthly requirements) on supply:
--- Bacolod Supply Short 111
--- Iloilo Supply Short 97
--- Tacloban Supply Short 96
--- Georgetown Supply Short 198
--- Victoria Supply Short 8572
--- Changsha Supply Short 7098
--- Changteh Supply Short 2488
--- Nanyang Supply Short 51
--- Pakhoi Supply Short 184
--- Tsiaotso Supply Short 2133
The supply situation improved slightly again. Tracker helps tons to keep tabs on things.
2. At the beginning of the turn, the following industries lacked raw materials:
--- Melbourne oil for refinery Short 330
--- Komsomolsk oil for refinery Short 800
--- Manila resources for HI Short 732
--- Hong Kong resources for HI Short 4375
--- Calcutta resources for HI Short 10625
--- Kunming resources for HI Short 1584
--- Georgetown resources for LI Short 475
--- Hong Kong resources for LI Short 4375
--- Calcutta resources for LI Short 10625
--- Melbourne resources for LI Short 7992
This mod has been tightened on initial oil and resources, it seems. It will take a bit more time to get everything rolling.
3. Only one base was lost: Aparri. Sadly, that tempo will not last.
4. Naval losses increased again. My idea for seeking combat against the carrier TF was to make John a bit more cautious. We will see if it worked, although I do not have high hopes.
--- DD Vampire
--- AP Henderson
--- TK Sunchaser
--- xAKL Chengtu, xAKL Kanchow, xAKL Jade, xAKL Kanlaon II
--- xAK Demosthenes, xAK Hanyang, xAK Havildar, xAK Ming Sang, xAK Ravnaas, xAK Katrina Luckenbach, xAK Barbara Olson, xAK Sataria, xAK Dorothy Philips
The tanker and troop transport will be missed.
5. According to Tracker, these were the plane losses for the turn:
--- P-40E Warhawk 7
--- Ki-32 Mary 7
--- P-40B Warhawk 3
--- A6M2 Zero 2
--- E13A1 Jake 2
--- Ki-21-IIa Sally 2
--- DC-2 1
--- Buffalo I 1
--- Hudson I 1
--- B5N2-C Kate 1
--- G4M1 Betty 1
--- H6K4 Mavis 1
--- Ki-43-Ib Oscar 1
Total losses for the turn are reported as 17 Japanese for 13 Allied. Total losses so far are reported as 211 Japanese for 209 Allied. for some odd reason, the difference in airframe losses is not that great... yet.
6. Turn 6 saw a net loss of 151 VP.
These are the things that are in my mind right now:
A. KB is still off the grid. Not much I can do about it, except to keep out of its way. Hopefully it will surface where it can't do much damage.
B. I will try one more time to catch the carriers in the DEI. I do not have much hope, though.
C. Palembang has been invaded. It won't last long.
D. Singapore's Strategic situation continues to be complicated. The paradrop was something I will have to take notes of... in case I need to do something similar in a future game.

--- Bacolod Supply Short 111
--- Iloilo Supply Short 97
--- Tacloban Supply Short 96
--- Georgetown Supply Short 198
--- Victoria Supply Short 8572
--- Changsha Supply Short 7098
--- Changteh Supply Short 2488
--- Nanyang Supply Short 51
--- Pakhoi Supply Short 184
--- Tsiaotso Supply Short 2133
The supply situation improved slightly again. Tracker helps tons to keep tabs on things.
2. At the beginning of the turn, the following industries lacked raw materials:
--- Melbourne oil for refinery Short 330
--- Komsomolsk oil for refinery Short 800
--- Manila resources for HI Short 732
--- Hong Kong resources for HI Short 4375
--- Calcutta resources for HI Short 10625
--- Kunming resources for HI Short 1584
--- Georgetown resources for LI Short 475
--- Hong Kong resources for LI Short 4375
--- Calcutta resources for LI Short 10625
--- Melbourne resources for LI Short 7992
This mod has been tightened on initial oil and resources, it seems. It will take a bit more time to get everything rolling.
3. Only one base was lost: Aparri. Sadly, that tempo will not last.
4. Naval losses increased again. My idea for seeking combat against the carrier TF was to make John a bit more cautious. We will see if it worked, although I do not have high hopes.
--- DD Vampire
--- AP Henderson
--- TK Sunchaser
--- xAKL Chengtu, xAKL Kanchow, xAKL Jade, xAKL Kanlaon II
--- xAK Demosthenes, xAK Hanyang, xAK Havildar, xAK Ming Sang, xAK Ravnaas, xAK Katrina Luckenbach, xAK Barbara Olson, xAK Sataria, xAK Dorothy Philips
The tanker and troop transport will be missed.
5. According to Tracker, these were the plane losses for the turn:
--- P-40E Warhawk 7
--- Ki-32 Mary 7
--- P-40B Warhawk 3
--- A6M2 Zero 2
--- E13A1 Jake 2
--- Ki-21-IIa Sally 2
--- DC-2 1
--- Buffalo I 1
--- Hudson I 1
--- B5N2-C Kate 1
--- G4M1 Betty 1
--- H6K4 Mavis 1
--- Ki-43-Ib Oscar 1
Total losses for the turn are reported as 17 Japanese for 13 Allied. Total losses so far are reported as 211 Japanese for 209 Allied. for some odd reason, the difference in airframe losses is not that great... yet.
6. Turn 6 saw a net loss of 151 VP.
These are the things that are in my mind right now:
A. KB is still off the grid. Not much I can do about it, except to keep out of its way. Hopefully it will surface where it can't do much damage.
B. I will try one more time to catch the carriers in the DEI. I do not have much hope, though.
C. Palembang has been invaded. It won't last long.
D. Singapore's Strategic situation continues to be complicated. The paradrop was something I will have to take notes of... in case I need to do something similar in a future game.

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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
I would think about using flank, I think she can handle it for a day.
Didn't think of that. Thanks!
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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Jorge,
Can you include where the Allied carriers and hybrids are each turn? You have them and John knows about what starts in SoPac, so he will be careful down there.
PBYs - I hope you are shuttling them from USA to Dutch Harbor to Midway and beyond before he grabs Midway. He will use that base for his fleet subs to patrol off USA.
Can you include where the Allied carriers and hybrids are each turn? You have them and John knows about what starts in SoPac, so he will be careful down there.
PBYs - I hope you are shuttling them from USA to Dutch Harbor to Midway and beyond before he grabs Midway. He will use that base for his fleet subs to patrol off USA.
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum
Jorge,
Can you include where the Allied carriers and hybrids are each turn? You have them and John knows about what starts in SoPac, so he will be careful down there.
PBYs - I hope you are shuttling them from USA to Dutch Harbor to Midway and beyond before he grabs Midway. He will use that base for his fleet subs to patrol off USA.
1. I will post the location of the USN CVs as soon as I get the turn back, which should be tonight. I will also write about the ideas I have to use them.
2. I did not know they could fly from Dutch Harbour to Midway. Thanks!!!
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RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Zulu, Kitakami, sorry I went on vacation and forgot about ChemKids maps. I am trying to upload them to my dropbox account. If I can't I'll PM you for your emails.
RE: BTS/BTSL against John 3rd: What was Kitakami thinking?!?!?!?
Here's the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4x7a1687bc1sp ... d.zip?dl=0
If it doesn't work let me know.
If it doesn't work let me know.



