Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:32 pm

D-Day began with some trepidation, but also some unexpected moves by the IJN.

The large TF at Nagasaki moved to Fusan and hit the TF I'd just raced in there before it could disband. Some very large transports were hit, but only a couple sunk, and this led to some very unexpected and positive results elsewhere, in more important areas. [;)]

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:46 pm

This move by the IJN would usually make this a very bad day for the Allies. Instead, the unintended feint here of bringing in this TF meant nothing was guarding Nagasaki.

Before anything else though the USN strike planes went on another nighttime KB hunt. A lot of drops from DBs and TBs, plus some by Cats, but no hits. Their DL is high though and I just realised that with no mines at Shimonoseki I can send subs into the inland sea.

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:50 pm

The USN tangled with the IJN BBs before they left the Fusan area. Not a bad result, getting a few hits, and only one CL injured. It'll disband to get some work at Fusan.

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:13 pm

The result of no defence at Nagasaki was this. I sent in two BB TFs to bombard and hopefully take out the IJN defenders as well as damaging the airfields. Instead, the BBs go in untouched and the airfields are decimated.
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Night Naval bombardment of Nagasaki/Sasebo at 102,58

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 31 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 destroyed on ground
J2M2 Jack: 13 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed on ground
G4M1 Betty: 28 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 6 damaged
Ki-46 KAI Dinah: 2 damaged
Ki-46 KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed on ground
H6K4 Mavis: 3 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts
BB Washington
BB North Carolina

Japanese ground losses:
709 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 17
Runway hits 13

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Massachusetts
BB Massachusetts firing at 61st Division
BB Washington firing at 61st Division
BB North Carolina firing at Nagasaki/Sasebo
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obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:16 pm

And again ...
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Night Naval bombardment of Nagasaki/Sasebo at 102,58

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
J2M2 Jack: 19 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 2 destroyed on ground
G4M1 Betty: 24 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 78 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed on ground
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
CM Ishizaki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico
BB Oklahoma
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
310 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 1

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB New Mexico
BB New Mexico firing at Nagasaki/Sasebo
BB Oklahoma firing at Nagasaki/Sasebo
BB Colorado firing at 61st Division
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obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:24 pm

A lot of sweeps hit Karume, Kummamoto, Nagasaki and Fukuoka during the day, getting very good results. Almost no CAP came up at Nagasaki.

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Morning Air attack on Kurume , at 103,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 34
J2M2 Jack x 17
Ki-27b Nate x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 22000 feet

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obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:27 pm

This comes next. The fields are beyond wrecked and by the end of the day no planes are left at Nagasaki.
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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 3
Wellington Ic x 3
Wellington GR.VIII x 3
Hudson III (LR) x 12
Mitchell II x 3
Kittyhawk I x 19
B-17E Fortress x 26
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D Liberator x 42
B-24D1 Liberator x 18
B-25C Mitchell x 57
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
P-39D Airacobra x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed on ground
J2M2 Jack: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 destroyed on ground
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed on ground
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed on ground
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46 KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 66

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson III (LR) bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Canoerebel · Post by **Canoerebel** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:30 pm

ORIGINAL: obvert

This comes next. I beyond wrecked and no planes are set everything to hit Nagasaki. But the end of the day the fields are left.

Possibly the most incomprehensible sentence ever penned in an AAR. [:D]

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:36 pm

Only one air strike arrives during the entire turn. This small group of Vals hits the TFs at Kummamoto. It's the first moment in the turn when I know for sure that the invasion has made the target.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kumamoto at 102,59

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 19

Allied aircraft
Martlet IV x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 7
F2A-3 Buffalo x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
PG Charleston
DMS Dorsey
CVE Long Island

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:36 pm

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

ORIGINAL: obvert

This comes next. I beyond wrecked and no planes are set everything to hit Nagasaki. But the end of the day the fields are left.

Possibly the most incomprehensible sentence ever penned in an AAR. [:D]

Haha!

Another great auto-correct moment, which I seem proficient in creating.

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:42 pm

Finally I get confirmation. Tha invasion of Japan is going in!

The CD guns do their work but Detroit, a few escorts and the AMCs embedded take most of the damage and leave the transports to do their work. [:)]
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Pre-Invasion action off Kumamoto (102,59) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

274 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Detroit, Shell hits 14, on fire
PG Charleston, Shell hits 24, on fire
AMC Prince Robert, Shell hits 4, on fire
AMC Prince Henry, Shell hits 5, on fire
xAK Gard, Shell hits 3, on fire
DE Express
xAK Troja, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
PG Hindustan
PC Jumna
PC Haida
SC PC-1077
AMC Hector
CVE Long Island

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CL Detroit firing at Tachibana-wan Fortress
Tachibana-wan Fortress firing at CL Detroit

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Amphibious Assault at Kumamoto (102,59)

TF 223 troops unloading over beach at Kumamoto, 102,59

Allied ground losses:
158 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Stuart I Lt Tank lost overboard during unload of 255th Armoured Bde /1
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obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:51 pm

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Kummamoto is under siege!

Troops land so incredibly undisturbed it feels too easy. I know the next turn could be quite different. I somehow surprised Lowpe with this move and no meaningful escorted air strikes from LBA or KB arrived, the IJN went the wrong way, and ground troops are minimal. There was no auto-bombardment, but there are only ~8k troop here, so it's very likely the Allies will take the base next turn.

The incredibly low disruption and fatigue along with the huge number of almost complete units are astounding for this time of game. These were landed primarily with AP/AK, no AGCs with amphibious Force HQs, no LSD/LST/LCI. I'm shocked.

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:54 pm

Here are the air losses. For the next I'll be hitting several other small fields in the area to try and minimise return strikes. I can see he has a lot of bases with 50 fighters and 60-70 bombers in them. Plus Hiroshima with 250/200.

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:11 pm

The current situation has about 150 ships at Kummamoto, but only about 10 surface combat ships. Those are all one hex to the SW, one hex off of Nagasaki as well.

The IJN BBs ended up back at Nagasaki, and will have full ammo, and that is a problem. My BBs are moving to Amami Oshima to replenish but won't be involved until after next turn. I have a lot of cruisers, but they're not in the invasion hex. They'll move there immediately, as will the CVs, but if Lowpe goes all-in with his remaining assets this could be very dicey. It's one thing to land, it's another to hold the landing and be able to replenish and supply it.

BBfanboy · Post by **BBfanboy** » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:33 pm

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

ORIGINAL: obvert

This comes next. I beyond wrecked and no planes are set everything to hit Nagasaki. But the end of the day the fields are left.

Possibly the most incomprehensible sentence ever penned in an AAR. [:D]

Haha!

Another great auto-correct moment, which I seem proficient in creating.

I don't know if the spell-checker is part of the forum software or part of Win 10, but it does an incredibly stupid thing when you click on the first window to add a word to the dictionary or replace the one you mistyped, it immediately opens another window where the first was and has the cursor set over the "Paste" command.
So if your left mouse button is touchy like mine and often clicks twice instead of once, it uses the extra click to paste whatever was on your clipboard into the word you are correcting or adding to your dictionary. Now, because your mouse button is touchy, it is very hard to highlight the unwanted text and delete it! [:@][:@]

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:34 pm

The next turn began with the continued unloading at Kummamoto. That was a good start. Nothing arrived before more troops and much needed supply landed.

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Invasion Support action off Kumamoto (102,59) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

186 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Detroit, on fire
DD Allen, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMC Hector, Shell hits 2
AMC Worcestershire, Shell hits 3, on fire
AMC Chitral, Shell hits 4, on fire
AMC Monowai, Shell hits 2
PG Hindustan
PC Jumna
SC PC-1077
PG Charleston, on fire
DE Express

Japanese ground losses:
194 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Tachibana-wan Fortress firing at DD Allen
DD Allen firing at Tachibana-wan Fortress
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But then ...

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:39 pm

... the IJN arrived in force. This is what I'd feared, and to see them hit this small DD TF first was a bit of a worry, since that meant my other, better TFs hadn't yet arrived.

One of these old four-stackers was hit and left with heavy fires, but both managed to get away in the murky thunderstorm night with only 2k visibility. This was an important factor in what came next!

obvert · Post by **obvert** » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:49 pm

At this point the USN showed up in force, and I breathed a sigh of relief. Not that this was a good matchup on paper, but these CAs do very well. The battle starts in low visibility and so the forces are 2k away from each other. The IJN gains no advantage from their longer range guns, and suffer from the faster firing, more accurate guns of the USN.

In the end Wichita takes a few direct hit and is damaged enough to disband into an escort TF. The Kirishima though is also crippled, and also forms a new TF, which is great for subsequent battles.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
CL Tama, Shell hits 1
CL Kitakami
DD Kazegumo
DD Onami
DD Ariake
DD Uzuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Matsukaze

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2
CA Wichita, Shell hits 6, on fire
DD Conway, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Cony, Shell hits 3
DD Jenkins
DD LaVallette, Shell hits 1
DD Saufley, Shell hits 1

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
BB Kirishima engages CA Wichita at 2,000 yards

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obvert · Post by **obvert** » Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:58 pm

The next battle was dicey. The foxes got in with the hens, and there are a lot of very important hens here. Critically, the Allied radar picked them up at 9k and the 1k visibility allowed the task force to suspend operations and begin to get underway.

BB Fuso and two DDs do make it in and shoot up most of the already damaged escorts. I have BB Mississippi arriving here with four DDs to add on, but she didn't make it in time for this one. CL Detroit, CVE Long Island and a DD and DE go down, and AMC Chitral is in trouble. That's it though, which is amazing considering the amount of very precious ships that are here.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kumamoto at 102,59, Range 1,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet IV: 4 destroyed
F2A-3 Buffalo: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 5
DD Tachikaze
DD Yugao

Allied Ships
CVE Long Island, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CL Detroit, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Allen, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DE Electra, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
DE Express
APD Manley
APD Little
APD Stringham
APD Crosby
APD Kilty
APD Brooks
DMS Boggs
DMS Dorsey
DMS Long
DMS Hovey
AM Starling
AP Harris
AP Zeilin
APA J. Franklin Bell
AP W.A. Holbrook
AP Leonard Wood
AP Hunter Liggett
AP American Legion
APA Heywood
AP Fuller, heavy damage
AP William P. Biddle
AP John Penn
AP U.S. Grant
AP McCawley
AP Henderson
AP President Jackson
AP President Adams
AP President Hayes
AP President Monroe
AP President Polk
AP Crescent City
APA Arthur Middleton
AP George Clymer
AK Bellatrix
AK Libra
AK Fomalhaut
AK Betelgeuse
AK Alhena
AK Titania
AK Almaack
AK Electra
AK Mercury
AK Oberon
AK Procyon, Shell hits 8
AK Castor
SC PC-1077
AM Daring
PG Charleston, on fire
PC Haida
PC Jumna
PC Sutlej
PG Hindustan
AMC Chitral, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 92% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 92% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Kinoshita, Mitsuo crosses the 'T'
AMC Cornwallis collides with AP William P. Biddle at 102 , 59
DD Yugao engages CVE Long Island at 1,000 yards
DD Yugao engages CVE Long Island at 1,000 yards
CL Detroit engages DD Yugao at 1,000 yards
DD Tachikaze engages CL Detroit at 1,000 yards
DD Yugao engages AK Procyon at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
AK Oberon collides with AP John Penn at 102 , 59
CVE Long Island sunk by BB Fuso at 2,000 yards
DD Allen engages DD Tachikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Tachikaze engages DD Allen at 2,000 yards
DD Allen sunk by BB Fuso at 2,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DE Express at 2,000 yards
DE Electra sunk by BB Fuso at 2,000 yards
BB Fuso engages AMC Chitral at 2,000 yards
BB Fuso engages PG Hindustan at 2,000 yards
BB Fuso engages PG Charleston at 2,000 yards
BB Fuso engages AMC Chitral at 2,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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HansBolter · Post by **HansBolter** » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:00 pm

Almost like a walk down memory lane for me.

I also got ashore first at Kummomoto. What's different is that my invasion occurred 20 months later than yours, the Russians were still long way from having cleared Korea and I scooped up all of the barrier islands before landing on Kyushu.

In may game the AI left Matsuyama (adjacent to Hiroshima) empty so I took it by air landing getting a quick foothold on Honshu.

Both Uleungdo and Oki Shoto could possibly be taken by air assault.

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