Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
Well, of course nippon is used. I'm talking specifically about nipponese. Like if you put it in a newspaper today, would there be an outcry? But we digress, back to the game.
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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
how bad is the damage at PH?
I bet all BBs survived
I bet all BBs survived
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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
ORIGINAL: Anachro
I wonder if the term "nipponese" would be considered racist to use nowadays. It's simply taking the actual Japanese word for Japan (Nippon, Nihon can also be used) and adding "ese" onto the end of it. In a way, that's more culturally contextual than the Portuguese bastardization of Nippon to Jippon to Japan in the 17th century.
In short, yes.
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
Well then, nip the Nips now that war is started.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”


RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
When I was a kid and read extensively on WWII, I was familiar with the term "Nips" for the Japanese. It was confusing to me when one of the Canadian burger restaurant chains called its burgers "Nips", "Big Nips", "Cheese Nips", etc. I was wondering what the connection was between hamburgers and the Japanese? And don't tell me they were both part of the Axis! Why single out Hamburg?ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Well then, nip the Nips now that war is started.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
Reminds me of this classic Aus rock song, the nips are getting bigger:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VVnLJQIJw2Y
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VVnLJQIJw2Y
Currently playing my first PBEM, no house rules Scenario 1 as IJ.
AAR link (no SolInvictus): https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4684655
AAR link (no SolInvictus): https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4684655
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
ORIGINAL: Anachro
Well, of course nippon is used. I'm talking specifically about nipponese. Like if you put it in a newspaper today, would there be an outcry? But we digress, back to the game.
Is it really possible to "digress" in an AAR which went 20 pages before the first turn was run?
Alfred
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
When I was a kid and read extensively on WWII, I was familiar with the term "Nips" for the Japanese. It was confusing to me when one of the Canadian burger restaurant chains called its burgers "Nips", "Big Nips", "Cheese Nips", etc. I was wondering what the connection was between hamburgers and the Japanese? And don't tell me they were both part of the Axis! Why single out Hamburg?ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
Well then, nip the Nips now that war is started.
Well, Hamburgers can be quite stupid. One of them put a community on what became one of the world's largest open pit mines. Iron ore mine, that is. He even named the town after himself.
One of my uncles (my aunt married him) said that he was a DP. I wondered why he meant "Dumb Polack" but I did not ask him why he admitted that. Now I know what he meant! He was a nice guy. I only met him a couple of times. [:(]
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”


RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
Upcoming leadership changes:
High Priority Changes:
Kimmel (PacFlt), Brooke-Popham (ABDA), Percival (Malaya Army), DeWitt (West Coast), Southern Command will see a switch to free up Brodie Haig, McLeod (Burma Cmd), Broad (Eastern Cmd Calcutta), Heath (III Indian Corp),
High Priority but not sure what the pool looks like:
Blamey (OZ Command) when we get a decent choice.
Lower priority change...
USN Fleet Air West (San Diego). In all truth, probably can live without changing this guy by shuffling groups around.
222 Group RAF Colombo
224 Group RAF Singers -- depends upon game developments
RAAF Sydney -- depends upon available
Most other HQ changes can wait for 2 weeks or longer.
The High Priority changes are some serious PP....but they need to be done. Plus I am not done in China...
I will net over 100 points by early withdaws, so I will need to prioritize who to change first. Malaya originally wasn't on the list, but now with such a heavy focus on Luzon...I feel Singers should be prioritized much higher.
High Priority Changes:
Kimmel (PacFlt), Brooke-Popham (ABDA), Percival (Malaya Army), DeWitt (West Coast), Southern Command will see a switch to free up Brodie Haig, McLeod (Burma Cmd), Broad (Eastern Cmd Calcutta), Heath (III Indian Corp),
High Priority but not sure what the pool looks like:
Blamey (OZ Command) when we get a decent choice.
Lower priority change...
USN Fleet Air West (San Diego). In all truth, probably can live without changing this guy by shuffling groups around.
222 Group RAF Colombo
224 Group RAF Singers -- depends upon game developments
RAAF Sydney -- depends upon available
Most other HQ changes can wait for 2 weeks or longer.
The High Priority changes are some serious PP....but they need to be done. Plus I am not done in China...
I will net over 100 points by early withdaws, so I will need to prioritize who to change first. Malaya originally wasn't on the list, but now with such a heavy focus on Luzon...I feel Singers should be prioritized much higher.
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
https://babylonbee.com/news/infographic-is-something-racistORIGINAL: Anachro
I wonder if the term "nipponese" would be considered racist to use nowadays. It's simply taking the actual Japanese word for Japan (Nippon, Nihon can also be used) and adding "ese" onto the end of it. In a way, that's more culturally contextual than the Portuguese bastardization of Nippon to Jippon to Japan in the 17th century.
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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
ORIGINAL: witpqs
https://babylonbee.com/news/infographic-is-something-racistORIGINAL: Anachro
I wonder if the term "nipponese" would be considered racist to use nowadays. It's simply taking the actual Japanese word for Japan (Nippon, Nihon can also be used) and adding "ese" onto the end of it. In a way, that's more culturally contextual than the Portuguese bastardization of Nippon to Jippon to Japan in the 17th century.
+1
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!

“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”


RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
I wanted to get this up for future reference. China starting supply, Dec 7 pre-turn. I will be really moving it to the mountains, and quite frankly, starving some bases. I really want to encourage yellow asterisks, and in some cases red.
Only two of my future supply depots are even on the list.
The real challenge with China is when the fuel runs out...keeping Lanchow road to Chungking, as long as possible is fairly important. Urumchi is tough to draw from for Japan, we shall see if the Chinese can do it better.
BTW, I am using Kulls v1.4 regions which have been updated for all the new bases. Thank you guys for doing the lifting here.

Only two of my future supply depots are even on the list.
The real challenge with China is when the fuel runs out...keeping Lanchow road to Chungking, as long as possible is fairly important. Urumchi is tough to draw from for Japan, we shall see if the Chinese can do it better.
BTW, I am using Kulls v1.4 regions which have been updated for all the new bases. Thank you guys for doing the lifting here.

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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
I looked around the forums a bit but couldnt find the regions import file , would you mind sharing yours or giving the link to download it Lowpe ? Thanks!
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
ORIGINAL: Evoken
I looked around the forums a bit but couldnt find the regions import file , would you mind sharing yours or giving the link to download it Lowpe ? Thanks!
Alessandro did the work[&o], Kull gave approval. [&o] I haven't checked everything for accuracy...just assuming it is. They are all dot bases...I download the text file, renamed it, and copied it into the appropriate tracker folder.
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4692890#
post 20 or 21.
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
[&o]This is a huge upgrade to Tracker quality of life , thanks to all involved!
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
Tokyo Free Press, Dec 8th, 1941
Imperial Naval, Air and Land forces, acting purely in a defensive manner while on multiple peacekeeping missions throughout the Pacific, were attacked by Allied units without any warning. Minor damage to some Imperial forces were encountered while inflicting substantial damage to the aggessors.
A general mobilization has been ordered by the Emperor to rid the region of the Western colonists and secure the resources to their rightful owners.
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
Opening shots of the war...are by the Allies.[;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
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Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!!
Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-18, hits 5, heavy damage
Allied Ships
AVD Hulbert
AVD Hulbert cannot reach attack position over SSX Ha-18
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Submarine attack near Soc Trang at 56,74
Japanese Ships
xAK Fushimi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
xAK Fushimi Maru is sighted by SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Fushimi Maru
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Submarine attack near Soc Trang at 56,74
Japanese Ships
xAK Fushimi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
xAK Fushimi Maru is sighted by SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Fushimi Maru
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Sub attack near Soc Trang at 56,74
Japanese Ships
xAK Fushimi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 07, 41
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Midget Sub attack inside harbor of Pearl Harbor!!!
Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-18, hits 5, heavy damage
Allied Ships
AVD Hulbert
AVD Hulbert cannot reach attack position over SSX Ha-18
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Submarine attack near Soc Trang at 56,74
Japanese Ships
xAK Fushimi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
xAK Fushimi Maru is sighted by SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Fushimi Maru
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Submarine attack near Soc Trang at 56,74
Japanese Ships
xAK Fushimi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
xAK Fushimi Maru is sighted by SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Fushimi Maru
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Sub attack near Soc Trang at 56,74
Japanese Ships
xAK Fushimi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes
RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
The raid of Pearl Harbor....
Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47
B5N2 Kate x 45
D3A1 Val x 67
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 14 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 24 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 17 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 29 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 114 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 5 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 27 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 3 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 32 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 20 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 13 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 3 damaged
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 18 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 3 destroyed on ground
C-33: 3 damaged
O-47A: 9 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 1
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 1
BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 1
Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 53
Port hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47
B5N2 Kate x 45
D3A1 Val x 67
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 14 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 24 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 17 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 29 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 114 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 5 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 27 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 3 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 32 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 20 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 13 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 3 damaged
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 18 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 3 destroyed on ground
C-33: 3 damaged
O-47A: 9 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 1
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB California, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 1
BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 1
Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 53
Port hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
A rare afternoon attack at Pearl Harbor...
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 98 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
B5N2 Kate x 27
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 13 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 9 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 19 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 5 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 13
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 98 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
B5N2 Kate x 27
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 13 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 9 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 19 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 5 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 13
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RE: Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)
the problem with a divided KB = puny PH strike... you end sinking 0 ships and just a few obsolete planes
you will have them all repair by February or March
you will have them all repair by February or March