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RE: T4

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They also discovered a few hundred flak 88's attached to the units that gladly filled the sky with flak. The sacrifice of half of LRAC's level bombers was probably worth this intel, even though it leaves the air command as a shadow of its former self.

To my knowledge the LW Mixed Flak units have the 88's and they cannot be directly attached to combat units. Someone please correct me if you know otherwise. I believe only light flak can be attached to units.
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RE: T4

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In my StB game with Tyronec I'm able to attach any type of flak unit to my units directly.
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RE: T4

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They also discovered a few hundred flak 88's attached to the units that gladly filled the sky with flak. The sacrifice of half of LRAC's level bombers was probably worth this intel, even though it leaves the air command as a shadow of its former self.

To my knowledge the LW Mixed Flak units have the 88's and they cannot be directly attached to combat units. Someone please correct me if you know otherwise. I believe only light flak can be attached to units.


You can’t attach LW battalions to combat units from what I’ve seen, but there are army mixed flak battalions that you can directly attach. In my post, ‘units’ was referring to both HQ’s and combat units. I found out T6 that he attached heavy flak battalions to his panzers as well.
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RE: T4

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They also discovered a few hundred flak 88's attached to the units that gladly filled the sky with flak. The sacrifice of half of LRAC's level bombers was probably worth this intel, even though it leaves the air command as a shadow of its former self.

To my knowledge the LW Mixed Flak units have the 88's and they cannot be directly attached to combat units. Someone please correct me if you know otherwise. I believe only light flak can be attached to units.


You can’t attach LW battalions to combat units from what I’ve seen, but there are army mixed flak battalions that you can directly attach. In my post, ‘units’ was referring to both HQ’s and combat units. I found out T6 that he attached heavy flak battalions to his panzers as well.

Interesting. All of those heavy flak units were in Africa at the start so he must have moved them over. Thanks for the info.
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RE: T4

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There are 5+ Medium / Heavy regiments of Flak that start or arrive in the first turn in the general Axis reserve.

Plus the LW Medium ones can go in HQ that can get parked adjacent to the interested location.

If someone can forecast massive bombing or air supply on can move HQs in position.

In one of my games I've a good hundred of 88's lurking around Smolensk that is being air supplied by the Soviets.
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RE: T4

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To my knowledge the LW Mixed Flak units have the 88's and they cannot be directly attached to combat units. Someone please correct me if you know otherwise. I believe only light flak can be attached to units.


You can’t attach LW battalions to combat units from what I’ve seen, but there are army mixed flak battalions that you can directly attach. In my post, ‘units’ was referring to both HQ’s and combat units. I found out T6 that he attached heavy flak battalions to his panzers as well.

Interesting. All of those heavy flak units were in Africa at the start so he must have moved them over. Thanks for the info.

I wasn't told not to be here so I assume it was ok to read and post.

No flak was taken from any other Task Force boxes. Plus coming from Africa take 5 turns for units to reach Russia. I would have had to move them turn 1 to receive on turn 6. Far too late to show up for last turn Flak battle.
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RE: T4

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ORIGINAL: jubjub
They also discovered a few hundred flak 88's attached to the units that gladly filled the sky with flak. The sacrifice of half of LRAC's level bombers was probably worth this intel, even though it leaves the air command as a shadow of its former self.

To my knowledge the LW Mixed Flak units have the 88's and they cannot be directly attached to combat units. Someone please correct me if you know otherwise. I believe only light flak can be attached to units.


You can’t attach LW battalions to combat units from what I’ve seen, but there are army mixed flak battalions that you can directly attach. In my post, ‘units’ was referring to both HQ’s and combat units. I found out T6 that he attached heavy flak battalions to his panzers as well.

You can attach them to units.
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RE: T4

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Counter Attacks in the Land Bridge

A couple of heartbreaking losses in the land bridge. The turn 3 loss resulted in a couple of stragglers being eaten to add insult to injury. The top battle was only lost by a single CV [:@]

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Looks like the VVS was idle here. No ground support. Might have helped if you could have swung it.

I was running AS over the battlefield and other fighter planes not on AS. So could have been iffy but well worth a try for GS.
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RE: T6

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Turn 6 Overview

156,000 casualties keeps the Red Army under 3 million men. Can't wait for a turn with losses <100k. It may have to wait until mud season unfortunately. An attack originating from the Smolensk direction cuts off 8 divisions. This just underscores how important Smolensk is, and it makes me so sad to have abandoned it without a fight. It's really just not possible to make an effective push towards Moscow without that city. A few large attacks in the Ukraine with limited progress, and I'm happy to fall back to the next river. A slow push starts back up in the north, likely just trying to keep me honest and prevent reinforcements flowing south.

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Northern Front

Nothing to worry about yet.

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Southern Front

Running away for now. Left a weak spot on the Dnieper south of Kiev, so hopefully the Germans take the bait.

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Bombing FAIL

****ed up my interdiction directives again, which leads to 10x sorties and huge losses. I need to start triple checking these.

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RE: T6

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Western Front

Decent results considering the amount of panzer divisions thrown my way, although it could've been better. 8 divisions encircled and unfortunately, no counter attacking opportunities means they will all be liquidated next turn. Calvary scouted just about every motorized and pazner division facing east, and found some candidates, but nothing seemed like a sure win, so Bobkin's 13th army and tanks hold back for now.

You can see the best targets in the second photo. The soft factor is attachments.

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Reinforcement Schedule

It's a pretty dire situation with not much coming to the reserves for the next few turns. Some of the destroyed units are starting to trickle back, but they start with morale and experience <40, so they're useless for a few turns. I may start trying to bring them to the map earlier to build up combat preparation while their morale recovers. Not sure how that is going to work.

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RE: T7

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Turn 7 Preview

Managed to pull off some nice attacks against overstretched regiments. Really need more of these to get started on that guards progress.



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RE: T7

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Routed? GJ!
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RE: T7

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Routed? GJ!

Yup, he did well. I miscalculated & paid the price. Of course it is easy to beat up on German Regiments early game.
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RE: T7

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In some of my games I even got German -divisions- routed so! Heck even see a -stack- of 1 Division and beyond routed in Summer '41.
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RE: T7

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In some of my games I even got German -divisions- routed so! Heck even see a -stack- of 1 Division and beyond routed in Summer '41.

Depends on your opponent. In this case, I’ll take what I can get.
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RE: T8

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I have been holding out on posting due to the increasingly desperate situation the Red Army faced. Inexplicably, the Germans decided they'd had enough and went home without fulfilling Hitler's ambitions. Regardless, I will recap the past few weeks.

Turn 8: Situation in the center.

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I don't have the screenshot, but I'm pretty sure this is the turn or turn after the Germans encircled a bunch of units around Kiev and the Dniepr. Edit: found it. With the German armor all committed to Kiev, Tolbukhin and Rokossovsky commit several successful counter attacks. These proved to be phyrric victories.

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Shocking loss to the Romanians. Shows how much of a difference good (decent) leaders make. I don't have the screenshot, but I suspect all 5 of those fighter losses were due to OPS. I'm begging for buffs to the Soviet fighters. It's been admitted that ops losses are too high, so the losses have to be made up somewhere else.

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Big problem that starts turn 8 - returning surrendered units. These suck up manpower and don't contribute for at least 4 turns. Edit: oh, that's not what this is showing in this screenshot. I guess this was to show the far east divisions I ordered over.

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Zhukov takes command of Western Front. Shockingly, Pavlov keeps his life (if I recall correctly).

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RE: T9

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Turn 9: Center. I scout out some resting panzer divisions and retreat towards Orel/Tula since the line is thin in that area. Germans cross the river west of Rzhev.

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Turn 9: South. Southwestern Front is missing an infantry army and retreats beyond the Dniepr. At this point, some of the Southern VP cities are starting to bleed off bonus points. Southern Front is beyond the Dniepr, and it's planned to retreat this entire front plus some into the Crimea.

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Turn 9: Center. A huge gap has developed between Central Front and Southwestern Front. The terrain around Bryansk always gives me trouble, so I want to cling to it as long as possible.

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Another example of huge loss/sortie. About 50% on each side, although I would consider this a Soviet 'win'. This is the only way to get decent results as the Soviets. Also, this was an auto-interception. I have really never understood the complaints about auto-interception as it has done a fine job in both this game and my other Axis games. I also don't understand why people think interceptors should be able to intercept in this situation. The entire bombing run would probably be over before the fighters could scramble to the location.

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Soviet Ground Attack. Another feature I don't think is broken.

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Losses: another turn of very high losses. The Axis needs to inflict losses of 150k or more every turn to be competitive IMO. Tank loss ratio is pretty good.

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OOB: Not great. The thing that suffers the most with all of the surrenders is the artillery. My rifle divisions are extremely short on mortars and other basic ground elements compared to other games.

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RE: T9

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There's too many pictures on this page, and it's taking too long to load. I always hate it when that happens as I am reading AAR's, so I'm going to try to get a new page.
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RE: T9

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