Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer)

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Thank you Orm, Axis production seems to be OK now when I know how many oils are going to Italy.

Can anyone tell if I'm doing something wrong. It seems I can't get US full production, one of NY factories refuse to produce even if I have sent 4 resources to those 2 factories.

I have sent all non-oil resources to factories except one from France, but seems like only 24/26 are counted for production. There is same problem oil resources, even if resource is going to factory it does not count.

[Orm]

Try 'clearing' all orders. I think there might be some issue with resources that have been previously traded. And the 'order' that messes things up might not be seen. So the offending resource might look like it has no order, and going to a factory, when in fact it does not, and mess things up. So try and clear resources that has no order as well.

It is just a guess, but it doesn't cost much, except time, to try.

[Orm]

I wanted to check. So I opened the game, and found at least two oil that looked like they were saved in the USA, but had an red CW line in their 'hidden default order'. Clearing these increased US factories producing by one each. (Thus getting US production to full)

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[Centuur]

Try 'clearing' all orders. I think there might be some issue with resources that have been previously traded. And the 'order' that messes things up might not be seen. So the offending resource might look like it has no order, and going to a factory, when in fact it does not, and mess things up. So try and clear resources that has no order as well.

It is just a guess, but it doesn't cost much, except time, to try.

That's not a guess, but a very good advise to get this working again, mr. Orm. The more default and override settings there are, the higher the chance that MWIF might mess up things during production.
The moment you see this happening is the moment to remove all default and override settings and start over on production planning.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

That helped, all seems to be good now.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

EOT Allies

Production
CW 32 BPs (save 6 oil)
US 63 BPs (save 7 oil)
FF 2 BPs
USSR 37 BPs (save 5 oil)

SAS

Allies leave only 1 ship to North Sea
Allies leave CP, TRS and BB Warspite to West Med
Some escorts stay in Atlantic

CA 4 box Tasman Sea
CA 4 box Antipodes
CA 4 box SW Pacific
CA 4 box NZC
CA 4 box S Pacific
CA 4 box Polynesia


RTB

From West Med US fleet to Gib, but 2 BBs to Egypt. One CW FTR2 to Malta.
From North Sea US ships to Scapa Flow, CW ships to Edinburgh, planes to UK.

US 3 empty TRS + 1 AMPH to East Coast
US TRS with INF to Tunisia
US empty TRS to Brazil

CW TRS from east coast with AA gun to Lisbon

Pacific US subs to Brisbane, CW SUB to Adelaide
Coral Sea: NAV2 to 139.197, Hellcat to Port Vila, Boomerang to Port Vila, Beaufort to 142.197
NZC: NAV2 to 138.215, CA to Auckland
Austral: CV + BB to Brisbane, TRS San Diego
Mexican Coast: 2xCV to San Diego
Polynesia: CW CA to Wellington
Tasman Sea: CA to Adelaide

2xBB from West Med head towards Egypt. Do Axis wish to intercept?

[Orm]

2xBB from West Med head towards Egypt. Do Axis wish to intercept?

Yes, please.

Note that this is likely to change the Italian oil use.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

On a 4 intercept fails.

Do you wish to modify oil use? There are 2 CAs on East Med, one of them disorganized.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I believe there is an error in Italian SAS/RTB instructions.

There are 3 subs on CSV.
SAS says 2 subs stay in CSV.
RTB says 2 subs returns to Brest.

[Orm]

I believe there is an error in Italian SAS/RTB instructions.

There are 3 subs on CSV.
SAS says 2 subs stay in CSV.
RTB says 2 subs returns to Brest.

Yes. I am sorry for the error. I had two SUBs returning at first, and then changed it so two stayed. I forgot to change it at both places.

Leave it as you have it. No need to make any changes. (Regardless on how it is)

If it is re-done anyway, then the two SUBs stay in CSV, and one return to Brest.

[Orm]

Do you wish to modify oil use? There are 2 CAs on East Med, one of them disorganized.

Yes, please.

Reorganize the CA in the East Med. But Italy does not use any more oil (than 1.4) for reorg. So I suspect another unit needs to stay disorganized. If so, the CA Eugenio Di Savoia can remain disorganized as well.

I hope that fixes the Italian oil usage.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I believe there is an error in Italian SAS/RTB instructions.

There are 3 subs on CSV.
SAS says 2 subs stay in CSV.
RTB says 2 subs returns to Brest.

Yes. I am sorry for the error. I had two SUBs returning at first, and then changed it so two stayed. I forgot to change it at both places.

Leave it as you have it. No need to make any changes. (Regardless on how it is)

If it is re-done anyway, then the two SUBs stay in CSV, and one return to Brest.

2 subs stay in CSV, that is the situation now.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Oil use
CW reorg all for 3,95 oil
FF reorg all for 0,7 oil from CW
US reorg all for 3,9 oil
USSR reorg all for free


Production

CW scraps Netherland fighter

CW 32
2x INF
INF HQ
MECH
2x FTR2
FTR3
CVP1
3x Pilot
Sub repair
CA repair

FF 2
Pilot

US (63)

US lend lease P-39Q to USSR

4xCVfd (8)
2xCP (2)
6xPIL (12)
LND4 (4)
2xCVP1 (2)
2xFTR2 (4)
FTR3 (3)
SUBfd (1)
HQI (5)
MAR (5)
ARM marine div (4)
ARM (6)
AA (5)
MTNDIV (2)

USSR (37)
4xPIL (8)
LND3 (3)
LND2 (2)
3xFTR2 (6)
ARM(6)
MECH (5)
2xINF (6)
Save 1 BP


Reinforcements

CW
TRS Edinburgh
ARM Edinburgh
INF Southampton
INF Hull
2x FTR2 Southampton
FTR2 London
FTR2 Auckland


US put PIL into P-47C, P-51D, P-63A, F6F-3 (6 ftr), B-24D, TBF-1 (4-4-2 cvp1)
HQA - USEC
MTN+INF USEC
AMPH USEC
LND4 Boston
F6F-3 Intrepid San Diego
TBF-1 San Diego
P-63A USEC
P-47C USEC
P-51D San Diego
remove PIL (CVP1 light blue F4F-3 San Diego)

USSR
All 4 FTRs arriving get PIL
5-3 Vologda
8-3 Gomel
Spitfire d-town
MIG-7 Gomel
Yak-7DI Smolensk
P-39I Vladivostok


Trade
US 1 non-oil res to UK (from France)
CW stops sending BP to USSR


Initiative 2-8 for Allies. Allies go first. Summer is here!

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I turned out difficult for the Allies to negotiate what to do our time zones and personal lives. We managed to have a short call today and we know (most likely) which actions are going to take.

I have said this before and I say it again. I feel that in this game the most challenging thing is action limits. Right now I would like to use all actions from US and CW allowed by combined action on North Sea area. And West Med too. And JJ would like to do something in the Pacific also. I really would like to use 2 O-Chits (which we don't have) for super combined actions to do all naval moves to protect convoys and send land units over seas, all air moves to protect supply chains for bridgeheads and land moves to attack. But one can't have all. So we must decide if do one part now and next part on impulse 3 or do everything we want in one small area.

Decision is made, NWEHQ (North West European Headquarter) and MHQ (Mediterranean Headquarter) staff are working overtime to create waterproof plan how to attack left and right, and same time defend current positions. That would be much easier without action limits

[Mayhemizer_slith]

CW, US and FF naval, USSR land

Naval air
CW FTR2 to North Sea box 3. CW sends their brand new Tempest (A2A factor 9) to control the skies on North Sea.
US 2x FTR2 and CW FTR3 to West Med box 3


Naval (TRS/AMPH moves underlined)

FF
CA to North Atlantic box 4
CA to Central Atlantic box 4
BB to CSV box 1
CA from Caribbean to North Atlantic box 0
CA to Mouths of Amazon box 4

TRS to West Med box 3 loading US MTN from Gib


CW
CP to Mouths of Amazon
CP to CSV
CA to Caribbean Sea box 4
CVL to Faeroes Gap box 0
CA to North Atlantic box 4
CVL CVB box 3
CA to Gulf of Guinea box 4
CA to Faeroes Gap box 4
CA to BoB box 4

CA to Arabian Sea box 4
CA to Persian Gulf box 4
BB to Red Sea box 3
CA to West Indian Ocean box 4

To West Med box 3 3xBB and CA
From West Med box 1 CW BB and TRS to Oran

To North Sea CV, 4xBB, CA, the Queens and MAR from Netherlands and MAR div from UK


US
CA to CSV box 4
CV to CSV box 1
3x BB and CA to West Med box 3
CP from West Med to Gibraltar
MEX CA to Caribbean box 2
BRA BB to Mouths of Amazon box 3

2x AMPH and CA to North Sea loading CW GAR and CW INF from UK
TRS from Tunisia to West Med box 3 loading MAR from France
AMPH loaded with MTN to CSV box 1
TRS loaded with AMR HQ to CSV box 0
TRS from Norfolk with FTR2 to CSV box 1
APMH loaded with INF to North Atlantic box 0
TRS from Brazil with MIL to CSV box 1


From Lisbon CW TRS loaded with US AA gun enters CSV. Will Axis intercept?

[Courtenay]

Whenever I send a new fighter, better than anything else, to air combat, my opponent promptly rolls a 2, 3, 19, or 20, and shoots the thing down.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Please don’t jinx my plane

[Orm]

From Lisbon CW TRS loaded with US AA gun enters CSV. Will Axis intercept?

No. Thank you.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

TRS sails to Bone Algeria with AA gun.

Over to JJ for Pacific.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

There are two sea areas in Europe where Axis can initiate combat, I ask this in advance so that JJ can move on if there is no naval combat.

Do Axis want to fight on North Sea?