Something’s still wrong with refueling decisions made by the game

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Something’s still wrong with refueling decisions made by the game

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Platform: Steam
Build version: v1.1.8.1
Severity: Medium
Annoyance factor: High

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Bitter Emperor, a destroyer attached to the manually controled Strike Force 1 fleet, is low on fuel (175/400). It’s waiting for the fuel tanker attached to the fleet. There are many problems with this situation:
  • Bitter Emperor is currently right beside the Aar 2 mining station, as is the rest of Strike Force 1, where there’s plenty of fuel to fill the ship’s tanks (see first screenshot below).
  • The tanker, as it often happens, is far away from the ship (see second screenshot below).
  • The game knows that Bitter Emperor should refuel at the nearby Aar 2 mining station, as the “Repair and Refuel” button tooltip shows (see third screenshot below).

Bitter Emperor is right beside the Aar 2 mining station, which has plenty of fuel to fill its tanks (the other ships around the station, except the freighter, are also attached to Strike Force 1, and their tanks are already full).
Ship right beside station.png
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The tanker is far away:
How far the tanker is.png
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What’s worst, is that the game “knows” that Bitter Emperor should refuel at the Aar 2 mining station, as demonstrated by the "Refuel and Repair" button’s tooltip:
The game knows where it should refuel.png
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The caslon at the station is mostly reserved, except for 21 units of caslon (can’t post another screenshot). But that doesn’t seem to matter: if I click on the "Refuel and Repair" button, Bitter Emperor fill its tanks almost instantaneously. Which is, from my perspective, what should happen in this case when I click on the button.

But the question is: why doesn’t the game do the same thing by itself, instead of having the ship wait for a far away tanker?
- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
- Tedious is the opposite of fun
- "The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants…giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." – Albert Camus
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Re: Something’s still wrong with refueling decisions made by the game

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Thanks for the report. Have you had a chance to see if this behavior is still in the latest public beta v1.2.0.0?

We also have a new public beta version, hopefully releasing soon, which should address some stability issues.
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Re: Something’s still wrong with refueling decisions made by the game

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MaximKI wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:13 pm Thanks for the report. Have you had a chance to see if this behavior is still in the latest public beta v1.2.0.0?
I don't think so, but it might have happened without me noticing it. There's a lot going on in the game, including some other problems related to refueling. I wanted to post a report on one of those, but when I loaded the save, the problem didn't occurred. I'll continue to pay attention to refueling (and other) problems and post reports as I encounter them. Hope though that I'll be able to play a little in-between reports. ;)
- Imagine how confusing it is to a new player!
- Tedious is the opposite of fun
- "The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants…giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience." – Albert Camus
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Re: Something’s still wrong with refueling decisions made by the game

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Today we released the Stellar update v1.2.0.5. Please give this version a try and let us know if it resolves your issue and improves your game.
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Re: Something’s still wrong with refueling decisions made by the game

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It's like this:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 9#p5149199
and this is in 1.2.0.5 beta.
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