That is exactly what I plan to do. Using the new exe with my older versionRangerJoe wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:31 pmJust copy and move the new .exe file and paste it over the old one. If you want to, just rename the old exe file just in case you want to go back to it. The new/updated scenarios may not work with the older map due to scenario data and AI script changes.Sardaukar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:01 pm I hope that new EXE-file can be used with older map, since I like the map mod I use.
Not a big deal, I have 2 installations, but still.
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Making the last Beta Official
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I imagine that's another reason why you weren't too fond of the new off-map boxes in the beta. Compatible they weren't.Sardaukar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:01 pm I hope that new EXE-file can be used with older map, since I like the map mod I use.
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Well, that was just minor issue. Main issue I had was that new off-map bases had no real functionality nor did they add anything to game (except more supply complexity and micromanagement).Platoonist wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:42 pmI imagine that's another reason why you weren't too fond of the new off-map boxes in the beta. Compatible they weren't.Sardaukar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:01 pm I hope that new EXE-file can be used with older map, since I like the map mod I use.
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If the data is in the same format then it should not cause any problems. I have updated .exe files before with no issues in that regard. Other issues but that is the nature of beta testing.Sardaukar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:41 pmThat is exactly what I plan to do. Using the new exe with my older versionRangerJoe wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:31 pmJust copy and move the new .exe file and paste it over the old one. If you want to, just rename the old exe file just in case you want to go back to it. The new/updated scenarios may not work with the older map due to scenario data and AI script changes.Sardaukar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:01 pm I hope that new EXE-file can be used with older map, since I like the map mod I use.
Not a big deal, I have 2 installations, but still.
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You may get a message saying the new database is different from the one you were using and it will ask if you want to proceed with loading. Just click Yes and let it load. The new data will be used thereafter.
Map data is a different situation. The people having the problem with Abadan and Aden locations must have downloaded and installed the UNOFFICIAL (user created) Extended Map. The new Beta does not use that map, it uses the OFFICIAL stock map and will make some minor changes/corrections for the new Beta. Users will have to delete or archive their Extended Maps (including pwhex map data files) and use the Stock Map or New Stock Map. I am unsure yet whether the minor changes in the new stock map will affect game play enough to make it mandatory with the new 1127 Beta.
Map data is a different situation. The people having the problem with Abadan and Aden locations must have downloaded and installed the UNOFFICIAL (user created) Extended Map. The new Beta does not use that map, it uses the OFFICIAL stock map and will make some minor changes/corrections for the new Beta. Users will have to delete or archive their Extended Maps (including pwhex map data files) and use the Stock Map or New Stock Map. I am unsure yet whether the minor changes in the new stock map will affect game play enough to make it mandatory with the new 1127 Beta.
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I have done some editing on scenarios, but they are minor.
Main ones are reducing DC weapons in E-class IJN ships.
Another is to upgrade Argonaut (I love that sub as minelayer) to use Mk 12 mine later in war. I also remove end dates from mines to keep e.g. Dutch minelaying subs valid in also their mine-warfare role.
And you get message that database is altered, it's never problem. Some edits can be applied also in mid-game.
Main ones are reducing DC weapons in E-class IJN ships.
Another is to upgrade Argonaut (I love that sub as minelayer) to use Mk 12 mine later in war. I also remove end dates from mines to keep e.g. Dutch minelaying subs valid in also their mine-warfare role.
And you get message that database is altered, it's never problem. Some edits can be applied also in mid-game.
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Maybe a more realistic update to the Dutch minelaying subs would be to have them lay American and/or British mines. That is without checking the technical details of the actual size of the mines.Sardaukar wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:01 pm I have done some editing on scenarios, but they are minor.
Main ones are reducing DC weapons in E-class IJN ships.
Another is to upgrade Argonaut (I love that sub as minelayer) to use Mk 12 mine later in war. I also remove end dates from mines to keep e.g. Dutch minelaying subs valid in also their mine-warfare role.
And you get message that database is altered, it's never problem. Some edits can be applied also in mid-game.
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So you're saying size matters RJ, not just how you lay them? The conversion should install tracks that account for size. Total capacity could be adjusted by load cost of the mines.
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The opening going outside of the hull would make the most difference, especially to the time factor involved. Th size and the shape difference could also change the number of mines carried.
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Found this very interesting page about USN naval mines. Apparently the Mk 6 was used until the mid 70s!RangerJoe wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:31 pm The opening going outside of the hull would make the most difference, especially to the time factor involved. Th size and the shape difference could also change the number of mines carried.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMUS_Mines.php
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That would be the one they used when taping "Gilligan's Island".Arkham wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:51 pmFound this very interesting page about USN naval mines. Apparently the Mk 6 was used until the mid 70s!RangerJoe wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:31 pm The opening going outside of the hull would make the most difference, especially to the time factor involved. Th size and the shape difference could also change the number of mines carried.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMUS_Mines.php
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That's what I've heard too!BBfanboy wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:02 pm So you're saying size matters RJ, not just how you lay them?
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Oh yes, if it is too large for the hole then there could be problems!
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Never use Mk 10 if you can use Mk 12. But even that does not matter if strait is too wide... 
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I was just diagnosed w/ terminal cancer. Doc gave me six months to live so I guess I'll never get to play the final patch. 
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Well, surprise the doctor and live! I know people who beat cancer, it can be done.hossjww30 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:45 pm I was just diagnosed w/ terminal cancer. Doc gave me six months to live so I guess I'll never get to play the final patch.![]()
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My father-in-law was given 3 months with liver cancer. 15 years later he died from a heart attack because he kept smoking. God does perform miracles, keep the faith.hossjww30 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:45 pm I was just diagnosed w/ terminal cancer. Doc gave me six months to live so I guess I'll never get to play the final patch.![]()
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No disrespect intended to the people working on this. Hopefully the wait is worth it. This is by far the best wargame I have ever played.
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From mid-January to mid-Year. We must trust in the Endpatch!
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