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Should I continue this game so I can clear out the Japanese completely off of the map? I mean, by wiping out the Japanese young men, that would mean that those geishas and other lovely young ladies might have to look to the Allies for companionship . . . 8-)

Or should the Allies accept peace terms from Japan and send the units from the Pacific to the ETO? I mean, the Indian Army can go to the Med while the other Allied forces can go to the UK, entertaining the ladies while preparing for invading France in the spring of 1943! This way, the western Allies along with Chinese forces can then liberate Poland. :mrgreen:
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It really helps the Chinese when the Allies can ship 2-300,000 supplies to China by unloading them at Hong Kong!
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I just captured Nanking. That might stop the CEA from planning for New Zealand. I would bring in aviation support units along with AA units along with supplies to Hong Kong, send the units to the Shanghai/Nanking area and use the airfields that are connected by railroads for my bombing campaign. I would bomb the armament factories, vehicle factories, airplane factories, and the engine factories in Manchukuo, Korea, and Japan as well as bomb the resources in Japan. This way the enemy air would be even more reduced, any units might have difficulty getting weapons and vehicles. Japan has virtually no oil stocks and should be low on fuel as well.
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I say go the distance and get the whole ball of wax. :twisted:

At least until the last patch arrives.
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Been there - doing that - here's my large Strategic Map. Note that the display of Enemy Units and Bases is ON. What the Japanese have left are unoccupied dot bases at Satawal Island and Lao Cai (N or Hanoi). The latter has an allied unit about to cross into the hex and take it. There is one Japanese Tank Division left with next to 0 AV left and it is just trapped at Kweisui with 2278 AV of allied units and over 7000 guns. My money is on the Allies.
All those horizontal lines of dots going to Prince Rupert, Vancouver/Seattle, SFO, San Diego, and Cape Town are a "Magic Carpet" operation to get aircraft, ships and troops to the UK. Most of the units that have engineers are still in Japan building the bases to maximize VPs (100 for each AF level 50 for each Port level); so mostly artillery, AAA, and light infantry units so far on their way to UK. A few tank units with minimal engineers too, but most are needed for the garrison AV in Japan.
What's the point? I like to imagine Churchill receiving these diverse units and deciding where to allocate them - e.g., BC Repulse has weak AA so instead of the Med, Churchill places her in Scapa Flow to guard against the breakout of Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, German CAs or the Pocket Battleships. Repulse will not be sent to intercept Tirpitz! OTOH, the Atlanta Class CLAAs will be much coveted to help guard the Mediterranean convoys to Malta. And the Coastal Artillery Regiments and Marine Defence Battalions will be spotted at remote spots around the UK to guard against German commando-style raids.
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Platoonist wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:26 pm I say go the distance and get the whole ball of wax. :twisted:

At least until the last patch arrives.
Do you think that I should go to the Japanese side and buy back what I can of the 200+ destroyed Japanese units? I mean, Tokyo might run out of supplies after it has already run out of oil and fuel.
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Just buy back the ones that have Mssrs. Honda, Toyota, Isuzu, Sony, Hitachi, Nikon, Minolta, and Sake!
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BBfanboy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:26 pm Just buy back the ones that have Mssrs. Honda, Toyota, Isuzu, Sony, Hitachi, Nikon, Minolta, and Sake!
Wow. I foresee a game that ends in the 1970s with the nuking of Detroit. Hello Kitty.

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Platoonist wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:20 pm
BBfanboy wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:26 pm Just buy back the ones that have Mssrs. Honda, Toyota, Isuzu, Sony, Hitachi, Nikon, Minolta, and Sake!
Wow. I foresee a game that ends in the 1970s with the nuking of Detroit. Hello Kitty.


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I would buy the units back to kill them again! :twisted:
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RangerJoe wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:22 am I would buy the units back to kill them again! :twisted:
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Scenario 2 . . .

I bought back 200 Japanese units. There is less than 1 million in fuel for the Empire, less than 10k in oil, less than 1k each of Armaments and Vehicles. I do have saves for before and after the buying if someone wants to look at them, ask and you might receive them.

The IJN has only 5 or so CVs and CVLs . . .
The POW did good work on the carriers and an R class sank the Shokaku . . .
This was a bloody turn but not the worst . . .
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Sub attack near Aogashima at 113,66

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage :lol:
BB Kongo
CA Chikuma
DD Minekaze
DD Hatakaze
DD Akayara
DD Ishikaze
DD Susukaze

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

Ammo storage explosion on CV Zuikaku 8-)
Fuel storage explosion on CV Zuikaku 8-)
SS Haddock launches 4 torpedoes at CV Zuikaku
Haddock diving deep ....

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Then . . .
Sub attack near Aogashima at 113,66

Japanese Ships
xAK Shinanogawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1 :lol:
PB Chitose Maru

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

SS Haddock launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Shinanogawa Maru
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The best way to deal with those E class vessels.
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Ic x 14

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Ic: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
E Teiko, Shell hits 2, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Beaufighter Ic bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
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The best way to deal with aircraft carriers. No retaliation, sinking sounds heard . . .

Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 112,72

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryuho, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Musashi
CA Suzuya
CL Abukuma
DD Ushio
DD Kazegumo
DD Kuroyara
DD Suresushio
DD Yugao
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
SS Thresher
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Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 112,72

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryuho, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kuroyara

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

SS Thresher launches 4 torpedoes at CVL Ryuho
Thresher diving deep ....
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This man's father was someone who worked for Al Capone . . .
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An IJN carriier attack on three American CVs with no American response . . .
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kiriwina Island at 104,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
A6M3a Zero x 9
B5N2 Kate x 25
D3A1 Val x 14
D3A2 Val x 14

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 82

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A2 Val: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
CV Yorktown
BB North Carolina
CA San Francisco
BB Indiana

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
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The Yamato, Kongo, and friends decided to visit with Hornet, Yorktown, Wasp, and friends. It reminded me of something to do with American baseball. Read about it . . .
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The Yamato, Kongo, and friends came back. Some of the aircraft visited Port Moresby but I don't understand why some of the Vals dropped bombs at 10k feet.
Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 7
B5N2 Kate x 9
D3A1 Val x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
++++++++++++++
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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The Allied response, somehow I think that losing 6 Wildcats for 2 Zeros was somewhat worth it . . .
I have to check why some Avengers were dropping bombs . . .
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kiriwina Island at 104,130

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M3a Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 73
SBC-4 Helldiver x 18
SBD-3 Dauntless x 72
TBF-1 Avenger x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed
SBC-4 Helldiver: 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 8, on fire
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Yamato, Bomb hits 5, on fire
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Suzuya
DD Yunagi
DD Susukaze, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Minekaze
CL Abukuma
DD Hatakaze
CA Chikuma
DD Yukaze
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RangerJoe wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:31 pm The Yamato, Kongo, and friends came back. Some of the aircraft visited Port Moresby but I don't understand why some of the Vals dropped bombs at 10k feet.
Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 7
B5N2 Kate x 9
D3A1 Val x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
++++++++++++++
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
That was a very small strike from two big carriers - did you already decimate their air groups? That might explain the Vals bombing from 10K - morale issues.
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BBfanboy wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:05 am
RangerJoe wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:31 pm The Yamato, Kongo, and friends came back. Some of the aircraft visited Port Moresby but I don't understand why some of the Vals dropped bombs at 10k feet.
Afternoon Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 7
B5N2 Kate x 9
D3A1 Val x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
++++++++++++++
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
That was a very small strike from two big carriers - did you already decimate their air groups? That might explain the Vals bombing from 10K - morale issues.
I have been defensively shooting down his aircraft but I don't think that there are any large aircraft carriers left other than a damaged Zuikaku. Even reducing the kills by 30% still means a lot of destroyed aircraft. AA units have also done a lot of work for me. An R class sunk the Shokaku, POW sank a few carriers, LBA did a bunch of damage but the Hiryu and Akagi were sunk the next turn. No real offensivie air actions but I have escorted convoys to Manila and Hong Kong.
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