Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Turn 1
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My Goal is to take Leningrad & Sevastopol in the first 9-12 turns while getting as many Soviet POW's as I can during that time frame.
Please realize that I am going to be devoid of PZ/Moto on a great deal of the map so won't be able to do encirclements that much unless I get lucky where I don't have PZ/Moto.
End of Turn
My Goal is to take Leningrad & Sevastopol in the first 9-12 turns while getting as many Soviet POW's as I can during that time frame.
Please realize that I am going to be devoid of PZ/Moto on a great deal of the map so won't be able to do encirclements that much unless I get lucky where I don't have PZ/Moto.
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Turn 2 write up in a day or two
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Enjoying this very much, thanks for the AAR. One request, could you explain your command structure swaps for the army groups? Sounds very interesting but I'm very confused, a bit like STAVKA right now.
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
I will write up some information when I get home from work today. Thank you for asking.
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Very interesting and promising report. I will follow this with interest to see how this will play out.
One question please: You have written that the match is on turn 13. Is there any way in a server game to go back and reload the turns to make the screenshots, or have the screenshots been made while playing turn 1?
I am asking because I am thinking about to do an AAR myself.
One question please: You have written that the match is on turn 13. Is there any way in a server game to go back and reload the turns to make the screenshots, or have the screenshots been made while playing turn 1?
I am asking because I am thinking about to do an AAR myself.
Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Sadly, there is no way to access past turns or screenshots. They are lost forever. It's the downside of Server Games.FriedrichII wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 5:10 pm Very interesting and promising report. I will follow this with interest to see how this will play out.
One question please: You have written that the match is on turn 13. Is there any way in a server game to go back and reload the turns to make the screenshots, or have the screenshots been made while playing turn 1?
I am asking because I am thinking about to do an AAR myself.
You have to have taken screenshots along the way
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Thank you Q-Ball for the information!
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Germans have very few AP's to spend on leader changes(at the beginning of the game), so to get around this I build out the leaders with the best stats to give the best chance at rolls that are existing from the start of the game. I guess you can ask, "Why change out everything out for just one point in two categories on the leader"? Since this is really what it is all about, the two points on Army Group Center's leader and Army Group North leader. Well it is two points and a very small percentage but I am going to grab ahold of it and sink hours into the change for the small percentageTallBlondJohn wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 10:28 am Enjoying this very much, thanks for the AAR. One request, could you explain your command structure swaps for the army groups? Sounds very interesting but I'm very confused, a bit like STAVKA right now.

Last edited by HardLuckYetAgain on Mon Aug 25, 2025 10:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Command Structure by Turn 3 for 2nd Panzer reporting to Army Group Center.
As you can see three (3) panzer Armies fit perfectly under Army Group Center
. And 3rd and 4th follow suit trying to get the best stats in place with existing leaders.
As you can see three (3) panzer Armies fit perfectly under Army Group Center

German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
I really look for good Admin for my leaders. Because by winter you really want your army with great Admin everywhere there is going to be blizzard. And 2nd PZ will be at the front facing the Soviet onslaught since I don't remove my PZ's & Moto off the Map. They stay for the Winter Vacation.
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
And you will notice above ADMIN is stacked 

German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Don't get me wrong. I am not saying ADMIN is the way to go. I am saying ADMIN is what I do and have done since WITE1 as the Germans
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Now since I am going to Leningrad I want my "BEST" air commander in charge of my planes. Hands down there is no contest here between Luft 1 and Luft 2. You be the judge.
So all of my planes will be under Luft2. (By the way I have had the full Luftwaffe on the map pretty much from the beginning of turn 4 or 5 (don't remember and not going to look at the moment, you will find out soon enough))
So all of my planes will be under Luft2. (By the way I have had the full Luftwaffe on the map pretty much from the beginning of turn 4 or 5 (don't remember and not going to look at the moment, you will find out soon enough))
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Just a side note that I always target fighters first and foremost during the bombing.HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:18 am Turn 1
Air Loses
Didn't spend a great deal of time doing air directives. What I bombed and then shot out of the air is good enough with 3,748 Soviets destroyed for the turn. Will be able to take care of them soon enough.
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German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Turn 1 I stick OKH on Berlin and pretty much leave it there for a long time. I have always sent my SU's to OKH and I allocate SU's and send back SU's every turn individually.
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Very helpful tips here HLYA even for us PVE Players, the OKH setup and placement is interesting.HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:02 pm Turn 1 I stick OKH on Berlin and pretty much leave it there for a long time. I have always sent my SU's to OKH and I allocate SU's and send back SU's every turn individually.
OKH in Berlin.png
I'm always trying to get the best out my forces even against the AI

regards
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Turns 1-3ish I have the supply priority set to 2. Starting around turn 4 I set everyone on supply level 3 except for the Rumaninians who are usually not on the main line. That way those SU's are always full up on supplytm1 wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:35 amVery helpful tips here HLYA even for us PVE Players, the OKH setup and placement is interesting.HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:02 pm Turn 1 I stick OKH on Berlin and pretty much leave it there for a long time. I have always sent my SU's to OKH and I allocate SU's and send back SU's every turn individually.
OKH in Berlin.png
I'm always trying to get the best out my forces even against the AI![]()
regards



German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Also on turn one 2 export ports, Danzig and Koensburg. I used to do just one but now I do 2 (if I remember) at a minimum sometimes three. But these are the two I set in the Baltic.
******NOTE********NOTE*********NOTE********* if you don't turn off the other ports, meaning to Zero (0) they will get supply and stockpile. I turn mine off but you are more than free to leave them on but I turn mine to zero to direct the supply to these two since this suppling happens before the main supply and I want my supply to go east, not NW
. Choose wisely
*******NOTE********NOTE********NOTE******** This picture is from a later turn. I forgot to turn both ports on on turn 1 but didn't want to give the wrong impression (Yes, I forgot to do so but want other to remember to do what I forgot) with just one port turned on on turn 1. Again this is a picture from a later turn when I finally turned on Koensburg, sorry for the confusion in the pictures ******NOTE******NOTE*******NOTE*******
******NOTE********NOTE*********NOTE********* if you don't turn off the other ports, meaning to Zero (0) they will get supply and stockpile. I turn mine off but you are more than free to leave them on but I turn mine to zero to direct the supply to these two since this suppling happens before the main supply and I want my supply to go east, not NW















*******NOTE********NOTE********NOTE******** This picture is from a later turn. I forgot to turn both ports on on turn 1 but didn't want to give the wrong impression (Yes, I forgot to do so but want other to remember to do what I forgot) with just one port turned on on turn 1. Again this is a picture from a later turn when I finally turned on Koensburg, sorry for the confusion in the pictures ******NOTE******NOTE*******NOTE*******
Last edited by HardLuckYetAgain on Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:18 am, edited 5 times in total.
German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Again it is up to you if you want to stockpile your supply back there ;-P. Again I turn them to zero (0). Please note that you may have to turn some on sometimes, you will have to figure that out

German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
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Re: Perpetual Desolation - HLYA (German) vs a Soviet Player
Can you imagine all of those ports stockpiling your supply back there?HardLuckYetAgain wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:54 am Ports 2.png
Again it is up to you if you want to stockpile your supply back there ;-P. Again I turn them to zero (0). Please note that you may have to turn some on sometimes, you will have to figure that out![]()





German Turn 1 opening moves. https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=390004
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154
A nice post, thank you K62.
https://forums.matrixgames.com/viewtopi ... 4#p5114154