Soviet special TB values - Flak(low)

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Wiedrock
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Soviet special TB values - Flak(low)

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To me, some of the TB's special CV percentages seem rather missleading for the Soviet side.

Tell me if I am somethign missing, but...neither the AAMGs, nor the build limit for AAMG TOEs is sufficient to achieve those 8%.
I suppose Soviets are missing the 20mm the Germans have and their possible 25mm is completely missing, which could help with the issue I'd assume (whatever defines the values).

The three Soviet TBs (NF,TC,FE) have a combined Ground Need of about ~300TBCV, to give an average. Each TB can have up to 8% of the special TB value as "Flak (low)".

If we take the 300 TBCV needed for 100% and assume we reach them with all the special CV categories (except Night Fighter and Engineers), we need in sum about ~202 Baseline CV (the real CV of Units).
This assumes the complete fullfillment of Flak (low). The Flak (low) percentage for each TB is the same 8%.
Flak low issue TBs.png
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So 8% of 202 base CV is ~16 SCV.
Each DShK at 50MOREX gives about 0.000723 SCV (Special CV), but as it seems MOREX does not play a role in AA TB values.
A PVO AA Regiment gives in sum 0.07SCV with its 108 AAMGs (it rounds down from 0.0781 actually!).
So with that we would need ~228 PVO AAMG Regiments (the limit is ~10-32), the Battalions you also can forget about. So this would require a sheer 228Regiments x 108AAMG = 24624 AAMGs.
To ignore the rounding down we use the 0.000723 SCV per AAMG, so we need about 22130 DShK, just to get the TBs filled without rounding.
At 60MOREX it'd still be the same, as mentioned the AA TB values do not seem to increase with higher MOREX.

The Community already has figured that the current DShK production is only about ~25% of what it should be (40, should at least be 160).
But even with that change the numbers of AAMGs needed in TBs to achieve those 8% is astonishing and even if try-harded, the Units can't be built due to limtis.

So, as said, the percentages seem rather missleading
So for Flak (low) either:
- reducing the percentage (less missleading)
- switching the percentage with Flak (high), so high 2%→8% and low 8%→2% (whatever the intended balance was initially to put it at 8%, it can't be achived for low, but could for high)
- or changing how much AA value AAMGs give in TBs
- or changing 37mm to add to the "low" value (for Soviet side)

The Flak SCV on the UI are containing decimal shift bugs which I have reported here, which messes up those values, I could imagine someone creating those percentages being tricked by big numbers shown which are actually 1/10th of what's shown.
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