Expanded Allied Air HQ
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kentkroeckel
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Turn 75 Allied combat
December 2, 1944.
I have one more hex I will show results to. Brest Peninsula. Second attack took it but there is no BLM of it.
In total, one hex was taken on D-Day. Four hexes on Brest Peninsula.
Allies amassing more units on southern French invasion site.
BLM did not work for Italy. In total four hexes were taken in Italy.
I have one more hex I will show results to. Brest Peninsula. Second attack took it but there is no BLM of it.
In total, one hex was taken on D-Day. Four hexes on Brest Peninsula.
Allies amassing more units on southern French invasion site.
BLM did not work for Italy. In total four hexes were taken in Italy.
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Turn 76 German phase
December 9, 1944.
Victory points: For turn -25 and game total is -261.
Europe air: Cold.
Ground: Light snow.
Snow level is 2-4 and water level is 1-4.
Northern Italy. Air is heavy rain.
Ground is heavy mud.
Water level is 5-9. There will not be many attacks in these conditions.
I purged logs for this turn and air did not load correctly. Went to metrics and it displayed 106 losses for German while Allies lost 76. No idea what type.
Metalist sent Germany's one attack to me by E-mail and that is the one that recorded for Allies. But thank you metalist becasue the system is getting to be a hit and miss with records.
I highlighted a few items in this German attack. To start with, Germany is attacking. Next, there are at least five armored Axis divisions involved, most SS. Over nine hundred armored vehicles for Axis while Allies had over a thousand. 114 were lost by German while Allies lost 360.
D-Day area only had one hex change; Germany withdrew from it due to exposure. It is circled in green.
Italy is the next picture and not much to show. No change and weather will limit Allies on this turn.
Final picture for German phase is ground losses. Allies lost near eight thousand while Germany lost near two thousand two hundred.
Victory points: For turn -25 and game total is -261.
Europe air: Cold.
Ground: Light snow.
Snow level is 2-4 and water level is 1-4.
Northern Italy. Air is heavy rain.
Ground is heavy mud.
Water level is 5-9. There will not be many attacks in these conditions.
I purged logs for this turn and air did not load correctly. Went to metrics and it displayed 106 losses for German while Allies lost 76. No idea what type.
Metalist sent Germany's one attack to me by E-mail and that is the one that recorded for Allies. But thank you metalist becasue the system is getting to be a hit and miss with records.
I highlighted a few items in this German attack. To start with, Germany is attacking. Next, there are at least five armored Axis divisions involved, most SS. Over nine hundred armored vehicles for Axis while Allies had over a thousand. 114 were lost by German while Allies lost 360.
D-Day area only had one hex change; Germany withdrew from it due to exposure. It is circled in green.
Italy is the next picture and not much to show. No change and weather will limit Allies on this turn.
Final picture for German phase is ground losses. Allies lost near eight thousand while Germany lost near two thousand two hundred.
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Turn 76 Allied phase
December 9, 1944.
Germany lost 348 aircraft from air phases while Allies lost 797. This is an advantage of 449 for Luftwaffe. There were near a hundred more losses for Germany during ground combat.
Below is chart for Allied air phase.
Next chart shows ground losses for both sides during Allied combat.
Next picture shows a hex won on Brest Peninsula. Final picture shows the hexes won by Allies. there are six for Brest. The port of Malo has now been isolated. At least for a turn.
Germany lost 348 aircraft from air phases while Allies lost 797. This is an advantage of 449 for Luftwaffe. There were near a hundred more losses for Germany during ground combat.
Below is chart for Allied air phase.
Next chart shows ground losses for both sides during Allied combat.
Next picture shows a hex won on Brest Peninsula. Final picture shows the hexes won by Allies. there are six for Brest. The port of Malo has now been isolated. At least for a turn.
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Turn 76 Allied combat phase
December 9, 1944.
A port was taken on D-Day site. Granville. It took three attacks to get it. Below is this.
Attack one:
Attack two:
Attack three:
Two hexes were taken by Allies and are in red.
In Northern Italy there was only a hex taken so not worth a separate response.
A port was taken on D-Day site. Granville. It took three attacks to get it. Below is this.
Attack one:
Attack two:
Attack three:
Two hexes were taken by Allies and are in red.
In Northern Italy there was only a hex taken so not worth a separate response.
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Re: Expanded Allied Air HQ
Show where the SU is, I do not recall but will they stop at Berlin?
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Soviet Advance
Star date, supplemental. Star Trek humor there.
Great question Mr. Bairdlander2. This is a bit of a letdown when it comes to WitW. Final Russian advance line is not historical. In fact, only one of the three hexes of Berlin is shown as captured. And, the line is several hexes east of the Elbe River, which was the agreed to meeting line for both sides fighting Germany. Playing a historical game, Russia should be up to this point on turn 94 but is not near. I have found this point irritating because much of Germany is free from soviet occupation when in reality, this should not be the case.
A better representation would be for the Allies unable to cross the Elbe river. This is how Hungry, Yugoslavia, and Greece are dealt with. No Allied movement. But I am sure many players would not like it if Allies cannot take Berlin.
In WitW Yugoslavia and Greece are never taken by the Soviets yet Allies cannot enter them either. Yet historically, parts of Yugoslavia were occupied by Russia. Greece was not but that is because Germany pulled out and made a new line at the top (North) of Yugoslavia. This let partisans take control of these two nations in early 1945. As such, they should be converted to Soviet control, for game purposes. Definitely, not left under German control.
Example: I have German air units conducting air missions near the Greek border right now.
WitW did a good job with Austria on its final battle line. It shows the Soviets capturing Vienna in April of 1945. If I remember correct, the line might even go a couple hexes west of that, which is close enough to historical to not cause much of a fuss.
On the first week of 1945 I will do an update of front line for Russia Mr. Bairdlander2.
Great question Mr. Bairdlander2. This is a bit of a letdown when it comes to WitW. Final Russian advance line is not historical. In fact, only one of the three hexes of Berlin is shown as captured. And, the line is several hexes east of the Elbe River, which was the agreed to meeting line for both sides fighting Germany. Playing a historical game, Russia should be up to this point on turn 94 but is not near. I have found this point irritating because much of Germany is free from soviet occupation when in reality, this should not be the case.
A better representation would be for the Allies unable to cross the Elbe river. This is how Hungry, Yugoslavia, and Greece are dealt with. No Allied movement. But I am sure many players would not like it if Allies cannot take Berlin.
In WitW Yugoslavia and Greece are never taken by the Soviets yet Allies cannot enter them either. Yet historically, parts of Yugoslavia were occupied by Russia. Greece was not but that is because Germany pulled out and made a new line at the top (North) of Yugoslavia. This let partisans take control of these two nations in early 1945. As such, they should be converted to Soviet control, for game purposes. Definitely, not left under German control.
Example: I have German air units conducting air missions near the Greek border right now.
WitW did a good job with Austria on its final battle line. It shows the Soviets capturing Vienna in April of 1945. If I remember correct, the line might even go a couple hexes west of that, which is close enough to historical to not cause much of a fuss.
On the first week of 1945 I will do an update of front line for Russia Mr. Bairdlander2.
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Re: Expanded Allied Air HQ
My opinion one of the main reasons for D Day was to prevent the SU from taking all of Germany.
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Turn 77 German phase
December 16, 1944.
Germany did one attack and below is the results. It happened on Brest Peninsula and was an expensive victory for Axis. But this is often the case, every hex being costly for Allied victories too.
Despite weather, Germany was active with the air phase. 151 losses for Luftwaffe while Allies lost 49. Below is chart for this.
Weather is snow over Europe in the Sky. Snow is on the ground. Water level is 3-5 while snow level is 4-7.
Heavy rain in Northern Italy. Ground is heavy mud. Water level is 7-9 while snow level is 1-2.
Germany pulled back on Brest Peninsula, making it possible for this and D-Day to soon link up. Below is picture of area withdrawn by German forces.
Victory point for turn were -21 and game total is -282. Should reach -300 at end of year; minor victory for Germany.
Germany did one attack and below is the results. It happened on Brest Peninsula and was an expensive victory for Axis. But this is often the case, every hex being costly for Allied victories too.
Despite weather, Germany was active with the air phase. 151 losses for Luftwaffe while Allies lost 49. Below is chart for this.
Weather is snow over Europe in the Sky. Snow is on the ground. Water level is 3-5 while snow level is 4-7.
Heavy rain in Northern Italy. Ground is heavy mud. Water level is 7-9 while snow level is 1-2.
Germany pulled back on Brest Peninsula, making it possible for this and D-Day to soon link up. Below is picture of area withdrawn by German forces.
Victory point for turn were -21 and game total is -282. Should reach -300 at end of year; minor victory for Germany.
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Turn 77 Allied phase, Italy
December 16, 1944.
Total air losses for air phases were 227 for Axis while Allies lost 258.
Allies took two hexes in Italy despite the weather. Following is one of them. It was taken in one attack.
Next hex took two attacks. Below is first attack.
Below shows final attack. The three German units routed.
Total air losses for air phases were 227 for Axis while Allies lost 258.
Allies took two hexes in Italy despite the weather. Following is one of them. It was taken in one attack.
Next hex took two attacks. Below is first attack.
Below shows final attack. The three German units routed.
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Turn 77 Allied phase, France
December 16, 1944.
Allies took a port and forced a surrender on Brest Peninsula.
Following is picture of Peninsula. Not all hexes that Germany withdrew from have been occupied.
Next picture is of D-Day.
Final picture is of southern invasion point of France.
Allies took a port and forced a surrender on Brest Peninsula.
Following is picture of Peninsula. Not all hexes that Germany withdrew from have been occupied.
Next picture is of D-Day.
Final picture is of southern invasion point of France.
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Turn 78 Allied phase
December 23, 1944.
Germany did no attacks this turn.
Victory points: Turn -26. Game total is 308. This makes the challenge a minor victory for Germany at this point.
(-300 through -999)
Troop transport pool: 144.
Air is cold in Europe and rainy in Italy.
Ground is frozen in Europe and heavy mud in Italy.
Snow and water levels are high everywhere.
German air phase: 102 for Axis while Allies lost 18.
Allied air phase: 449 for Axis while Allies lost 1,108.
Ground operations: 56 for Axis while Allies lost 20.
Totals: 607 Axis. 1,146 Allies.
Luftwaffe advantage of 539. Allies flew low altitude air missions this turn on both strategic and tactical bombing missions with level bombers. Intensity was also increased.
Brest Peninsula: Another port was taken and the remaining empty hexes were occupied. BLM is not showing anything this turn but port is circled.
The other two landing sites in France had no change.
In Northern Italy two hexes were won but only one was occupied.
There is an invasion next to Spain.
On first week of 1945 I will update the air pools for both sides. Metalist was kind to send me some of his this last turn.
Germany did no attacks this turn.
Victory points: Turn -26. Game total is 308. This makes the challenge a minor victory for Germany at this point.
(-300 through -999)
Troop transport pool: 144.
Air is cold in Europe and rainy in Italy.
Ground is frozen in Europe and heavy mud in Italy.
Snow and water levels are high everywhere.
German air phase: 102 for Axis while Allies lost 18.
Allied air phase: 449 for Axis while Allies lost 1,108.
Ground operations: 56 for Axis while Allies lost 20.
Totals: 607 Axis. 1,146 Allies.
Luftwaffe advantage of 539. Allies flew low altitude air missions this turn on both strategic and tactical bombing missions with level bombers. Intensity was also increased.
Brest Peninsula: Another port was taken and the remaining empty hexes were occupied. BLM is not showing anything this turn but port is circled.
The other two landing sites in France had no change.
In Northern Italy two hexes were won but only one was occupied.
There is an invasion next to Spain.
On first week of 1945 I will update the air pools for both sides. Metalist was kind to send me some of his this last turn.
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Turn 79 German Phase
December 30, 1944.
Next week is 1945.
Victory Points: -21 for turn and -329 for game.
(Minor German victory
Germany did one attack and metalist sent this to me. However, the BLM recorded this for Allies so I will use it since it is easier to display this way. The hex was on the southern invasion site of France. Allies repelled the attack.
Next chart shows German air phase. 177 losses for Germany while Allies lost 64.
Below is chart of losses for Axis and Allies during German phase.
Final picture shows invasion site near Spain. Allies are ashore.
Air in Europe is cold while it is rainy in Northern Italy. Both areas are covered in much snow and heavy mud in Italy. Ground on map is in bad shape for attacks.
Next week is 1945.
Victory Points: -21 for turn and -329 for game.
(Minor German victory
Germany did one attack and metalist sent this to me. However, the BLM recorded this for Allies so I will use it since it is easier to display this way. The hex was on the southern invasion site of France. Allies repelled the attack.
Next chart shows German air phase. 177 losses for Germany while Allies lost 64.
Below is chart of losses for Axis and Allies during German phase.
Final picture shows invasion site near Spain. Allies are ashore.
Air in Europe is cold while it is rainy in Northern Italy. Both areas are covered in much snow and heavy mud in Italy. Ground on map is in bad shape for attacks.
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Turn 79 Allied Phase
December 30, 1944.
There was no change on D-Day landing site.
Two hexes were won and occupied on Brest Peninsula. (Red) BLM is not recording combat results so just left with color hexes.
The lower French landing site gained a hex through combat. (Red)
Below this there are two more landing hexes. (Blue)
Spain landing site was successful and had three hexes added to it.
Despite the heavy mud, two mountain hexes were won in combat in Northern Italy. However, only one was occupied. Ground losses for this phase were, 27,625 for Axis while Allies lost 19,379.
Total air losses for all phases were, 510 for Axis while Allies lost 1,188. this is an advantage of 678 for Luftwaffe. It did not go well for Allies on the air phase.
Germany withdraws happen from turn 80 through turn 84 and some of them are substantial.
There was no change on D-Day landing site.
Two hexes were won and occupied on Brest Peninsula. (Red) BLM is not recording combat results so just left with color hexes.
The lower French landing site gained a hex through combat. (Red)
Below this there are two more landing hexes. (Blue)
Spain landing site was successful and had three hexes added to it.
Despite the heavy mud, two mountain hexes were won in combat in Northern Italy. However, only one was occupied. Ground losses for this phase were, 27,625 for Axis while Allies lost 19,379.
Total air losses for all phases were, 510 for Axis while Allies lost 1,188. this is an advantage of 678 for Luftwaffe. It did not go well for Allies on the air phase.
Germany withdraws happen from turn 80 through turn 84 and some of them are substantial.
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1945
January 6, 1945.
I wanted to display two aspects to the challenge between Metalist and myself for 1945 but feel it would be too much.
A: Russian advance with Eastern Front.
B: Air resources; pools of existing aircraft type.
Therefore I will tackle the first one , Eastern Front on this segment and then air resources on the next turn.
Areas like Greece, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, cannot be invaded by Allies or Russia. Meaning, no ground units can go into them, thereby change control. Other Axis minors, and Russian hexes cannot be entered by Allies either. Though Axis air is able to use all countries except Russian.
There is an exception to the above but it almost never happiness. If Allies are able to join the Russian front south of Berlin, then Axis controlled hexes south of it are flipped to Allies. And yes, this includes Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungry, and all the other mirror countries. Yet still, Allies are not able to enter them.
It took five pictures to show Eastern Front so here we go from the south. First picture is of Greece and surrounding area. Many countries in this region have already been advanced on by Russia to its fullest. Meaning, Eastern Front does not go into Greece, Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia. The rest of the line forming the Eastern Front is still moving westward, roughly speaking.
A: Island of Crete and most of Greece.
B: Sofia, Bulgaria and Belgrade, Yugoslavia.
C: Budapest, Hungry and German city Krakow.
D: Warsaw, Poland.
I wanted to display two aspects to the challenge between Metalist and myself for 1945 but feel it would be too much.
A: Russian advance with Eastern Front.
B: Air resources; pools of existing aircraft type.
Therefore I will tackle the first one , Eastern Front on this segment and then air resources on the next turn.
Areas like Greece, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, cannot be invaded by Allies or Russia. Meaning, no ground units can go into them, thereby change control. Other Axis minors, and Russian hexes cannot be entered by Allies either. Though Axis air is able to use all countries except Russian.
There is an exception to the above but it almost never happiness. If Allies are able to join the Russian front south of Berlin, then Axis controlled hexes south of it are flipped to Allies. And yes, this includes Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungry, and all the other mirror countries. Yet still, Allies are not able to enter them.
It took five pictures to show Eastern Front so here we go from the south. First picture is of Greece and surrounding area. Many countries in this region have already been advanced on by Russia to its fullest. Meaning, Eastern Front does not go into Greece, Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia. The rest of the line forming the Eastern Front is still moving westward, roughly speaking.
A: Island of Crete and most of Greece.
B: Sofia, Bulgaria and Belgrade, Yugoslavia.
C: Budapest, Hungry and German city Krakow.
D: Warsaw, Poland.
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1945 Eastern Front
January 6, 1945.
Final picture of Eastern Front overview.
E: City of Koenigsberg and top of map.
Close up:
Warsaw Poland. It is about to be captured.
Close up:
One of Germany's main Eastern Front logistic hub, city of Krakow.
Close up:
Capital of Hungry about to be taken, Budapest.
Vienna, the capital of Austria is nearby and further west.
Final picture of Eastern Front overview.
E: City of Koenigsberg and top of map.
Close up:
Warsaw Poland. It is about to be captured.
Close up:
One of Germany's main Eastern Front logistic hub, city of Krakow.
Close up:
Capital of Hungry about to be taken, Budapest.
Vienna, the capital of Austria is nearby and further west.
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Turn 80 German phase
January 6, 1945.
Victory Points: -23 for turn and -352.
I clicked over the air results so it does not display losses as individuals after that. On metrics it shows Axis lost 145 while Allies lost 58. Germany conducted no attacks this turn.
First picture is of D-Day. no change.
Next picture is of Brest. Germany withdrew from two hexes to shorten contact line. They are circled in green.
This is below Brest invasion site. I have overlapped purposely each area to give reference.
Heading south on French coast. This is newest site.
Victory Points: -23 for turn and -352.
I clicked over the air results so it does not display losses as individuals after that. On metrics it shows Axis lost 145 while Allies lost 58. Germany conducted no attacks this turn.
First picture is of D-Day. no change.
Next picture is of Brest. Germany withdrew from two hexes to shorten contact line. They are circled in green.
This is below Brest invasion site. I have overlapped purposely each area to give reference.
Heading south on French coast. This is newest site.
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Turn 80 German phase B
January 6, 1945.
Spain border invasion site. Looks like a rather substantial German defensive line is forming there.
Italy has not been forgotten. Germany occupied the empty hex that Allies fought to win but could not occupy. It is in red.
Metalist knows Allies will be conducting many more landing soon. He so does love to destroy them! Ha.
Spain border invasion site. Looks like a rather substantial German defensive line is forming there.
Italy has not been forgotten. Germany occupied the empty hex that Allies fought to win but could not occupy. It is in red.
Metalist knows Allies will be conducting many more landing soon. He so does love to destroy them! Ha.
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Turn 80 Allied phase Spain
January 6, 1945.
Combined air phase:
Axis, 336.
Allies, 441.
Difference of 105, advantage for Luftwaffe. Weather was snow and rain over map.
Spain landing site had many attacks by Allies and several were successful. The port hex of Bayonne was taken and this is important. There is not another port nearby. This region is also far for German logistics. Finally, bad weather limits supply to Axis units.
Another hex taken to protect port. Hex was in heavy woods too.
Next hex protects line along Spain. It will help flip other hexes to friendly zone of control.
Overview of invasion site.
Combined air phase:
Axis, 336.
Allies, 441.
Difference of 105, advantage for Luftwaffe. Weather was snow and rain over map.
Spain landing site had many attacks by Allies and several were successful. The port hex of Bayonne was taken and this is important. There is not another port nearby. This region is also far for German logistics. Finally, bad weather limits supply to Axis units.
Another hex taken to protect port. Hex was in heavy woods too.
Next hex protects line along Spain. It will help flip other hexes to friendly zone of control.
Overview of invasion site.
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Turn 80 Allied phase Spain
January 6, 1945.
Following is the main hex in Spain line that controls so much of invasion site. Hex was attacked four times and ultimately won by Allies.
A: Weird but no losses.
B: Minimal and even.
C: Minimal and bad odds.
D: Final attack with full division.
Following is the main hex in Spain line that controls so much of invasion site. Hex was attacked four times and ultimately won by Allies.
A: Weird but no losses.
B: Minimal and even.
C: Minimal and bad odds.
D: Final attack with full division.
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Turn 80 Allies
December 6, 1945.
BLM is still working so I will take advantage of this. A hex was occupied next to beach on newest landing site. It was empty so nothing impressive.
Established landing site south of Brest is located on town of Les Sables. Nothing to report on it either. That means there were no successful attacks.
Brest Peninsula: There were many successful attacks in this region. There was also one hex taken on original D-Day site and with that, the two beachheads are now one. Twelve hexes were taken in total. This was accomplished despite the heavy mud and snow due to short logistical lines for Allies. Every town has a depot while Germany is so far from its sources of supply. Hexes under allied control are outlined behind red contact line. German units that have little to no combat strength left are circled in yellow. Axis Brest line is breaking. Or so it seems to Allied Command.
It took seven attacks to win the one hex on original D-Day. This makes it possible now to link up next turn. roughly speaking 2,600 Axis causalities. Allies had 4,300. this is for just one hex. A very important hex. It takes a lot of attrition to keep momentum moving. Below are attacks A, B, and C.
A:
B:
C:
BLM is still working so I will take advantage of this. A hex was occupied next to beach on newest landing site. It was empty so nothing impressive.
Established landing site south of Brest is located on town of Les Sables. Nothing to report on it either. That means there were no successful attacks.
Brest Peninsula: There were many successful attacks in this region. There was also one hex taken on original D-Day site and with that, the two beachheads are now one. Twelve hexes were taken in total. This was accomplished despite the heavy mud and snow due to short logistical lines for Allies. Every town has a depot while Germany is so far from its sources of supply. Hexes under allied control are outlined behind red contact line. German units that have little to no combat strength left are circled in yellow. Axis Brest line is breaking. Or so it seems to Allied Command.
It took seven attacks to win the one hex on original D-Day. This makes it possible now to link up next turn. roughly speaking 2,600 Axis causalities. Allies had 4,300. this is for just one hex. A very important hex. It takes a lot of attrition to keep momentum moving. Below are attacks A, B, and C.
A:
B:
C: