Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
17 Oct 42 - Very quiet turn today.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
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4 Fleet
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SE Fleet
The invasion fleets are just west of the Kurile Islands. Still undetected.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The front line is fully stocked with supply. Finally!
The troops that were isolated were pulled back to Cox's Bazaar and are all stocked with supply. The infantry divisions drew replacements from Akyab. Maybe that doesn't count as drawn supply?
Akyab has 6900 supply at the base with another 68k debarking from ships (down 1800).
Cox's Bazaar has 20 supply at the base and 7200 supply on ships (down 650) with another convoy arriving tomorrow.
Things are easing here finally.
China
Ted has a handful of I-15s stationed at Lanchow harassing my troops with 100 kg bombs (about on par with the Lily). I split my Zeros in theater and sent 8 to say HI to them. Two of 3 were shot down.
Something interesting is happening at Changsha. Some or all of the garrison of 125k troops are evacuating the city to the NW, toward 3 more stacks all in a row. The total number of Chinese troops here are about 250k troops. I'm surprised at that. If he fully evacuates (or I take the city from any troops left behind) that'll free up 4 divisions that are currently guarding the perimeter. I'm not moving those divisions yet. I want to see what's left behind. It would be absolutely outstanding if he completely evacuates Changsha. Then I would get the infrastructure (starting damaged) with no additional damage and get the forts. Very curious about this. I'm going to try and surround the troops with only Changteh controlled by the Chinese here. It has 20 LI. Yeah, that's enough to feed 250k troops.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
TK Arita Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, 14 kts. It's headed to Fusan to haul fuel/oil. I'm hauling fuel and resources as fast as I can, but oil is still lagging. Once that picks up, it appears that the land MSR may be up and running. Fusan't port is at 7.72. It's getting there.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Nothing to report.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
The invasion fleets are just west of the Kurile Islands. Still undetected.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The front line is fully stocked with supply. Finally!
The troops that were isolated were pulled back to Cox's Bazaar and are all stocked with supply. The infantry divisions drew replacements from Akyab. Maybe that doesn't count as drawn supply?
Akyab has 6900 supply at the base with another 68k debarking from ships (down 1800).
Cox's Bazaar has 20 supply at the base and 7200 supply on ships (down 650) with another convoy arriving tomorrow.
Things are easing here finally.
China
Ted has a handful of I-15s stationed at Lanchow harassing my troops with 100 kg bombs (about on par with the Lily). I split my Zeros in theater and sent 8 to say HI to them. Two of 3 were shot down.
Something interesting is happening at Changsha. Some or all of the garrison of 125k troops are evacuating the city to the NW, toward 3 more stacks all in a row. The total number of Chinese troops here are about 250k troops. I'm surprised at that. If he fully evacuates (or I take the city from any troops left behind) that'll free up 4 divisions that are currently guarding the perimeter. I'm not moving those divisions yet. I want to see what's left behind. It would be absolutely outstanding if he completely evacuates Changsha. Then I would get the infrastructure (starting damaged) with no additional damage and get the forts. Very curious about this. I'm going to try and surround the troops with only Changteh controlled by the Chinese here. It has 20 LI. Yeah, that's enough to feed 250k troops.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
TK Arita Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, 14 kts. It's headed to Fusan to haul fuel/oil. I'm hauling fuel and resources as fast as I can, but oil is still lagging. Once that picks up, it appears that the land MSR may be up and running. Fusan't port is at 7.72. It's getting there.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
18 Oct 42 Quiet - the lull before the storm.....
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
The invasion fleets are moving. There are additional forces out of the picture.
4 Fleet
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SE Fleet
Nothing to report.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The supply situation is progressing nicely. While Cox's Bazaar still has no supply at the base, the troops at the front and at Cox's Bazaar are mostly good with supply. The troops at the base are resting, recovering morale and taking on replacements.
Akyab has 8600 supply at the base and is expanding the port. It's currently at 1.37.
China
Here's a shot of what's going on at Changsha:
All but 15k troops have left Changsha and some or all still in Changsha are moving. You can see my 4 divisions are moving into the city. They're all rested and at full strength and will attack if they need to push out the rabble. I also have some garrison troops headed there to ransack the place, freeing up 4 good divisions.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
111 Naval Construction Battalion (4 Fleet), was originally slated for Saipan, but will be diverted to the Aleutians in a couple of days.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
The invasion fleets are moving. There are additional forces out of the picture.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Nothing to report.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The supply situation is progressing nicely. While Cox's Bazaar still has no supply at the base, the troops at the front and at Cox's Bazaar are mostly good with supply. The troops at the base are resting, recovering morale and taking on replacements.
Akyab has 8600 supply at the base and is expanding the port. It's currently at 1.37.
China
Here's a shot of what's going on at Changsha:
All but 15k troops have left Changsha and some or all still in Changsha are moving. You can see my 4 divisions are moving into the city. They're all rested and at full strength and will attack if they need to push out the rabble. I also have some garrison troops headed there to ransack the place, freeing up 4 good divisions.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
111 Naval Construction Battalion (4 Fleet), was originally slated for Saipan, but will be diverted to the Aleutians in a couple of days.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
I used to do the same thing. But especially when the N1K shows up, I want numerical as well as qualitative advantage. Until mid-44 I simply don't have enough IJN fighter groups available, so I grab a few of the KB groups ... just a thought.Mike Solli wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 4:58 pm I'll definitely consider that when the time comes. When KB is sitting playing pinochle (most of the time), I fill them out with rookies and let them train. I'll pull them out when they actually have to earn their rice balls.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Wow, you really went 'all-in'. I've never done this before. Why? I'm a supply conservation nerd. I hate to change AC factories after game start. As you know, tons of supply involved. So, now I'm REALLY watching to see how this plays out. It may change my thinking ...Mike Solli wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 5:04 pm ... I actually have 18 R&D factories each for the Frank, Sam and George.
It does. I've done a ton of testing on this and I think even Michael confirmed it once. There's a lot of randomness, but clearly as the due date approaches, the probability of a repair increases. In the last month the probability is something like 50% +/- 25% each day ... the +/-25% is the variance from one factory to the next; it might even be higher more like 33% or even more.Mike Solli wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 5:04 pm I figured the major difference between the George and Frank was the current operational date, 7/43 vs. 1/44. I thought R&D repairs speeded up the closer you got to the operational date. No empirical evidence, just what it "looks like" and what I've heard.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Those 54 R&D factories were set within the first week, of the game. None of them will ever change. Eventually, each of those will have 18 operational factories. The big decision is when the first George and Frank model become operational, how many will I pull out and how many will remain. Every 3 R&D factories at that point will advance the cause by 180% a month with the engine acceleration. I'll decide when it gets close. If I leave 15 in R&D, that'll advance them 9 months every month. If I didn't bother with the first model George, for example and get it, say 2/43, then the 18 R&D factories would advance 10.8 months every month. The N1K2 would arrive 2 months later. I have to figure out the logistics of the 3 fighters, their engines and the optimal production of each. Something to figure out later.PaxMondo wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 6:27 pmWow, you really went 'all-in'. I've never done this before. Why? I'm a supply conservation nerd. I hate to change AC factories after game start. As you know, tons of supply involved. So, now I'm REALLY watching to see how this plays out. It may change my thinking ...Mike Solli wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 5:04 pm ... I actually have 18 R&D factories each for the Frank, Sam and George.
It does. I've done a ton of testing on this and I think even Michael confirmed it once. There's a lot of randomness, but clearly as the due date approaches, the probability of a repair increases. In the last month the probability is something like 50% +/- 25% each day ... the +/-25% is the variance from one factory to the next; it might even be higher more like 33% or even more.Mike Solli wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 5:04 pm I figured the major difference between the George and Frank was the current operational date, 7/43 vs. 1/44. I thought R&D repairs speeded up the closer you got to the operational date. No empirical evidence, just what it "looks like" and what I've heard.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
19 Oct 42
Sub War
The Grampus surfaced at Babeldaob, shelled an xAKL and submerged. She'll later drop mines there that a couple of AMc stationed there will promptly sweep. I have those little tuna boats in just about every important port I have. They're invaluable. By the way, she only caused 3 points on sys damage on the xAKL. This base has no mines. That needs to be rectified. The problem is that I've just about run out of ACMs to tend the fields. I have a spare at Truk that I'm sending to Babeldaob. I've found a few ships that can be converted, but it takes 15 days.
5 Fleet
The Adak invasion TFs are 2 days out from landing. None of them are spotted yet. The lead TFs are 7 hexes NW of Attu.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Thirty-two B-17E/Fs hit Tulagi's port again. The port is trashed so it really didn't do much more: 95-74-28. The port is trashed, but I have 4k supply there and the airfield is slowly being repaired.
Thirty-five Nicks ambushed 17 P-39Ds shooting down 4 and damaging a bunch at Salamaua.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The supply situation improves daily. The total supply on ground at Cox's Bazaar and Akyab is 5800 with an additional 57k on ships unloading. Another 17k is two days out from Cox's Bazaar.
China
There are still 8 Chinese units leaving Changsha. My 4 divisions are still moving in. They're still 2 or more days out.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
TK Gyoshin Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, 14 kt, headed to Fusan to haul oil/fuel.
Sub War
The Grampus surfaced at Babeldaob, shelled an xAKL and submerged. She'll later drop mines there that a couple of AMc stationed there will promptly sweep. I have those little tuna boats in just about every important port I have. They're invaluable. By the way, she only caused 3 points on sys damage on the xAKL. This base has no mines. That needs to be rectified. The problem is that I've just about run out of ACMs to tend the fields. I have a spare at Truk that I'm sending to Babeldaob. I've found a few ships that can be converted, but it takes 15 days.
5 Fleet
The Adak invasion TFs are 2 days out from landing. None of them are spotted yet. The lead TFs are 7 hexes NW of Attu.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Thirty-two B-17E/Fs hit Tulagi's port again. The port is trashed so it really didn't do much more: 95-74-28. The port is trashed, but I have 4k supply there and the airfield is slowly being repaired.
Thirty-five Nicks ambushed 17 P-39Ds shooting down 4 and damaging a bunch at Salamaua.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The supply situation improves daily. The total supply on ground at Cox's Bazaar and Akyab is 5800 with an additional 57k on ships unloading. Another 17k is two days out from Cox's Bazaar.
China
There are still 8 Chinese units leaving Changsha. My 4 divisions are still moving in. They're still 2 or more days out.
Other Stuff
Reinforcement
TK Gyoshin Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, 14 kt, headed to Fusan to haul oil/fuel.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
20 Oct 42 - The quiet before the storm...
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Tomorrow, something is going to hit the fan.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Over 3 raids, 37 B-17E/Fs caused exactly 1 port hit. Why? It's already trashed: 95-74-26.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
Finally, Cox's Bazaar has some supply at the base, all of 1624, but it's definitely better than 20. Every unit at Cox's Bazaar and the front line have sufficient supply and replacements are being drawn as well. Akyab is up to 22k supply at the base. I think I'm over the hump, at least for a while.
China
Really great news! Ted completely evacuated Changsha! I think that was an error on his part. He should have left something in there so I would be force to attack it. I have 2 divisions there but am not attacking. I'm hoping it flips. Then there won't be any additional damage to the infrastructure and (at the time I thought) the forts would remain. I now know the answer to that but I'm not saying yet.
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
Tomorrow, something is going to hit the fan.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Over 3 raids, 37 B-17E/Fs caused exactly 1 port hit. Why? It's already trashed: 95-74-26.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
Finally, Cox's Bazaar has some supply at the base, all of 1624, but it's definitely better than 20. Every unit at Cox's Bazaar and the front line have sufficient supply and replacements are being drawn as well. Akyab is up to 22k supply at the base. I think I'm over the hump, at least for a while.
China
Really great news! Ted completely evacuated Changsha! I think that was an error on his part. He should have left something in there so I would be force to attack it. I have 2 divisions there but am not attacking. I'm hoping it flips. Then there won't be any additional damage to the infrastructure and (at the time I thought) the forts would remain. I now know the answer to that but I'm not saying yet.
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
21 Oct 42
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
So it begins! Something I realized yesterday was that I forgot to put DMS in any of the TFs and figured there would be mines. Well, I was right. I think there a ton of mines and here are the victims (everyone ate one mine):
CA Chokai: 7-14(6)1-0 - she'll stay with her transports.
xAP Kitano Maru: 14-33(27)-2(1)-0 - she'll stay and finish dropping off her troops.
xAP Hakozaki Maru: 3-36(28)-0-0 - she'll stay and finish dropping off her troops.
DD Akatsuki (Akatsuki class): 20-95(75)-24(15)-0 - she'll attempt to evacuate, but it isn't looking good.
DD Hibiki (Akatsuki class): 18-62(53)-1(1)-0 - flip a coin on this one.
DD Yugiri (Shikinami class): 30-70(54)1-0 - flip a coin on this one too.
I figured there would be defenses. Mines I didn't plan for, but I expected some CD guns, which I am happy to say aren't there. I can afford to lose some DDs. I've only lost 3 DDs and a TB prior to this operation.
The BB TF (all 7 BB, Kitakami and Oi, 10 Shiratsuyus) steamed into Adak's port and sank an xAK with 2 salvos from Hyuga. They managed to miss all the mines, fortunately. They were intentionally not set to bombard, just in case their big guns were needed for some enemy warships. I'll use them when needed, usually in pairs for bombardment and then send them to Paramushiro-jima where I have 2 AKEs to replenish their main guns. I'm not sure that'll work though because there's only a level 1 port there. I know they will replenish the big guns at Etorofu, but that's a lot farther away.
Here's the surprise. I expected a lot of enemy troops, but not this many combat troops:
40th Infantry Division
53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment
87th Mountain Regiment
34th Infantry Regiment
58th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
28th Base Group
202nd Coast AA Regiment
54th Base Group
154th Field Artillery Battalion
Eleventh USAAF
203rd Coast AA Regiment
501st Coast AA Regiment
NoPac Area
215th Coast AA Regiment
63rd Coast AA Regiment
5th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
802nd Aviation Engineer Battalion
210th Coast AA Regiment
49th Base Group
I see 1 division, 4 infantry regiments and an artillery battalion. I am landing 2, 4 and 38 Divisions today with a couple of tank regiments, a heavy mortar regiment and 16 Army HQ over the next couple of days. There's more available later.
The one good thing is that his 4 infantry regiments probably won't be able to stand up well to assaults by divisions. And his 40 Division has an AV of 240. It's going to be drag out fight.
Also, he has a LOT of AAA units and 48 fighters on the island (along with some auxiliary aircraft, probably PBYs), but no bombers. I'll keep KB away from that. That's a great way to lose irreplaceable aircraft. Here's a screen shot of today. Don't be too concerned with my AV. There still are a lot of troops to land:
Why am I doing this? I've read too many AARs that ended in an early Allied victory where the Allies pushed everything due west from the Aleutians and invaded Hokkaido. I won't let that happen. Yes, I try to conserve my IJN, but you have to use it some time. This, I believe, is one of those times.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Tulagi's trashed port attracted 34 B-17E/Fs. That port is still trashed and the airfield is slowly rebuilding: 95-74-24.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
I saw something new today. B-24Ds showed up in this theater! A dozen of the beasts escorted by 10 P-40Es went after Akyab. I think it was the port, but I'm not sure because no damage was caused. A full sentai of Tojos met them. When it was all said and done, 5 Warhawks and 4 Liberators were shot down with another of each apparently op losses. The Tojos had 6 damaged planes, but are able to put another 42 in the air tomorrow. (There happened to be 6 reserve planes.). Banzai!
China
Changsha flipped! And I do keep the 6 forts!
The infrastructure was trashed from the beginning of the game, but I didn't destroy any more (I don't think):
Manpower: 2(1)
Resources: 17(63)
HI: 0(22)
LI: 25(135)
Nothing will be repaired. I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't any HI.
Other Stuff
The A6M5b R&D advanced to 3/44 and is expected to become operational mid 2/43.
I forgot to mention that the last 4 Ha-45 engine factories completed their repairs 5 days ago. (Forgot to note it.) Their monthly production is 870, or 19 a day with 2 being used to accelerate the two completed N1K1-J George R&D factories. Interestingly, there a 1/30 chance that any one factory produces an extra engine (Random number between 1 & 30 in the calculation). I've had that happen once so far. With 6 factories, that's a 20% chance with lesser chances for more than 1 extra. As of 22 October, there are 915 engines in the pool.
I'm still burning a ton of supply on various factories:
Ha-32: 105(15)
Ha-35: 355(5)
Ha-35: 85(5)
A6M5: 27(33)
Ki-45 KAIa: 55(5)
I guess it's not a ton, but it is 5k supply a day. Can't wait for it to be finished. Five days and it drops to 2k a day.
With the 100k supply I've sent to Burma and all the supply burnt on the Ha-45 factory expansion, my supply has been hurting. I currently have a total of 2,644,012 supply in the empire. In addition, there's another 170k supply on ships heading to various places. I hope that my supply situation begins to improve soon.
My goal is to not expand more than 5k a day, at least until the Ha-43 finishes R&D. Then that'll spend 6k a day until I get it to whatever it is I need.
Interestingly, my empire fuel situation is hovering between 4.7-4.75M and is pretty stable. With the Aleutians operation kicking off, I anticipate a drop, but I'm not concerned with that.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
So it begins! Something I realized yesterday was that I forgot to put DMS in any of the TFs and figured there would be mines. Well, I was right. I think there a ton of mines and here are the victims (everyone ate one mine):
CA Chokai: 7-14(6)1-0 - she'll stay with her transports.
xAP Kitano Maru: 14-33(27)-2(1)-0 - she'll stay and finish dropping off her troops.
xAP Hakozaki Maru: 3-36(28)-0-0 - she'll stay and finish dropping off her troops.
DD Akatsuki (Akatsuki class): 20-95(75)-24(15)-0 - she'll attempt to evacuate, but it isn't looking good.
DD Hibiki (Akatsuki class): 18-62(53)-1(1)-0 - flip a coin on this one.
DD Yugiri (Shikinami class): 30-70(54)1-0 - flip a coin on this one too.
I figured there would be defenses. Mines I didn't plan for, but I expected some CD guns, which I am happy to say aren't there. I can afford to lose some DDs. I've only lost 3 DDs and a TB prior to this operation.
The BB TF (all 7 BB, Kitakami and Oi, 10 Shiratsuyus) steamed into Adak's port and sank an xAK with 2 salvos from Hyuga. They managed to miss all the mines, fortunately. They were intentionally not set to bombard, just in case their big guns were needed for some enemy warships. I'll use them when needed, usually in pairs for bombardment and then send them to Paramushiro-jima where I have 2 AKEs to replenish their main guns. I'm not sure that'll work though because there's only a level 1 port there. I know they will replenish the big guns at Etorofu, but that's a lot farther away.
Here's the surprise. I expected a lot of enemy troops, but not this many combat troops:
40th Infantry Division
53rd (Sep) Infantry Regiment
87th Mountain Regiment
34th Infantry Regiment
58th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
28th Base Group
202nd Coast AA Regiment
54th Base Group
154th Field Artillery Battalion
Eleventh USAAF
203rd Coast AA Regiment
501st Coast AA Regiment
NoPac Area
215th Coast AA Regiment
63rd Coast AA Regiment
5th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
802nd Aviation Engineer Battalion
210th Coast AA Regiment
49th Base Group
I see 1 division, 4 infantry regiments and an artillery battalion. I am landing 2, 4 and 38 Divisions today with a couple of tank regiments, a heavy mortar regiment and 16 Army HQ over the next couple of days. There's more available later.
The one good thing is that his 4 infantry regiments probably won't be able to stand up well to assaults by divisions. And his 40 Division has an AV of 240. It's going to be drag out fight.
Also, he has a LOT of AAA units and 48 fighters on the island (along with some auxiliary aircraft, probably PBYs), but no bombers. I'll keep KB away from that. That's a great way to lose irreplaceable aircraft. Here's a screen shot of today. Don't be too concerned with my AV. There still are a lot of troops to land:
Why am I doing this? I've read too many AARs that ended in an early Allied victory where the Allies pushed everything due west from the Aleutians and invaded Hokkaido. I won't let that happen. Yes, I try to conserve my IJN, but you have to use it some time. This, I believe, is one of those times.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Tulagi's trashed port attracted 34 B-17E/Fs. That port is still trashed and the airfield is slowly rebuilding: 95-74-24.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
I saw something new today. B-24Ds showed up in this theater! A dozen of the beasts escorted by 10 P-40Es went after Akyab. I think it was the port, but I'm not sure because no damage was caused. A full sentai of Tojos met them. When it was all said and done, 5 Warhawks and 4 Liberators were shot down with another of each apparently op losses. The Tojos had 6 damaged planes, but are able to put another 42 in the air tomorrow. (There happened to be 6 reserve planes.). Banzai!
China
Changsha flipped! And I do keep the 6 forts!
Manpower: 2(1)
Resources: 17(63)
HI: 0(22)
LI: 25(135)
Nothing will be repaired. I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't any HI.
Other Stuff
The A6M5b R&D advanced to 3/44 and is expected to become operational mid 2/43.
I forgot to mention that the last 4 Ha-45 engine factories completed their repairs 5 days ago. (Forgot to note it.) Their monthly production is 870, or 19 a day with 2 being used to accelerate the two completed N1K1-J George R&D factories. Interestingly, there a 1/30 chance that any one factory produces an extra engine (Random number between 1 & 30 in the calculation). I've had that happen once so far. With 6 factories, that's a 20% chance with lesser chances for more than 1 extra. As of 22 October, there are 915 engines in the pool.
I'm still burning a ton of supply on various factories:
Ha-32: 105(15)
Ha-35: 355(5)
Ha-35: 85(5)
A6M5: 27(33)
Ki-45 KAIa: 55(5)
I guess it's not a ton, but it is 5k supply a day. Can't wait for it to be finished. Five days and it drops to 2k a day.
With the 100k supply I've sent to Burma and all the supply burnt on the Ha-45 factory expansion, my supply has been hurting. I currently have a total of 2,644,012 supply in the empire. In addition, there's another 170k supply on ships heading to various places. I hope that my supply situation begins to improve soon.
My goal is to not expand more than 5k a day, at least until the Ha-43 finishes R&D. Then that'll spend 6k a day until I get it to whatever it is I need.
Interestingly, my empire fuel situation is hovering between 4.7-4.75M and is pretty stable. With the Aleutians operation kicking off, I anticipate a drop, but I'm not concerned with that.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
This is pure edutainment. Thanks Mike, Pax, et. al.
I was stationed at NSGA Adak from '92-'94. Best place I've ever lived. You have to be coming in over Kuluk Beach right in the middle of what later would be known as downtown Adak, Mike. There's really no where else. As a JFB wannabe I'm torn. Be gentle... please.
I was stationed at NSGA Adak from '92-'94. Best place I've ever lived. You have to be coming in over Kuluk Beach right in the middle of what later would be known as downtown Adak, Mike. There's really no where else. As a JFB wannabe I'm torn. Be gentle... please.
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That's outstanding. Thanks!homer82 wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 11:44 pm This is pure edutainment. Thanks Mike, Pax, et. al.
I was stationed at NSGA Adak from '92-'94. Best place I've ever lived. You have to be coming in over Kuluk Beach right in the middle of what later would be known as downtown Adak, Mike. There's really no where else. As a JFB wannabe I'm torn. Be gentle... please.![]()
Back in the Cold War days, I was in the Guard (retired from there eventually) and was in a light infantry brigade. Our Capstone mission if things got hot was the Aleutian Islands. I'm not really sure what they wanted us to do there. Make the Soviets fight for it, if they even cared about it?
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
22 Oct 42
Sub War
Down near Milne Bay, an ASW TF caught RO-60 hitting her 3 times. Her flot damage is 97. Survival is doubtful.
5 Fleet
My first ship went down. She was the DD Kiku, a Momi class. I'm not sure I'd call her a destroyer. She was only 850 tons. I was curious if she was bigger than a Yard Patrol craft (YP). She actually was, marginally. About 200 tons larger. I remember having a tour of a YP back when I joined the Navy. Man are they small. Anyway, I digress. If I have to lose a DD, that's what I wanted to lose. It seemed like the entire fleet hit mines, but there are actually 4 (real) DDs that hit mines along with a couple of xAPs. Only Akatsuki is critical with 94 flot damage. The other DDs are serious but they could make it. We'll see.
DD Kawakaze is one of the 4 mentioned above and she hit a mine today. Her damage is 20-79(55)-10(4)-0. She's limping to Attu. By the way, I captured Attu with a Kure 5 SNLF. The only US garrison there was the 42 Construction Engineer Regiment, which is merely a footnote now. That was very nice of Ted to give me that little base with a level 3 airfield and level 2 port. All the damaged ships will head there. It's the closest port for them as they fight for survival.
I dumped troops on Adak all day.
A battalion landed at Anchitka and will attack it tomorrow. There are no enemy troops there.
On Adak are elements of 2, 4 and 38 Divisions, 2 and 4 Tank Regiments and 1 Artillery Mortar Regiment. The tanks and mortars didn't fare too well landing, especially the mortars. There are still more troops to land. That'll continue tomorrow.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Near Lae, 42 Nicks tangled with 3 flights of B-17Es, two of them escorted by P-38Fs. When it was all over, 3 Nicks were shot down (plus an op loss) (1 KIA, 3 WIA), for a loss of 3 P-38s and a B-17. The B-17 was lost in the attack that had no fighter escort. The Lightnings did a nice job of protecting the bombers.
Tulagi was visited by 33 B-17E/Fs which went after, you guess it, the port.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The supply situation at Akyab, Cox's Bazaar and the front line is stable now. Everyone has sufficient supply and there is 17k supplies at Akyab and 10k supplies at Cox's Bazaar with another 45k on ships waiting to offload. I'm going to try a bombardment with the 8 artillery units I have at the front.
China
The big attack on Kweiyang goes in tomorrow. I'm confident it'll work.
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
Sub War
Down near Milne Bay, an ASW TF caught RO-60 hitting her 3 times. Her flot damage is 97. Survival is doubtful.
5 Fleet
My first ship went down. She was the DD Kiku, a Momi class. I'm not sure I'd call her a destroyer. She was only 850 tons. I was curious if she was bigger than a Yard Patrol craft (YP). She actually was, marginally. About 200 tons larger. I remember having a tour of a YP back when I joined the Navy. Man are they small. Anyway, I digress. If I have to lose a DD, that's what I wanted to lose. It seemed like the entire fleet hit mines, but there are actually 4 (real) DDs that hit mines along with a couple of xAPs. Only Akatsuki is critical with 94 flot damage. The other DDs are serious but they could make it. We'll see.
DD Kawakaze is one of the 4 mentioned above and she hit a mine today. Her damage is 20-79(55)-10(4)-0. She's limping to Attu. By the way, I captured Attu with a Kure 5 SNLF. The only US garrison there was the 42 Construction Engineer Regiment, which is merely a footnote now. That was very nice of Ted to give me that little base with a level 3 airfield and level 2 port. All the damaged ships will head there. It's the closest port for them as they fight for survival.
I dumped troops on Adak all day.
A battalion landed at Anchitka and will attack it tomorrow. There are no enemy troops there.
On Adak are elements of 2, 4 and 38 Divisions, 2 and 4 Tank Regiments and 1 Artillery Mortar Regiment. The tanks and mortars didn't fare too well landing, especially the mortars. There are still more troops to land. That'll continue tomorrow.
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Near Lae, 42 Nicks tangled with 3 flights of B-17Es, two of them escorted by P-38Fs. When it was all over, 3 Nicks were shot down (plus an op loss) (1 KIA, 3 WIA), for a loss of 3 P-38s and a B-17. The B-17 was lost in the attack that had no fighter escort. The Lightnings did a nice job of protecting the bombers.
Tulagi was visited by 33 B-17E/Fs which went after, you guess it, the port.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
The supply situation at Akyab, Cox's Bazaar and the front line is stable now. Everyone has sufficient supply and there is 17k supplies at Akyab and 10k supplies at Cox's Bazaar with another 45k on ships waiting to offload. I'm going to try a bombardment with the 8 artillery units I have at the front.
China
The big attack on Kweiyang goes in tomorrow. I'm confident it'll work.
Other Stuff
Nothing to report.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
23 Oct 42
Sub War
The Pompano showed up at Adak and launched 2 torpedoes at "DD" Kuri right after she hit the mine but before she sank...and missed. Kuri's sister ship Tsuga tried to prosecute her and failed miserably.
5 Fleet
I have several fleets supporting the invasion. In addition to KB1 and KB2, hanging out south of the islands (and still unspotted!), I have my BB TF, a heavy cover force of 3 CA, 1 CL and 10 DD and a small TF of 2 CL and about 10 DD. Wherever a landing happens, one of those TFs is present.
Today, the CA TF came across an AVP at a little speck of an island between Attu and Kiska and sank her. Odd...
Ted must have generated a PT TF at Adak. There were 12 of them and they went after a TF attempting to unload the last of 2 Division. Seven of them were destroyed, but not before they sank an xAP and damaged another. The TF fled the hex so I have to send them back in running the mine gauntlet tomorrow. This is the only TF that has troops remaining on it. Everything else is either empty or has only supply. I pulled the empty ships into a separate TF and included some damaged vessels that still had a little supply and sent them to the rear.
I separated 2 BBs and a DD from the BB TF into a bombardment TF and hit Adak. It was a very nice little bombardment. It caused almost 500 casualties, hit two ACMs in port (YPs, by the way) and plastered the airfield. It's showing 41% damage now. They're headed to see if they can replenish from the AKEs at Paramushiro-jima.
The Americans bombarded me, for little loss on either side. Burn that supply, baby!
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Eighty-two 4E bombers hit various targets in this AO today. That's about all over here. I'm guarding my bases and resting my fighters as I can.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
My bombardment wasn't all that effective. I do much better using counter battery when the Brits barrage me, which they do every day.
China
Kweiyang easily fell in a 42:1 attack. There were over 37k Chinese casualties and even better, no Chinese units were destroyed. Some 120k or so Chinese fled north toward Chungking where they will eat them out of house and home.
I'm shifting my AS north to Kweiyang and will use that base to bombard the Chinese from a closer range than currently.
Other Stuff
I'm all caught up!!!
The Ki-44-IIc R&D advanced to 7/43 and is expected to become operational 12/42.
Sub War
The Pompano showed up at Adak and launched 2 torpedoes at "DD" Kuri right after she hit the mine but before she sank...and missed. Kuri's sister ship Tsuga tried to prosecute her and failed miserably.
5 Fleet
I have several fleets supporting the invasion. In addition to KB1 and KB2, hanging out south of the islands (and still unspotted!), I have my BB TF, a heavy cover force of 3 CA, 1 CL and 10 DD and a small TF of 2 CL and about 10 DD. Wherever a landing happens, one of those TFs is present.
Today, the CA TF came across an AVP at a little speck of an island between Attu and Kiska and sank her. Odd...
Ted must have generated a PT TF at Adak. There were 12 of them and they went after a TF attempting to unload the last of 2 Division. Seven of them were destroyed, but not before they sank an xAP and damaged another. The TF fled the hex so I have to send them back in running the mine gauntlet tomorrow. This is the only TF that has troops remaining on it. Everything else is either empty or has only supply. I pulled the empty ships into a separate TF and included some damaged vessels that still had a little supply and sent them to the rear.
I separated 2 BBs and a DD from the BB TF into a bombardment TF and hit Adak. It was a very nice little bombardment. It caused almost 500 casualties, hit two ACMs in port (YPs, by the way) and plastered the airfield. It's showing 41% damage now. They're headed to see if they can replenish from the AKEs at Paramushiro-jima.
The Americans bombarded me, for little loss on either side. Burn that supply, baby!
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Eighty-two 4E bombers hit various targets in this AO today. That's about all over here. I'm guarding my bases and resting my fighters as I can.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
My bombardment wasn't all that effective. I do much better using counter battery when the Brits barrage me, which they do every day.
China
Kweiyang easily fell in a 42:1 attack. There were over 37k Chinese casualties and even better, no Chinese units were destroyed. Some 120k or so Chinese fled north toward Chungking where they will eat them out of house and home.
I'm shifting my AS north to Kweiyang and will use that base to bombard the Chinese from a closer range than currently.
Other Stuff
I'm all caught up!!!
The Ki-44-IIc R&D advanced to 7/43 and is expected to become operational 12/42.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Shemya and Adak were the only islands worth anything but Adak shut down manned ops in '95. Shemya is still there though.Mike Solli wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 1:11 amThat's outstanding. Thanks!homer82 wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 11:44 pm This is pure edutainment. Thanks Mike, Pax, et. al.
I was stationed at NSGA Adak from '92-'94. Best place I've ever lived. You have to be coming in over Kuluk Beach right in the middle of what later would be known as downtown Adak, Mike. There's really no where else. As a JFB wannabe I'm torn. Be gentle... please.![]()
Back in the Cold War days, I was in the Guard (retired from there eventually) and was in a light infantry brigade. Our Capstone mission if things got hot was the Aleutian Islands. I'm not really sure what they wanted us to do there. Make the Soviets fight for it, if they even cared about it?
SCPO USN (Ret.)
Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
And if you do, figure on spending a full day there. What impressed me was the junior officers' quarters, little cubbyholes in the middle of a mass of steel with no A/C. Bet it was toastySkyros wrote: Mon May 18, 2026 7:59 pm I've stayed at Ocean Lakes in a pop up with 3 kids and my spouse. Fun times. If really bored you should drive up to Wilmington and see the North Carolina.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
If I do, it'll be next year. Definitely on the list.sanch wrote: Thu May 21, 2026 11:27 pmAnd if you do, figure on spending a full day there. What impressed me was the junior officers' quarters, little cubbyholes in the middle of a mass of steel with no A/C. Bet it was toastySkyros wrote: Mon May 18, 2026 7:59 pm I've stayed at Ocean Lakes in a pop up with 3 kids and my spouse. Fun times. If really bored you should drive up to Wilmington and see the North Carolina.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
24 Oct 42
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
27 mines cleared today. Intel says there are 6 ships in port, an AS and 5 ACM. That sounds about right.
I'm going to bombard with 2 more BB tomorrow to try and damage the airfield some more. When the last 2 BBs bombarded 2 days ago, the damage was up to 41. It's down to 39 now, not much considering how many engineers he probably has there. I still see 51 fighters and 15 auxiliary aircraft at Adak. It's interesting that there are no Allied airfields until Cold Bay, 14 hexes east of Adak. That airfield is only 1(2). I have a few battalion sized unit near this AO, along with 21 Division, which is going for Dutch Harbor. I might try and grab Cold Bay. That might doom the fighters at Adak. The next nearest base with an airfield is Kodiak, 24 hexes from Adak. I'm really surprised he didn't build up Unmak's airfield.
The 5 surviving PT boats attacked a convoy offloading supply. Seven xAPs protected by Chokai (who's recovering nicely form the mine hit two days ago) and 3 DDs (who screened the xAPs). I don't think these PT boats have torpedoes unless they resupplied at Adak. At any rate, they never got close enough and withdrew after one of them took a smaller caliber hit.
Only 2 Division still had troops aboard. They landed most of their remaining troops.
One xAK came too close to shore and took a LOT of hits from artillery leaving her heavily damaged and burning. She'll go down later in the day.
Edit: Ship losses to date:
DD Kiko (Momi class) - mine
DD Kuri (Momi class) - mine
xAP Kokuryu Maru (Horai class) - torpedo (PT boat)
xAK Tonan Maru (Husimi class) - artillery
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Tulagi took 29x 4E sorties in 3 attacks against the port. Damage there is 97-74-18. The airfield is very slowly being repaired.
Then he went after Rabaul again. I had 31 Zeros, 18 Tojos and 5 Rufes (their debut!) against several waves of escorted bombers:
1st wave:
17 P-38F - 7 shot down
12 B-17E
24 B-24D - 1 shot down by a Rufe! Banzai! The machine gunners were probably wondering what the heck the Rufe was and never bothered to shoot at it.
I lost a Rufe (WIA) and a Tojo (WIA).
2nd wave:
9 B-17E
One Tojo (WIA) lost.
3rd wave:
7 B-24D
No losses on either side.
He went after troops and was ineffective.
I had both sentai of Nicks at Rabaul but they were resting. That was a mistake. At least one needs to be flying at all times. Both are well rested and both are flying for tomorrow. Hope he comes back.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
MKB, reinforced with a CVE hauling 27 Vals, went after ships at Diamond Harbor.
52 Zero - 2 lost (2 MIA)
12 Kates (torpedoes)
27 Vals
8 Hurricane IIb T - 2 shot down
8 Hurricane Iic T - 3 shot down
They found 2 AMc and sank them both. MKB is going after the port tomorrow, where BB Valiant is licking its wounds and most likely CV Illustrious is also trying to hide.
Oh yeah, here is MKB's load out:
146 Zeros
63 Vals
54 Kates
I'm hoping a significant chunk of the Zeros carry 800 kg bombs to pierce both decks. There are 48 enemy fighters at Calcutta, so I'm expecting lots of fighters.
China
Chungking and Lanchow's airfields were bombed, as usual. The victors of Kweiyang are resting until the supply catches up to them. Then they'll move north. The former Kweiyang garrison is down to 109k (from a high ~180k) to the NE, with a river separating them from my troops. That's on the road that leads directly to Chungking. I have 23 Army HQ arriving in a day or 2. It'll take a couple of divisions and will take Neikiang and surround Chengtu (the other base where Chinese units will respawn). Each of those bases has ~15k troops.
Just NW of Changsha, there are 3 big groups of Chinese all in a row (155k, 31k and 78k). I'm working to surround them where they can sit until Chungking and Chengtu are liberated. Then I'll reduce them. The 31k is a garrison for Changteh, where they have 20 LI. Once surrounded, that will be their only source of supply.
Other Stuff
Reinforcements
TK Kotai Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, haul oil from Fusan to the Home Islands.
TK Palembang Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, haul oil from Fusan to the Home Islands.
Sub War
Nothing to report.
5 Fleet
27 mines cleared today. Intel says there are 6 ships in port, an AS and 5 ACM. That sounds about right.
I'm going to bombard with 2 more BB tomorrow to try and damage the airfield some more. When the last 2 BBs bombarded 2 days ago, the damage was up to 41. It's down to 39 now, not much considering how many engineers he probably has there. I still see 51 fighters and 15 auxiliary aircraft at Adak. It's interesting that there are no Allied airfields until Cold Bay, 14 hexes east of Adak. That airfield is only 1(2). I have a few battalion sized unit near this AO, along with 21 Division, which is going for Dutch Harbor. I might try and grab Cold Bay. That might doom the fighters at Adak. The next nearest base with an airfield is Kodiak, 24 hexes from Adak. I'm really surprised he didn't build up Unmak's airfield.
The 5 surviving PT boats attacked a convoy offloading supply. Seven xAPs protected by Chokai (who's recovering nicely form the mine hit two days ago) and 3 DDs (who screened the xAPs). I don't think these PT boats have torpedoes unless they resupplied at Adak. At any rate, they never got close enough and withdrew after one of them took a smaller caliber hit.
Only 2 Division still had troops aboard. They landed most of their remaining troops.
One xAK came too close to shore and took a LOT of hits from artillery leaving her heavily damaged and burning. She'll go down later in the day.
Edit: Ship losses to date:
DD Kiko (Momi class) - mine
DD Kuri (Momi class) - mine
xAP Kokuryu Maru (Horai class) - torpedo (PT boat)
xAK Tonan Maru (Husimi class) - artillery
4 Fleet
Nothing to report.
SE Fleet
Tulagi took 29x 4E sorties in 3 attacks against the port. Damage there is 97-74-18. The airfield is very slowly being repaired.
Then he went after Rabaul again. I had 31 Zeros, 18 Tojos and 5 Rufes (their debut!) against several waves of escorted bombers:
1st wave:
17 P-38F - 7 shot down
12 B-17E
24 B-24D - 1 shot down by a Rufe! Banzai! The machine gunners were probably wondering what the heck the Rufe was and never bothered to shoot at it.
I lost a Rufe (WIA) and a Tojo (WIA).
2nd wave:
9 B-17E
One Tojo (WIA) lost.
3rd wave:
7 B-24D
No losses on either side.
He went after troops and was ineffective.
I had both sentai of Nicks at Rabaul but they were resting. That was a mistake. At least one needs to be flying at all times. Both are well rested and both are flying for tomorrow. Hope he comes back.
SRA
Nothing to report.
Burma
MKB, reinforced with a CVE hauling 27 Vals, went after ships at Diamond Harbor.
52 Zero - 2 lost (2 MIA)
12 Kates (torpedoes)
27 Vals
8 Hurricane IIb T - 2 shot down
8 Hurricane Iic T - 3 shot down
They found 2 AMc and sank them both. MKB is going after the port tomorrow, where BB Valiant is licking its wounds and most likely CV Illustrious is also trying to hide.
Oh yeah, here is MKB's load out:
146 Zeros
63 Vals
54 Kates
I'm hoping a significant chunk of the Zeros carry 800 kg bombs to pierce both decks. There are 48 enemy fighters at Calcutta, so I'm expecting lots of fighters.
China
Chungking and Lanchow's airfields were bombed, as usual. The victors of Kweiyang are resting until the supply catches up to them. Then they'll move north. The former Kweiyang garrison is down to 109k (from a high ~180k) to the NE, with a river separating them from my troops. That's on the road that leads directly to Chungking. I have 23 Army HQ arriving in a day or 2. It'll take a couple of divisions and will take Neikiang and surround Chengtu (the other base where Chinese units will respawn). Each of those bases has ~15k troops.
Just NW of Changsha, there are 3 big groups of Chinese all in a row (155k, 31k and 78k). I'm working to surround them where they can sit until Chungking and Chengtu are liberated. Then I'll reduce them. The 31k is a garrison for Changteh, where they have 20 LI. Once surrounded, that will be their only source of supply.
Other Stuff
Reinforcements
TK Kotai Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, haul oil from Fusan to the Home Islands.
TK Palembang Maru, Type-1 TM, 8150 capacity, haul oil from Fusan to the Home Islands.
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Yep. rader v Greyjoy was one of the first, and certainly the most spectacular. The Northern route is the shortest path. Adak is key.Mike Solli wrote: Wed May 20, 2026 9:21 pm 21 Oct 42
Why am I doing this? I've read too many AARs that ended in an early Allied victory where the Allies pushed everything due west from the Aleutians and invaded Hokkaido. I won't let that happen. Yes, I try to conserve my IJN, but you have to use it some time. This, I believe, is one of those times.
Pax
Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Zeros carry 800 KG bombs? Who knew!
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Wise guy!
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Re: Never Thought I'd Start Another One - tc464 (A) vs. Mike (J)
Pax


