If you have naval support to fly in, that could be helpful.vettim89 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 11:02 pm Just want to show the status of the RAN ships now disbanded at Milne Bay. Suspect the Nells will come on Port Attack next turn. Canberra is at 53 major Flotation Damage and Perth is at 19 major. Canberra is likely a loss but maybe Perth can get out
Back and Better Than Ever Vettim 89(A) vs Greasylake(J)
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Re: 13 May 1942 addendum
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
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Re: Battle of Milne Bay 13 May 1942
You didn't have enough fighters for escorts on your carrier raids plus they did not form up. Also, the other enemy TF that was attacked may have been the closer TF which is why the escorted Devastators attacked there. At this stage of the war, it might be best to have each carrier in its own TF or maybe 2 per TF but no more than that as Allies. Also, consider dropping off the Devastators for training and having more fighters on board your carriers or have the Devastators fly ASW missions.vettim89 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2026 11:00 pm Not much going on elsewhere on the map. Japanese invade Manus. Larry likely reinforcing at Tarakan
So we had us a CV battle. I am both happy and displeased. I got off fairly light but didn't do much damage either. A lot of the Japanese attention was distracted to the AMPH TF at Milne Bay itself which probably played into my favor. So here it goes
Milne Bay.jpg
Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 101,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 86 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
G3M2 Nell x 28
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 11
F4F-3 Wildcat x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 28
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CA Canberra, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Perth
DD EvertsenSo my CV air made no AM attacks. Why???Morning Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 101,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 104 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
B5N2 Kate x 22
D3A1 Val x 22
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 3
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
CL Perth, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Voyager
CA Canberra, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
So my guys finally decide to go after the IJN in the PM. Wow, 51 SBDs = 3 hitsAfternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 101,134
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
B5N2 Kate x 46
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 8
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed, 11 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed by flak
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Hornet
IJN still going after the AussiesAfternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 105,129
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
SBD-3 Dauntless x 51
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed, 10 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed by flak
Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 1
CS Mizuho
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TBDs lacked the range to get to the IJN CVs. Some successAfternoon Air attack on TF, near Milne Bay at 101,133
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 36
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CL Perth, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Van Nes
CA Canberra, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Evertsen
SBDs failed to coordinate.Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 104,132
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
TBD-1 Devastator x 24
Allied aircraft losses
TBD-1 Devastator: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Uzuki
This attack was the most successful of the day but only 500 lb bomb hitsAfternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 105,129
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
CVL Shoho
Enterprise is fine with 20 Flotation Damage. I suspect Kaga is at least out of the war for a while. Shoho is not very sturdy, so perhaps two bomb hits will be enough. Air loss were decidedly in my favor. I check my groups and I lost very few pilots so that good. Everybody is withdrawing south nowAfternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 105,129
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Allied aircraft
SBD-2 Dauntless x 18
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
SBD-2 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 1
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
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But the Kaga is probably a barbequed ship with Japanese damage control.
Also, vector in any submarines plus consider having low level night PBY naval attacks along with your night naval search.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
Re: Back and Better Than Ever Vettim 89(A) vs Greasylake(J)
Kaga might be sunk by 4 bomb hits esp with the heavy fires....depends on if the Japanese Damage control does anything but watch it burn...and if he has a nearby port to quickly/easily put into.
The Shoho looks fine neither reported showed big fires/heavy damage....it might be out of action for abit but most likely not sunk.
The Shoho looks fine neither reported showed big fires/heavy damage....it might be out of action for abit but most likely not sunk.
14 May 1942
A Japanese ship definitely sunk this turn. Forgot to check the air loss screen. Hopefully it was Kaga
More Japanese show up at Tarakan. The Dutch are in no more welcoming of a mood.
Loemadjang falls. Lot of AV tied up on Java
More Japanese show up at Tarakan. The Dutch are in no more welcoming of a mood.
More pleasePre-Invasion action off Tarakan (67,91)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
46 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
xAP Horai Maru, Shell hits 4
DD Fuyo
DD Kamikaze
xAP Atsuta Maru, Shell hits 1
xAP Mizuho Maru, Shell hits 2
E Hatsukari
E Chidori
E Hashidate
E Shimushu
DMS W-8
DMS W-7
APD Tade
APD Fuji
APD Aoi
APD Nadakaze
APD Shimakaze
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
B-25s get oneInvasion Support action off Tarakan (67,91) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
68 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
xAP Takatiho Maru, Shell hits 4
DD Fuyo
E Chidori
xAP Horai Maru, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Mizuho Maru, Shell hits 1
E Shimushu
DMS W-8
APD Tade
E Hashidate
E Hatsukari
Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
I swept Rangoon with P-38Es. Three losses for both sides, but the squadron only has 8 operational planes now.Morning Air attack on TF, near Tarakan at 67,91
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 5
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAP Horai Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD Fuji, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Loemadjang falls. Lot of AV tied up on Java
Ground combat at Loemadjang (56,106)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 20144 troops, 190 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 671
Defending force 6922 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 95
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 507
Allied adjusted defense: 52
Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Loemadjang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
323 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
1789 casualties reported
Squads: 56 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 136 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 30 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 28 (28 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
9th Infantry Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
5th Division
Defending units:
Artilleriecommando Coastal Gun Battalion
6th KNIL Regiment
MLD
Marinier Battalion
Loemafjang Base Force
Soerabaja Base Force
Commandement Marine
2 ML-KNIL Aviation
Malang Base Force
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
Re: Back and Better Than Ever Vettim 89(A) vs Greasylake(J)
Save your fighter pilots, only sweep when you are going to send in bombers.
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
15-17 May 1942
Slow few turns.
Larry has reinforced at Tarakan but the Dutch are just not letting go here. I figure he has lost 4 or 5 xAP plus an xAK and and APD. He is going to love Ambon when he gets there.
I have to wonder what his fuel situation is at this point. He has used his BBs a lot in far flung areas of the map. That 10 day trip by KB into the IO had to burn some fuel also. I still hold Tarakan (barely), Balikpapan, Batavia, and Palembang. I turned Miri into a pile of rubble before withdrawing my B-17s. He really seems to be focusing his game play on the tactical not strategic this time around. That was not the case in our previous games. Fully expect that we will see something bold in the coming months like an invasion of India or Australia
Larry has reinforced at Tarakan but the Dutch are just not letting go here. I figure he has lost 4 or 5 xAP plus an xAK and and APD. He is going to love Ambon when he gets there.
BBs hit Milne Bay again. There is 0 supply at the base now. Beginning to question the value of reinforcing here. Even if I could get the base built up, it is just too vulnerable to BB bombardments. I am beginning to contemplate building up Terapo instead. Need to build up the base on the NE coast of the Australian mainland firstGround combat at Tarakan (67,91)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 7604 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 194
Defending force 1912 troops, 49 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 50
Japanese adjusted assault: 117
Allied adjusted defense: 52
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
1st Indpt SNLF Coy
65th Brigade
42nd Naval Guard Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
Defending units:
VII KNIL Battalion
Tarakan Coastal Gun Battalion
Tarakan Base Force
An I-boat sinks a Tk near Addu Atoll. Have to rethink the fuel supply chain from Abadon to Oz also. Larry has been very effective in his interdiction of supply lines in this gameNight Naval bombardment of Milne Bay at 101,133
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 24 damaged
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed on ground
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
CA Ashigara
CA Tone
Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 15
Runway hits 52
I have to wonder what his fuel situation is at this point. He has used his BBs a lot in far flung areas of the map. That 10 day trip by KB into the IO had to burn some fuel also. I still hold Tarakan (barely), Balikpapan, Batavia, and Palembang. I turned Miri into a pile of rubble before withdrawing my B-17s. He really seems to be focusing his game play on the tactical not strategic this time around. That was not the case in our previous games. Fully expect that we will see something bold in the coming months like an invasion of India or Australia
"We have met the enemy and they are ours" - Commodore O.H. Perry
Re: Back and Better Than Ever Vettim 89(A) vs Greasylake(J)
He really needs to protect the oil fields when he captures them so he needs to push back from your potential airfields first. He is going slow . . .
As far as Milne Bay is concerned, try to get some PT Boats there during bad weather and low moonlit nights. Two or three PT Boats per TF is how they were used. Also, consider mining the approaches. If he travels through certain hexes, try mining those. Have S-boats in the deeper water with their working torpedoes. If you can have night naval search, that can happen as well as night torpedo attacks but the night naval searches can help any PT Boats and submarines in the area. It would be risky but if you can slow his bombardment TFs down, then they can be attacked in the morning from the air. Devastators dropping four 500 pound bombs each can do a lot of damage and I sunk a Japanese battleship with those one time - that battleship was burning nicely after 40 hits in 2 days!
As far as Milne Bay is concerned, try to get some PT Boats there during bad weather and low moonlit nights. Two or three PT Boats per TF is how they were used. Also, consider mining the approaches. If he travels through certain hexes, try mining those. Have S-boats in the deeper water with their working torpedoes. If you can have night naval search, that can happen as well as night torpedo attacks but the night naval searches can help any PT Boats and submarines in the area. It would be risky but if you can slow his bombardment TFs down, then they can be attacked in the morning from the air. Devastators dropping four 500 pound bombs each can do a lot of damage and I sunk a Japanese battleship with those one time - that battleship was burning nicely after 40 hits in 2 days!
Seek peace but keep your gun handy.
I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
; Julia Child

I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
“Illegitemus non carborundum est (“Don’t let the bastards grind you down”).”
18-22 May 1942
Definite lull in the action as both sides lick their wounds.
Only big news is that the Dutch are still holding at Tarakan. Next deliberate attack will do them in but their defense has been legendary
I decided to repair Enterprise in theatre. She is almost to Sydney now. Will keep my CVs in this AOE for the time being. Hornet and Lexington are at Auckland doing some repairs of their own
Only big news is that the Dutch are still holding at Tarakan. Next deliberate attack will do them in but their defense has been legendary
I decided to repair Enterprise in theatre. She is almost to Sydney now. Will keep my CVs in this AOE for the time being. Hornet and Lexington are at Auckland doing some repairs of their own
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Re: Back and Better Than Ever Vettim 89(A) vs Greasylake(J)
Interesting stuff. Against Ironman Japan, I had to set up Abadan-Karachi (hoard fuel at Karachi), Karachi-Cape Town, Cape Town-Melbourne (or Adelaide or Albany or Perth) fuel convoys. When you lose a couple of eight-vessel tanker TFs near Christmas IO you learn quickly.
Anyway, good luck. Looks like not taking the DEI during the happy time is biting him in the posterior.
Cheers,
CB
Anyway, good luck. Looks like not taking the DEI during the happy time is biting him in the posterior.
Cheers,
CB
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