2Day AAR Kid vs. EL TOJO
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: 26 Dec 1941
I think they must have been boozed up on Fosters. Just got got my head handed to me at Rabaul. 500 casualties for only 39. Damn Ozies...... [:@]
ah well.....took Yenen (for what it's worth)
ah well.....took Yenen (for what it's worth)
28 Dec 1941
I've been forced to give up Moulmein without a fight. The Japs moved in and cut my planned retreat path. I'm not willing to let the Moulmein garrison get totally wiped out so, I've pulled them out.


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RE: 28 Dec 1941
I've been forced to give up Moulmein without a fight. The Japs moved in and cut my planned retreat path. I'm not willing to let the Moulmein garrison get totally wiped out so, I've pulled them out.
It's not just Moulmein Kid, if he moves NW instead he cuts supply for both Moulmein AND Rangoon.
Thats the same situation that made me plan for Mandalay. You can't let your troops get cut off without supply or you loose them all. Run like the wind! [:D]
28 Dec 1941
The Battle for Malaya is going as expected. Allied forces are slowly being pushed back to Singapore. The troops holding Georgetown are now cut off and are without hope. Strong enemy forces have been detected surrounding the base. I expect Georgetown to fall in next few turn with the loss of thousands of troops.


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28 Dec 1941
I've got a dilemma in the Philippines. I have a very large force at Clark Field. These units started there and have quite a few Prep Points built up. They will do a very good job of defending CF but there are no strategic resources there. Do I move these units to Bataan to prolong the fight, or Manila to get the bonus for the city terrain, or leave them where they are?


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28 Dec 1941
The Battle for Rabaul and surrounding area.


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RE: 28 Dec 1941
the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperty Sphere is shaping up well.
Our first proclaimation will be the banning of all future "Stealth cruiser" actions by the Imperialists. Besides being unfair, it may force us to deploy our super secret "flying sub" squadrons. Saved for just such a special occasion.
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Our first proclaimation will be the banning of all future "Stealth cruiser" actions by the Imperialists. Besides being unfair, it may force us to deploy our super secret "flying sub" squadrons. Saved for just such a special occasion.
SURRENDER NOW.
28 Dec 1941
Resources taken from Dutch bases that the Japs will never get to use. [:D]


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RE: 28 Dec 1941
What??? Send them back, they are not full yet! You chicken! [:D]
RE: 28 Dec 1941
What are the rules on capturing supplies & fuels when you take a base? Do you get 100% or some fraction of that?
Just curious!
Thanks in advance
JP
Just curious!
Thanks in advance
JP
RE: 28 Dec 1941
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
What??? Send them back, they are not full yet! You chicken! [:D]
Oh I have plenty of ships, no need to fully load them.[:D]
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RE: 28 Dec 1941
ORIGINAL: Jaypea
What are the rules on capturing supplies & fuels when you take a base? Do you get 100% or some fraction of that?
Just curious!
Thanks in advance
JP
The facilities may get damaged but as far as I know any resources that are stockpiled you get them all.
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RE: 28 Dec 1941
No time to edit so here is the entire AAR. Note the amount of ASW going on. Its like a game all in its self.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/41
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Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7
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Sub attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
DD Oshio
DD Nowaki
DD Hagikaze
DD Michishio
DD Akatsuki
DD Mikazuki
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 30,34
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 13
Blenheim IV x 11
Hudson I x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 8
no losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
13 x Blenheim I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 27th Chinese Corps, at 50,26
Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 17
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 30,47
Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Arashio
DD Maikaze
DD Arashi
DD Sagiri
DD Hibiki
Allied Ships
SS KXVII
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ASW attack at 30,47
Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Arashio
DD Maikaze
DD Arashi
DD Sagiri
DD Hibiki
Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 1
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ASW attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki
DD Hagikaze
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Akatsuki
DD Mikazuki
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
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ASW attack at 46,45
Japanese Ships
DD Ariake
DD Yugure
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
PC Seki Maru #2
PC Fumi Maru
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Shinko Maru #2
PG Magan Maru
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo
Allied Ships
SS Perch, hits 1
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Sub attack at 55,44
Japanese Ships
AP Haisho Maru, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Snapper
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TF 93 troops unloading over beach at Finschafen, 55,87
Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 6655 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 2410 troops, 9 guns, 1 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese ground losses:
525 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Yenen
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 83747 troops, 937 guns, 8 vehicles
Defending force 27316 troops, 177 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Yenen base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
1825 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
611 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 17926 troops, 208 guns, 1 vehicles
Defending force 17592 troops, 110 guns, 2 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Kuantan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6563 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 13509 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 9038 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 43116 troops, 451 guns, 1 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 952 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 5943 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles
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Ground combat at Tuguegarao
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 7619 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 14460 troops, 245 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/28/41
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ASW attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki
DD Hagikaze
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Akatsuki
DD Mikazuki
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 30,34
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5
Blenheim I x 12
Blenheim IV x 9
Hudson I x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 12
no losses
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Blenheim I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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TF 57 troops unloading over beach at Kavieng, 61,86
Japanese ground losses:
360 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 17983 troops, 209 guns, 1 vehicles
Defending force 17447 troops, 104 guns, 1 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Kuantan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6550 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 13511 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 8979 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 69076 troops, 745 guns, 104 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 961 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 6028 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Tuguegarao
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 7587 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 14468 troops, 246 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/41
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Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88
Japanese Ships
DD Yuzuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 7
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Sub attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
DD Oshio
DD Nowaki
DD Hagikaze
DD Michishio
DD Akatsuki
DD Mikazuki
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 30,34
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 13
Blenheim IV x 11
Hudson I x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 8
no losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
13 x Blenheim I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 27th Chinese Corps, at 50,26
Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 17
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 30,47
Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Arashio
DD Maikaze
DD Arashi
DD Sagiri
DD Hibiki
Allied Ships
SS KXVII
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ASW attack at 30,47
Japanese Ships
DD Asashio
DD Arashio
DD Maikaze
DD Arashi
DD Sagiri
DD Hibiki
Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 1
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ASW attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki
DD Hagikaze
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Akatsuki
DD Mikazuki
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
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ASW attack at 46,45
Japanese Ships
DD Ariake
DD Yugure
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
PC Seki Maru #2
PC Fumi Maru
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Shinko Maru #2
PG Magan Maru
PC Ishigaki
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo
Allied Ships
SS Perch, hits 1
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Sub attack at 55,44
Japanese Ships
AP Haisho Maru, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS Snapper
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TF 93 troops unloading over beach at Finschafen, 55,87
Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 6655 troops, 80 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 2410 troops, 9 guns, 1 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese ground losses:
525 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Yenen
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 83747 troops, 937 guns, 8 vehicles
Defending force 27316 troops, 177 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Yenen base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
1825 casualties reported
Guns lost 17
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
611 casualties reported
Guns lost 16
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 17926 troops, 208 guns, 1 vehicles
Defending force 17592 troops, 110 guns, 2 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Kuantan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6563 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 13509 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 9038 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 43116 troops, 451 guns, 1 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 952 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 5943 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles
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Ground combat at Tuguegarao
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 7619 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 14460 troops, 245 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/28/41
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ASW attack at 34,47
Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki
DD Hagikaze
DD Oshio
DD Michishio
DD Akatsuki
DD Mikazuki
Allied Ships
SS Swordfish
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 30,34
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 5
Blenheim I x 12
Blenheim IV x 9
Hudson I x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 12
no losses
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Blenheim I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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TF 57 troops unloading over beach at Kavieng, 61,86
Japanese ground losses:
360 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 17983 troops, 209 guns, 1 vehicles
Defending force 17447 troops, 104 guns, 1 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Kuantan
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 6550 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 13511 troops, 159 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Georgetown
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 8979 troops, 70 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 69076 troops, 745 guns, 104 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 961 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 6028 troops, 65 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Tuguegarao
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 7587 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 14468 troops, 246 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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RE: 28 Dec 1941
stop THIEF!!!!!!!


RE: 28 Dec 1941
ORIGINAL: Kid
I've got a dilemma in the Philippines. I have a very large focre at Clark Field.
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That is one mother "focre" of a problem![:D] Without knowing too much about WitP land combat (YET[8D]), it looks like you might hold at Clark unless/until the Japanese try to flank you at Lingayen. If they do that, then it might be best to retreat to Bataan at that point...but at least you force him to go around ya! Guess you could also retreat to Manila and have two strongholds (Bataan & Manila) immune to being cutoff, by land at least, in which to hold out as long as possible. Just be sure to have that PT boat ready to take my "boy" out before things get too critical.

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"The Navy has a moth-eaten tradition that the captain who loses his ship is disgraced. What do they have all those ships for, if not to hurl them at the enemy?" --Douglas MacArthur
RE: 28 Dec 1941
since the allied ground forces at georgetown are cut off why not do some shock attacks taking as many japanese as possible?
RE: 28 Dec 1941
By the way Kid, thanks much for the consistent screenshots...they really liven up the thread and make it easier and much more enjoyable to follow. Scrolling through nothing but eye-deadening AARs gets a little tedious sometimes.[&o]
"The Navy has a moth-eaten tradition that the captain who loses his ship is disgraced. What do they have all those ships for, if not to hurl them at the enemy?" --Douglas MacArthur
RE: 28 Dec 1941
what?
Your not going to declare Manila an open city? arnt' you concerned over the citizen's welfare.
MORE PROOF POSITIVE folks that the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere is the WAVE OF THE FUTURE.
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Your not going to declare Manila an open city? arnt' you concerned over the citizen's welfare.
MORE PROOF POSITIVE folks that the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere is the WAVE OF THE FUTURE.
Act now and sign up. Early participants will receive a FREE SNLF unit of their very own to help guide the native populations towards greater happiness and prosperity
RE: 28 Dec 1941
ORIGINAL: daniel123
since the allied ground forces at georgetown are cut off why not do some shock attacks taking as many japanese as possible?
two reasons:
1) if the defender attacks (either deliberate or Shock), he losses his fort bonus for a full turn which, if the counterattack fails, would surely lead to the fall of the base far earlier than if the LCU's sit on the defensive
2) Shock attacks are potentially VERY dangerous now.....dangerous for the ATTACKER. In UV, there wasn't much difference in terms of risk and cost between the two attacks so players Shock attacked till the cows came home. Now.....well if you want an example....go back to Kid's last AAR posting and look at Yennen and Rabaul. The former was successful but still quite costly while Rabaul was a disaster.
RE: 28 Dec 1941
ORIGINAL: daniel123
since the allied ground forces at georgetown are cut off why not do some shock attacks taking as many japanese as possible?
My boys are too outnumbered. Also, in WitP if you set you units to shock attack you lose any benefits for fortifications that turn. I sure as heck don't want to face the yellow horde in an open field.
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