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thebeis
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RE: 1943 Campaign and aircraft problems

Post by thebeis »

Hello again,
I checked for the ship that had the VBF-13 on it. It was an Essex class but I forget which one. (At work).

Found the carrier and VBF-13 was listed as VB-13. Not VBF-13 as I would expect.

Strange.....
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RE: 1943 Campaign and aircraft problems

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US carrier groups are supposed to change in 1944 or so IIRC. But I don't recall for sure how (it's in an appendix at teh end of the manual). I think you should end up with a VF, VBF, VB and VT or something like that. Maybe this is a bug related to that change of organisation.

In any case, you should be able to identify the parent units as USN squadron numbers are usually based on the pennant number of their carrier (I probably have a list somewhere if needed, though it should be obvious from the in game OOB).

I wonder whether the Essex replacement carriers aren't messing up OOB's too. (That's one weird rule, I will have to compare the WitP OOB for CV's, CA's and CL's with historic constructions some time, hadn't payed any attention to that yet).

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RE: 1943 Campaign and aircraft problems

Post by thebeis »

Hello again,
Here is still more information.

VBF-1 is listed in the data base for the Yorktown(Essex Class)
On the Yorktown is VB-1. (Not VBF-1)
VBF-1 is unit ID 2415 which is not in the data base.

VBF-18 is listed in the data base for the Intepid.
The Intrepid has VB-18, not VBF-18.

Same for VBF-13 and the Franklin with VB-13.

The unit IDs for the problem squadrons are:
2415 (VBF-1/2)
2411 (VBF-18/1)
2412 (VBF-1/1)
2417 (VBF-13/1)
None are in the database so these units resulted from something else.
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RE: 1943 Campaign and aircraft problems

Post by pry »

What is the game date? and does any one have a save of this the turn before the 1st group of replacements arrive, just from reading this thread is seems that *maybe* the 1/45 carrier air group change is kicking in early (none of the VBF squadrons are supposed to arrive before 1/45 change)

slots above 2400 are reserved for the computers use, Ie: divided groups and sub units (replacements)

Please send save to pry-witp@houston.rr.com

Thanks

[Edit] After digging deeper into this. there is a data base issue with scenario 12 and the VFB groups and will fix that part.

I still need a save to figure why they are coming into the game early.
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