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RE: Operations in Southeast Asia Begin

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/26/42

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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 14


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Resources hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
8 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Reserve Engineer Regiment, at 108,34


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 38


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 7
Wellington III x 16
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 42


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 4
Wellington III x 31
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 77


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
392 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack at 44,121

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DMS Hopkins
DMS Boggs
DMS Lamberton
DMS Long


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Ground combat at Chungking
Chinese refuse to surrender Chungrad. They will now be destroyed.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 465350 troops, 5444 guns, 640 vehicles

Defending force 217413 troops, 39 guns, 16 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
270 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 30,34
War in Burma begins again.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 91707 troops, 1101 guns, 157 vehicles

Defending force 114425 troops, 1134 guns, 1566 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


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Ground combat at 30,34
Indians have a lot better artillery than Japs.

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109832 troops, 1113 guns, 1458 vehicles

Defending force 192196 troops, 1763 guns, 763 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
1784 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Pagan

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4368 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 548 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Pagan base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!






AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/42


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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 4
B-24D Liberator x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Resources hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 23
Ki-51 Sonia x 82
Ki-21 Sally x 55
Ki-48 Lily x 33
Ki-49 Helen x 21
Ki-46-II Dinah x 7

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
266 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 129

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
22 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
29 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
22 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Reserve Engineer Regiment, at 108,34


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 39


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
16 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Division, at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 3
Wellington III x 26
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 98

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
495 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 30,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 5
Wellington III x 17
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,59


Allied aircraft
Beaufort V-IX x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Kyuei Maru
TK Kaijo Maru #2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 465765 troops, 5448 guns, 641 vehicles

Defending force 216978 troops, 38 guns, 16 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 30,34

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 92233 troops, 1117 guns, 157 vehicles

Defending force 114212 troops, 1122 guns, 1565 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
187 casualties reported
Guns lost 12


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Ground combat at 30,34

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 109503 troops, 1096 guns, 1457 vehicles

Defending force 204440 troops, 1934 guns, 760 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
665 casualties reported
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The Phony War is Over

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/28/42

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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 6
B-24D Liberator x 8


No Allied losses

Resources hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Reserve Engineer Regiment, at 108,34


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 23


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 6
Wellington III x 17
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 41


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 3
Wellington III x 37
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 82


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
222 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
10 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
11 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,55


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3
Brewster 339D x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Chiyoda Maru
PG Busho Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
3 x Swordfish bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

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Ground combat at 30,34
A stunning victory.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 184779 troops, 1942 guns, 760 vehicles

Defending force 114002 troops, 1110 guns, 1562 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
6224 casualties reported
Guns lost 109
Vehicles lost 16

Allied ground losses:
3442 casualties reported
Guns lost 64
Vehicles lost 5


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Chungking
The zenith of IJA power.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 544885 troops, 5910 guns, 927 vehicles

Defending force 217291 troops, 38 guns, 16 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
17250 casualties reported
Guns lost 228
Vehicles lost 19

Allied ground losses:
12277 casualties reported
Guns lost 9


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Ground combat at 30,34
Small Allied rearguard still blocks the door leading to Rangoon.

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 24685 troops, 226 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 196407 troops, 1662 guns, 743 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported






AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/29/42


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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 8
Wellington III x 15
B-17E Fortress x 42


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 5
Wellington III x 38
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 80


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
323 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,56


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Busho Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Sinkep Island at 22,53

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sarangami, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,55


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Akane Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TK Chiyoda Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

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Ground combat at 30,34
Rest of Allied force is driven back into the Moulmein trap.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 176997 troops, 1650 guns, 746 vehicles

Defending force 29123 troops, 242 guns, 106 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 45 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
832 casualties reported
Guns lost 31
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1687 casualties reported
Guns lost 59
Vehicles lost 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Chungking
The Chinese getting prepared for final defeat.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 524451 troops, 5301 guns, 903 vehicles

Defending force 200726 troops, 12 guns, 16 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
10631 casualties reported
Guns lost 244
Vehicles lost 6

Allied ground losses:
13361 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 2
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RE: The Phony War is Over

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Ground combat at Chungking
The zenith of IJA power.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 544885 troops, 5910 guns, 927 vehicles

Defending force 217291 troops, 38 guns, 16 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
17250 casualties reported
Guns lost 228
Vehicles lost 19

Allied ground losses:
12277 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

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RE: The Phony War is Over

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Hi, Did not have time to read every post so forgive me if I mess up here.

First when I took PH in testing I lost 0 CV

I lost many transports and escorts

After I captured PH I discovered no amount of Japanese airpower had any influence on enemy TF outside range but a large force was required to protect PH.

The Allies only have to respond to Japanese efforts that might win the war. They can ignore Japanese efforts that might embarass or cause them discomfort. But if they can not win they are forced to endure.

Here is the great secreat for Japanese players. Don't make the allied player endure what he can endure. Force him to submit to what he cannot permit.

If Japan captures PH before it is indespiable it will be dispenced with.

Since I can not explain this at length I will explain it as simply as I can.

If you don't kill me.... you don't hurt me.
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RE: The Phony War is Over

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/30/42

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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 10
B-24D Liberator x 10


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Resources hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
7 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 23
Ki-51 Sonia x 80
Ki-21 Sally x 57
Ki-48 Lily x 28
Ki-49 Helen x 21
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 168

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
29 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Reserve Engineer Regiment, at 108,34


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 37


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
13 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 26,55


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
TK Akane Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

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Ground combat at Chungking
I thought I had reset all units to bombardment, oh well.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 508924 troops, 4823 guns, 897 vehicles

Defending force 183885 troops, 5 guns, 12 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
5441 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 2






AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/31/42


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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 18
B-24D Liberator x 6


No Allied losses

Resources hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
12 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 23
Ki-51 Sonia x 75
Ki-21 Sally x 56
Ki-48 Lily x 33
Ki-49 Helen x 20
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 182

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
29 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
19 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 3
Wellington III x 29
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 67


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
143 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 33rd Division, at 30,34


Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 3
Wellington III x 16
Hudson I x 1
B-17E Fortress x 38


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,56


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Akane Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

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Ground combat at Chungking
Chinese have lost 40,000 men during the past four days.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 470503 troops, 4853 guns, 622 vehicles

Defending force 177560 troops, 3 guns, 9 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported
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RE: The Phony War is Over

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Well thinks look really bad for me. You would think My troops would retreat towards a place were they could not be trapped. Well they are plain stupid and retreat to mouelim. Now I have a ton of troops cut off with the whole jap army closing in. He will destory the poor Chinese army with over half a million troops and now has close to 300000 troops in lower burma. How he is supplying all of his troops in China and here I have no clue. How he is garisiong the chinese cities I have no clue. Will he take India we will. If he can move supplies over the dirt paths in Northern Burma and Eastern India he will destory the British. My only hope is to move my Army of the South which is assembling in OZ towards the Rabaul and the southern Oil fields. This are my last hopes to knock him out before he knocks me out.
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This is such a facinating AAR!!!
I've really enjoyed reading it.
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The Witch is Dead

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/01/43

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TF 26 troops unloading over beach at Andaman Island, 23,34


Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 9
B-24D Liberator x 9

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Resources hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rahaeng , at 31,35

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 22

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 15

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Day Air attack on 38th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 2
B-17E Fortress x 42

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 29,35

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 17
Wellington III x 39
P-40E Warhawk x 17
B-17E Fortress x 88

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
415 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
10 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,57

Allied aircraft
Beaufort V-IX x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Akane Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Chungking
The fall of Chungrad is a monumental disaster for the Allied cause.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 528268 troops, 5047 guns, 900 vehicles

Defending force 178762 troops, 3 guns, 9 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chungking base !!!


Allied aircraft
no flights

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9159 casualties reported
Guns lost 235
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
301592 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 4


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Ground combat at Moulmein

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 99231 troops, 977 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 154215 troops, 1482 guns, 1191 vehicles



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Ground combat at Moulmein
Allies are really good at bombardments.

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 139422 troops, 1436 guns, 1105 vehicles

Defending force 112380 troops, 991 guns, 452 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
788 casualties reported
Guns lost 20




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/02/43


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Night Air attack on Saigon , at 31,46

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 10
B-24D Liberator x 8

No Allied losses

Resources hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 3000 feet
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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Coastal Guns at Gili Gili, 56,94, firing at TF 1070
TF 1070 troops unloading over beach at Gili Gili, 56,94
Allies preparing their first counteroffensive in the Pacific.


Allied ground losses:
250 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Gili Gili, 56,94, firing at TF 1099
TF 1099 troops unloading over beach at Gili Gili, 56,94


4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
239 casualties reported

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ASW attack at 56,43
No hits on several ASW attacks.

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze
DD Kuroshio
DD Tanikaze
DD Kikuzuki
DD Asagao
DD Kamikaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Sazanami
DD Shinonome
DD Inazuma

Allied Ships
SS Grunion

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ASW attack at 57,44

Japanese Ships
DD Karukaya
DD Fuyo
DD Sanae
DD Yakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Hatsushima
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shigure
DD Maikaze
DD Makigumo
DD Akigumo

Allied Ships
SS Pogy

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Sub attack at 57,42

Japanese Ships
DD Natsugumo
DD Numakaze
DD Satsuki
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Asagumo
DD Yamagumo
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Teruzuki

Allied Ships
SS Grampus

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ASW attack at 57,44

Japanese Ships
DD Karukaya
DD Fuyo
DD Sanae
DD Yakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Hatsushima
DD Hatsuharu
DD Shigure
DD Maikaze
DD Makigumo
DD Akigumo

Allied Ships
SS Pogy


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Ground combat at Moulmein

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 101648 troops, 1047 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 153883 troops, 1475 guns, 1187 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


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Ground combat at Gili Gili
Not many Japanese here.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 682 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1554 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Moulmein
Once I pocket this group the entire Indian subcontinent will be in play.

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 138964 troops, 1421 guns, 1101 vehicles

Defending force 119286 troops, 1050 guns, 456 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
408 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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ORIGINAL: Zeta16

Well thinks look really bad for me. You would think My troops would retreat towards a place were they could not be trapped. Well they are plain stupid and retreat to mouelim. Now I have a ton of troops cut off with the whole jap army closing in. He will destory the poor Chinese army with over half a million troops and now has close to 300000 troops in lower burma.

This is a huge problem with the game. There should be away to do more orderly withdraws. Same thing has happened in the Phillippines in several games.
How he is supplying all of his troops in China and here I have no clue. How he is garisiong the chinese cities I have no clue.

During the Phony War I sent several supply convoys to Southeast Asia. China basically feeds itself with the occasional convoy if needed.
My only hope is to move my Army of the South which is assembling in OZ towards the Rabaul and the southern Oil fields. This are my last hopes to knock him out before he knocks me out.

The IJN has been rested and is prepared to be sunk.
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ORIGINAL: WiTP_Dude

Ground combat at Chungking
The fall of Chungrad is a monumental disaster for the Allied cause.

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 528268 troops, 5047 guns, 900 vehicles

Defending force 178762 troops, 3 guns, 9 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chungking base !!!


Allied aircraft
no flights

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9159 casualties reported
Guns lost 235
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
301592 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 4


Awesome, congrats! It would be interesting to see what the score looks like after that ... Personally I would also be interested to know what ground units were involved, if that's not classified.
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The overall situation in China:

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The Japanese Horde:

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Hopefully this will convince more Allied players to pay attention to China.

Winning China is the only way for Japan to win the war.
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Holy hell, that's frightening.

China can't stand up to that. There's just too much space to cover and not enough well-armed Chinese.

If you want to knock them out, head for Kuching - quick..
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Thing that pisses me off if that there was only one unit blocking my troops from behind. So I guess that means 300000 some troops will just quit becasue of this, what a joke.
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No heroic breakouts in this game. [:'(]
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ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi, Did not have time to read every post so forgive me if I mess up here.

First when I took PH in testing I lost 0 CV

I lost many transports and escorts

After I captured PH I discovered no amount of Japanese airpower had any influence on enemy TF outside range but a large force was required to protect PH.

The Allies only have to respond to Japanese efforts that might win the war. They can ignore Japanese efforts that might embarass or cause them discomfort. But if they can not win they are forced to endure.

Here is the great secreat for Japanese players. Don't make the allied player endure what he can endure. Force him to submit to what he cannot permit.

If Japan captures PH before it is indespiable it will be dispenced with.

Since I can not explain this at length I will explain it as simply as I can.

If you don't kill me.... you don't hurt me.

Mog - when you tested this, did you do it head-to-head, against the AI, or against a human player? And what was the time frame - early 42, mid-42, later?

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Thing that pisses me off if that there was only one unit blocking my troops from behind. So I guess that means 300000 some troops will just quit becasue of this, what a joke.

If they don't change land combat/movement in one of the upcoming patches then many of us are going to have to re-learn everything we've ever learned about handling land combat in war games (even GG's war games).

The other thing that just doesn't seem right about LCUs is that they can take so much punishment from the air with little or no effect. In WW II, a division that was on the move (not dug into a prepared position) was very vulnerable to severe disruption due to air attacks. And in WitP you can easily amass very large air groups to essentially carpet bomb a region. But the effect on ground troops is minimal at best.

You should be able to bomb that one unit behind you into oblivion, but no matter how many bombers you amass, you will never make a difference. Nor can you send any troops off to engage the troops behind you. (Somebody please explain to me why this is supposed to be "realistic".)

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I posted a similar comment on the Wobbly AAR and I want to make it clear that I am not in ANY WAY disparaging the wonderful play by the Japanese player here!

With that caveat clear, this AAR and Wobbly's have highlighted that there remains major flaws in the way the game simulates the Chinese conflict. There is no way any army, much less the Japanese non-mechanized army of this era could supply 550K troops inland to Chunking. No way, no how.

The game is great in the naval/air interaction and in the small invasion conflicts, but it simply fails to model the large scale land campaign in China and--upcoming in this game apparently and already present in Wobbly's fine effort--the Indian subcontinent.

It suggests that this theater should be left on computer control and concentrate on the parts of the game that work.

Strong opinion, I know, but does anyone REALLY think that In The Real World this could have possibly happened? Sure it is fun to baby kill the Chinese with the Japs, but it is not WW2. This is, to my mind, supposed to be a simulation first and foremost, and a game second. This Chinese/Indian gambit is a game tactic, not a simulation. All IMO of course. Others?

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