Lunatic(Nomad) Allies vs Maniac(Mogomi) Japan

[mogami]

Hi, I don't think it is the program not updating I think it was just a matter of recon. (The screwy numbers are a hint since he reported more active then even exists)

[AmiralLaurent]

Hi, Nomad. If you want to know the real state of city targets (HI, oil, ressources) set one of your unit with enough range to city attack and the game will display the real numbers without FOW.

[mogami]

Hi, I have a problem with my email. Outlook express keeps giving an error. I will fix as soon as I can

[Nomad]

Now that Maniac Mogami has updated his computer I guess I should update the AAR.

So, we just did 1/1/42 execution, and one item I liked:

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 144633 troops, 1622 guns, 267 vehicles

Defending force 61237 troops, 521 guns, 166 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
8885 casualties reported This is good [:D]
Guns lost 208 This is not bad either
Vehicles lost 26

Allied ground losses:
1321 casualties reported
Guns lost 65
Vehicles lost 3


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I think this might have been the first turn that no base was captured by Mogami.

I do not like the looks of this:

SIG INT REPORT FOR 01/01/42

1st Mixed Brigade is planning for an attack on Uglahamensk.

It does look like Maniac Mogami is headed to Russia. [:'(]

I moved all of the Russian aircraft to rear area bases, I will try to not get them killed on the first turn.

He hasn't taken all of the SRA yet, so I think a Russian attack might be a few days down the road. But, the only important oil base left in the SRA is Batavia. And he has troops commited to Malaya and a few in Burma. [:(][X(][8|]

I have no idea what or when Maniac Mogami is going to do. I don't even want to think about it. I'm going to have some down at Bullwinkles.

[Nomad]

things are still somewhat slow, I am sure Mog is planning some 'Shock and Awe' [:D]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/06/42

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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 20


Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 20000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on 11th PA Division, at 46,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 10

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 88th USA Field Artillery Regiment, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 19
Ki-27 Nate x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 33
Ki-48 Lily x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 6 damaged


Allied ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 10000 feet
14 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 10000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3876 troops, 132 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 60256 troops, 466 guns, 178 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at 29,33

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5066 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 5471 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
189 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 36727 troops, 413 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 141221 troops, 1409 guns, 336 vehicles

[Nomad]

the Bad news:

SIG INT REPORT FOR 01/13/42

( snip )
34th Division is planning for an attack on Vladivostok.

The Terrible News:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/13/42

( snip )
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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 230857 troops, 2271 guns, 351 vehicles

Defending force 59019 troops, 470 guns, 185 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
4821 casualties reported
Guns lost 115
Vehicles lost 14

Allied ground losses:
33078 casualties reported
Guns lost 391
Vehicles lost 112


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this is not looking good at all. [:(][:@][&:] It really is time for


I don't remember if I posted it, but I did change the North Pacific Command to arrive at Karachi. I have North Pacific Units landing at Karachi all ready( fast boat trip [:D] ) I'm not sure if this is considered 'gamey' or not, but this is the gamy game here anyway. Most of my PI troops were in manila so Mog will be able to take the last 3 bases with little effort and I expect he is all ready moving APs to Manila to move his LCUs to start the Russian invasion. [X(][:(][:'(]

Well, no sense worring about russia, I can't do a damn thing about it. but like Big Mac always said and of course

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Nomad
I don't remember if I posted it, but I did change the North Pacific Command to arrive at Karachi. I have North Pacific Units landing at Karachi all ready( fast boat trip [:D] )

How do you do that? I mean make NP units arrive at Karachi?

Another question is WHY would you do that but I can think of couple reasons here myself [:D]

O.

[Nomad]

Well Oleg, I just paid the PPs to changed NP to be a SEAC unit. The next turn it disappeared and was scheduled to arrive in Karachi in 60 days. All units reporting to NP now arrive in Karachi. This is a wide open, gamey to the max game so unlike the real life people I do not care that much if Mog takes some of the bases in the NP. On the other hand the Inf Regiments and SeaBee units will be very useful in India. [:D]

[WhoCares]

Can you assign a West Coast command to Russia? [:'(][;)][:D]

Edit: Of course only after the russian activation...

[Oleg Mastruko]

ORIGINAL: Nomad

Well Oleg, I just paid the PPs to changed NP to be a SEAC unit. The next turn it disappeared and was scheduled to arrive in Karachi in 60 days. All units reporting to NP now arrive in Karachi. This is a wide open, gamey to the max game so unlike the real life people I do not care that much if Mog takes some of the bases in the NP. On the other hand the Inf Regiments and SeaBee units will be very useful in India. [:D]

Great trick. The amount of gameyness available to Allied player does not stop to amaze me even after many months of playing this game. This is yet another house rule I need to add to the list when playing my "serious" IJN games [8D]

O.

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

ORIGINAL: Nomad

Well Oleg, I just paid the PPs to changed NP to be a SEAC unit. The next turn it disappeared and was scheduled to arrive in Karachi in 60 days. All units reporting to NP now arrive in Karachi. This is a wide open, gamey to the max game so unlike the real life people I do not care that much if Mog takes some of the bases in the NP. On the other hand the Inf Regiments and SeaBee units will be very useful in India. [:D]

Great trick. The amount of gameyness available to Allied player does not stop to amaze me even after many months of playing this game. This is yet another house rule I need to add to the list when playing my "serious" IJN games [8D]

O.

Don't think this is gamey (for the most part, at least in moving regular LCUs) - it was deliberately built into the game to simulate shipping troops around the Cape of Good Hope to India. Sixty days seems about right for this.

Moving static CD units from West Coast to Karachi would be considered "gamey" by almost anyone, though!![:'(]

[PimpYourAFV]

Okay here we go everyone. This post is to start oddsmaking on who thinks who's gonna win the war. Same as is done before major UFC fights, viewers can state who they think will win and an explanation for their choices. Everyone is welcome!! Even dumb newbies like me.

Once a few people have participated I will begin a running odds value. Please pick one player to win, don't say "I don't know cause they are both doing everything so well. I vote for both." or something lame like that. I will add my choice and explanation when I've finished reading this report.

So who do you think is gonna win everyone? [:)]

[Nomad]

Are you kidding? I'm going to win. [:D]

MOGAMI

BTW:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/16/42

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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 13th Indian Brigade, at 29,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 24

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged Unescorted bombers?



Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 38,37 This is the hex to the East of Hanoi, just on the Chinese side of the border

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 51064 troops, 656 guns, 7 vehicles

Defending force 21829 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
3035 casualties reported I kind of like these. [:)]
Guns lost 101
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

That was the entire combat report for that turn. I'll post a set of pictures and such when we get to 2/1/42.

[Monter_Trismegistos]

I'll also put my 0.20 PLN on Nomad. Mogami promissed Lunacy game... and give us another boring resource-battle.

[Nomad]

I noticed that TBT picked Tom and Oleg to win but not me? [&:][:@][:(] to TBT.

and after some . Oops, its 7:00 AM here, better lay off the

[Andy Mac]

rtrapasso I dont think its at all gamey to pay pp points for each unit to transfer them to India what I think we would all find gamey is to send an HQ like NorPac to karachi and then for the computer to automatically (and for free PP points wse) transfer every unit reporting to that HQ in the reinforcement que to Karachi.

In a no limits game fine but I would balk over this in anyother game as this is saving the allied player thousands of points and 60 days.

Its great in this game theough !!!

Andy

[Nomad]

I would agree here Andy. One thing is that all the reinforcements still arrive at the same time at Karachi as they would have at SF. If a 60 day delay was built in for them it would be ok to do in any game for me. But not the way it is. Only in this wide open game.

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

rtrapasso I dont think its at all gamey to pay pp points for each unit to transfer them to India what I think we would all find gamey is to send an HQ like NorPac to karachi and then for the computer to automatically (and for free PP points wse) transfer every unit reporting to that HQ in the reinforcement que to Karachi.

In a no limits game fine but I would balk over this in anyother game as this is saving the allied player thousands of points and 60 days.

Its great in this game theough !!!

Andy

The way i understand PP(i could be wrong) is if you transfer the HQ unit (i.e. ABDA to SWPAC) units that arrive or are already present are still assigned to ABDA - but ABDA as a unit is no longer in command. I think you would be shooting yourself in the foot somewhat if you tried assigning NORPAC to SEASIA. Your arriving NORPAC units would stay on the West Coast, but their commander would be 10000 miles away.

[Nomad]

The existing NorPac units on the map are a bit far from their HQ, but that can be changed later if necessary. The units in the reinforcement que are arriving at Karachi( some are there now [:D] ).

[Nomad]

In my last email to/from Mogami:

Me:
Looks like russian invasion is soon. PI is pretty clear( Bataan will be easy ), Batavia should fall this turn. Will you
clear out Malaya first? Or not worry about it?

Mog:
I don't see how I can do without Singapore.
There are 344 turns before the first AV check. In order to get AV Japan must inflict high enemy loss while keeping own low. Japan must aquire many bases. Japan will however run out of supply in the spring if resource/oil not enroute home so the SRA remains critical to plan.
The basic plan is simple. Rather then have SAA fight the war alone Kwantung and CEA will help by moving towards locations that do not require loading onto ships (spending PP)
This will result in SAA having more then double the historic number of units for use against locations that do require transport on ship.

If Phase II of SAA Operations can begin prior to 1 May 1942 then Japan is ahead of historic schedule with double the strength. Historically Batan lasted till mid May. Singapore till mid Feb

Combat Report:
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/20/42

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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Buffalo I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 6th Indian Brigade, at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 15th Indian Brigade, at 24,44

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 51

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
16 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 13th Indian Brigade, at 29,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34

No Japanese losses


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Ground combat at Bataan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 115525 troops, 1346 guns, 124 vehicles

Defending force 12013 troops, 152 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan base !!! A BIG oops


Japanese ground losses:
657 casualties reported
Guns lost 19
Vehicles lost 7

Allied ground losses:
14381 casualties reported
Guns lost 71


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Ground combat at Batavia

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2648 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 20366 troops, 125 guns, 10 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

All but a couple of minor islands of the PI are in the hands of Japan. Only Batavia remains on Java. No serious activity in Malaya yet, but it is coming.

Here is a status screen as of 1/20/42. Not looking real good. I will lose a bunch in Malaya, can't help it at this time. I am pinning most of my hopes on holding India. there are a lot of points availabe to Mog in India. Maybe I can force some losses on him in the future. I still do not know where KB is now. When/if I know I could try some raids into his are to gain a few points.