Clash in Finland. Aztez (A) vs Sardaukar (J). CHS + NIK

[Sardaukar]

Yea, was trying to mod some things...and also play against AI... To my dismay, I had things like divisions teleport from TF back to Aden etc. after sailing for week and so. Not to mention I discovered that some bases switch of from building no matter what...[X(][:@]. Kinda fed up to discover new uncanny BS in every WitP game...

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Yea, was trying to mod some things...and also play against AI... To my dismay, I had things like divisions teleport from TF back to Aden etc. after sailing for week and so. Not to mention I discovered that some bases switch of from building no matter what...[X(][:@]. Kinda fed up to discover new uncanny BS in every WitP game...

Hmpf. That is one of the main reasons why I haven't even bothered with Witp editor [:(]

That really is bullshit as you said! [8|]

[Sardaukar]

Not to mention one can easily destroy weeks of work in one's scenario because of totally unwieldy editor that just have a habit to move every slot one forward or back when trying to insert stuff... I cannot imagine what kind of editors folks are used to when they can use that one....

[Sardaukar]

More battle...damn Allied ASW is getting better...[:'(]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/29/41

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ASW attack at 45,45

Japanese Ships
MSW Choun Maru #7
MSW Choun Maru #6
MSW Banshu Maru #56
MSW Banshu Maru #52
APD Patrol Boat No. 2
APD Patrol Boat No. 1

Allied Ships
SS Pike

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ASW attack at 115,74

Japanese Ships
SS I-2, hits 8

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin
DMS Dorsey
DMS Elliot
DMS Southard
DMS Long
DMS Hopkins

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ASW attack at 44,62

Japanese Ships
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied Ships
SS Searaven

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ASW attack at 45,45

Japanese Ships
DD Ikazuchi
DD Samidare
DD Yamagumo
DD Natsugumo

Allied Ships
SS Pike, hits 4, on fire

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ASW attack at 46,48

Japanese Ships
DD Fumizuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

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ASW attack at 115,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-4, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Dale
MSW Grebe
MSW Tern
MSW Turkey
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Perry

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Sub attack at 47,52

Japanese Ships
AK Ohio Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 31
PC Ch 28

Allied Ships
SS Snapper

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ASW attack at 44,62

Japanese Ships
AP Kureha Maru #3
PG Oi Maru
PG Hong Kong Maru

Allied Ships
SS Searaven

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 15 damaged


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
G4M1 Betty x 104
C5M Babs x 5
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5
Ki-15 Babs x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 47th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 49,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 9

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 88th Chinese Corps, at 50,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 21
Ki-21-II Sally x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 6
Ki-51 Sonia x 70
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
36 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-21-II Sally x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 44,62


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Karimo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 8000 feet
1 x Hudson I bombing at 8000 feet
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Sub attack at 47,52

Japanese Ships
AK Norway Maru
AP Unkai Maru #3
PC Ch 31
PC Ch 28

Allied Ships
SS Snapper

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ASW attack at 112,74

Japanese Ships
SS I-24, hits 6

Allied Ships
DD Worden
DD MacDonough
DD Tucker
MSW Bobolink
DD Hull

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ASW attack at 112,74

Japanese Ships
SS I-24

Allied Ships
DD Worden
DD Tucker
MSW Bobolink

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ASW attack at 116,70

Japanese Ships
SS I-18, hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DD Phelps
DD Selfridge
DD Reid
DD Conyngham
DD Case

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ASW attack at 44,62

Japanese Ships
PG Oi Maru
PG Hong Kong Maru

Allied Ships
SS Searaven


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 34293 troops, 126 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 805

Defending force 32237 troops, 259 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 555



Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Lucena

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4176 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 181

Defending force 4413 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Japanese max assault: 102 - adjusted assault: 21

Allied max defense: 139 - adjusted defense: 39

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Ichang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21152 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 477

Defending force 22800 troops, 121 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 703

Japanese max assault: 501 - adjusted assault: 37

Allied max defense: 690 - adjusted defense: 73

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
712 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Allied ground losses:
507 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at 48,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40482 troops, 206 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 937

Defending force 17123 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 523

Japanese max assault: 998 - adjusted assault: 507

Allied max defense: 516 - adjusted defense: 1126

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
890 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Allied ground losses:
183 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2951 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 552

Defending force 35733 troops, 126 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 805


Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

[Sardaukar]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/30/41


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ASW attack at 36,43

Japanese Ships
AP Kobe Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Nishho Maru
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Iwate
PG Idzumo

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf

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ASW attack at 46,48

Japanese Ships
DD Fumizuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

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ASW attack at 46,48

Japanese Ships
DD Fumizuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise

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Day Air attack on 47th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 49,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 15th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 52,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 20th Chinese Corps, at 50,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 7

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 51st Chinese Guer. Corps, at 51,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 14
Ki-21-II Sally x 16

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
5 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-51 Sonia x 71
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
27 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-21-II Sally x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Ichang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1076 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 604

Defending force 52569 troops, 262 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1626



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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 33895 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 833

Defending force 32741 troops, 268 guns, 193 vehicles, Assault Value = 558



Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3029 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 557

Defending force 38355 troops, 127 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 833


Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

[aztez]

Here is an screenshot from China...

[Rob Brennan UK]

Hi guys

nice piccie , we need more and i like the conversational stuff, frankly i havnt the patience to trawl through the combat report as im a lazy git [;)] , so summaries=good ! ..

Sardukar what are you trying to do with your mod ? maybe you can get some more informed feedback or help in the mod forum , if you havn't already. and you can't be serious about wishing you never had WitP even with its faults you seem keen to play it [:D]

[Sardaukar]

Well, extent of frustration with WitP is quite extreme time to time. I'm just trying to experiment with different ways to simulate air-to-air combat and ship/sub radars etc. Testing goes well, but when I play against AI recreationally (for example CHS2.08) I tend to find new weird stuff that WitP engine does quite regularly. Now the CHS A2A model is fine...it's just that Ground and Economic/Supply models shows it's flaws again...and again...and.. You get the drift from that...[:'(]

[aztez]

It sounds like you would want to hammer "something"...  [:D][:D]
 
I think that Economy/Supply models are beyond salvation... [8|] 
 
Ron is trying something new in his new AAR though.

[Sardaukar]

Kind of routine..even though I seem to suffer ridiculous losses in China...well..troops are cheap & cheerful..

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/31/41

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TF 13 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (43,42)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.3

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ASW attack at 113,75

Japanese Ships
SS I-170

Allied Ships
DD Cassin
DMS Boggs
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane
DMS Hovey
DD Chew

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ASW attack at 113,75

Japanese Ships
SS I-170, hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Cassin
DMS Boggs
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane
DMS Hovey
DD Chew

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Sub attack at 115,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
AK Pennsylvanian, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Susan Luckenbach
DD Brooks

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TF 13 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (43,42)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.3

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported

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ASW attack at 30,47

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #6
PG Sozan Maru
PG Eifuku Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-40

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Day Air attack on 23rd Group Army, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 47th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 49,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 25th Chinese Corps, at 50,39

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-21-II Sally x 20

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4
Ki-51 Sonia x 70
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
34 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 21
Ki-21-II Sally x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Lucena

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17920 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 338

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 269 - adjusted assault: 210

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 210 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lucena base !!!



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Ground combat at Ichang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27258 troops, 141 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 610

Defending force 55776 troops, 261 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1631

Japanese max assault: 444 - adjusted assault: 137

Allied max defense: 1598 - adjusted defense: 363

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
2187 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 5


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Ground combat at 48,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 39190 troops, 195 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 868

Defending force 16939 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 513

Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 236

Allied max defense: 506 - adjusted defense: 409

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1925 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Allied ground losses:
281 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


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Ground combat at Wuchow

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 66553 troops, 353 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1425

Defending force 38818 troops, 202 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 914

Japanese max assault: 1308 - adjusted assault: 666

Allied max defense: 944 - adjusted defense: 538

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
1969 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 33969 troops, 132 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 857

Defending force 33140 troops, 276 guns, 202 vehicles, Assault Value = 571



Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at 52,33

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2860 troops, 0 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 81

Defending force 841 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 32

Japanese max assault: 81 - adjusted assault: 40

Allied max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at 22,49

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 55369 troops, 261 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 1908

Defending force 3063 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 52

Japanese max assault: 1232 - adjusted assault: 578

Allied max defense: 43 - adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 115 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
323 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Ichang

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52586 troops, 256 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1629

Defending force 23199 troops, 106 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 404

Allied max assault: 1468 - adjusted assault: 686

Japanese max defense: 220 - adjusted defense: 845

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
418 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3017 troops, 68 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 571

Defending force 40973 troops, 132 guns, 38 vehicles, Assault Value = 857


Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[Sardaukar]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/01/42


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ASW attack at 114,74

Japanese Ships
SS I-22, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Dale
MSW Grebe
MSW Tern
MSW Turkey
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Perry

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TF 13 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (43,42)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.3

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Day Air attack on 23rd Group Army, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,34


Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 61
G4M1 Betty x 108
C5M Babs x 4
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4
Ki-15 Babs x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
C5M Babs: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
150 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 47th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 49,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 18
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 15th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 52,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 51st Chinese Guer. Corps, at 51,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3
Ki-51 Sonia x 75
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
27 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
36 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on No. 107 RAF Base Force, at 29,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 24

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 6
Ki-21-II Sally x 21

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 damaged


Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
8 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Ichang

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1044 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 866

Defending force 55147 troops, 234 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1596



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Ground combat at Wuchow

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 63038 troops, 305 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1252

Defending force 38427 troops, 193 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 911

Japanese max assault: 668 - adjusted assault: 365

Allied max defense: 940 - adjusted defense: 685

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
2191 casualties reported
Guns lost 34

Allied ground losses:
765 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 32322 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 867

Defending force 33286 troops, 276 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 580



Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2871 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 580

Defending force 41281 troops, 136 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 867


Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[Sardaukar]

About only things that work in WitP the way that doesn't make me angry are A-to-A now in this scenario and part of Naval combat. This game doesn't suit well for casual gaming...and when playing it seriously all the faults surface. And then I lose the "suspension of disbelief".

Recently I noticed that 1.8.00.1 nerfed IJ air-ASW out of existence. Just cannot get 80+ exp flying boats and level bombers get attacks against Allied subs no matter what... Catalinas attack mine from similar distances all the time..and I know they are not as experiences..yet. I dread when we get to 4/42 and US subs get SD radar...my invention to CHS even...[X(] That should make them even more invulnerable...

I think it's yet another hard-coded BS-thing. What I have seen is that with every patch, "pendulum" seems to swing from one extreme to another...[:@] In next patch I fully expect to see subs being again too vulnerable...[8|]

I really should shelve this game for year or 2 and check it then again. It just annoys me a lot nowadays.

[Sardaukar]

Back to PBEM game:

Things are locked in China, except that IJA is slowly trying to get rid of those Chinese Guerilla units.
In Philippines things go slowly too. And my troops just reached the Moulmein in Burma..so not quite a blitzgrieg there too. This map and scenario is very hard for Japan, forcing very slow advance.
I have some "dashing" naval moves planned for near future, though....[:'(]

[aztez]

My PBY Catalinas do "reportedly" strike againts submarines but I doubt they do any damage though! [:(]
 
The big battles are just coming in Philippines. I have plenty of supplies stockpiled in every major base in Central Pacific. So, it is not going to be pretty! [;)]
 
Sardaukar is active in China and I will try to the same. Those guerilla regiments can be really annoying for him and they cannot be wiped out easily! [:D]

[aztez]

I decieded to include a screenshot from aircraft losses. Flak has downed quite a few ac's in this CHS scenario. As it should have so Í think these are quite reasonable.

[Rob Brennan UK]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

About only things that work in WitP the way that doesn't make me angry are A-to-A now in this scenario and part of Naval combat. This game doesn't suit well for casual gaming...and when playing it seriously all the faults surface. And then I lose the "suspension of disbelief".

Recently I noticed that 1.8.00.1 nerfed IJ air-ASW out of existence. Just cannot get 80+ exp flying boats and level bombers get attacks against Allied subs no matter what... Catalinas attack mine from similar distances all the time..and I know they are not as experiences..yet. I dread when we get to 4/42 and US subs get SD radar...my invention to CHS even...[X(] That should make them even more invulnerable...

I think it's yet another hard-coded BS-thing. What I have seen is that with every patch, "pendulum" seems to swing from one extreme to another...[:@] In next patch I fully expect to see subs being again too vulnerable...[8|]

I really should shelve this game for year or 2 and check it then again. It just annoys me a lot nowadays.

Im having the total opposite experience with 1.8.01 far from nerfing jap asw a/c regular sally/lily attacks on my subs at sea while even high exp hudsons are useless.

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

About only things that work in WitP the way that doesn't make me angry are A-to-A now in this scenario and part of Naval combat. This game doesn't suit well for casual gaming...and when playing it seriously all the faults surface. And then I lose the "suspension of disbelief".

Recently I noticed that 1.8.00.1 nerfed IJ air-ASW out of existence. Just cannot get 80+ exp flying boats and level bombers get attacks against Allied subs no matter what... Catalinas attack mine from similar distances all the time..and I know they are not as experiences..yet. I dread when we get to 4/42 and US subs get SD radar...my invention to CHS even...[X(] That should make them even more invulnerable...

I think it's yet another hard-coded BS-thing. What I have seen is that with every patch, "pendulum" seems to swing from one extreme to another...[:@] In next patch I fully expect to see subs being again too vulnerable...[8|]

I really should shelve this game for year or 2 and check it then again. It just annoys me a lot nowadays.

Im having the total opposite experience with 1.8.01 far from nerfing jap asw a/c regular sally/lily attacks on my subs at sea while even high exp hudsons are useless.

Actually FDR is killing my submarine fleet with his ASW efforts and TF's. I have had to withdrawn from the vicinity of Japan. This ofcourse is stock PBEM but we are using the latest patch though! [:)]

[Sardaukar]

Weird...had several air units on ASW/Naval Search at 2000 ft and never got hits in this game... Even more strange is that it's different in other game I play against AI where I regularly hit enemy subs...[X(] Aztez has gotten hits in this game, just not killing hits.

[Sardaukar]

Not a turn without glitches. Getting tired to reset units after they have moved 75 km of 60 km...and never arrive.[:@]
This is quickly turning to a chore and not fun. Just checked that I have 100+ planes flying ASW/Naval Search with 100 % at 2000 ft. So far have had 1 attack and 0 hits from game start...all on area that is crawling with Allied subs since my ASW TFs find them daily. Exp varies from 78 to 82. They also fly since mission count increases. Donno what is the matter since during same time Aztez air ASW has hit 7-8 subs...and those 250-pounders Catalinas use in ASW do hurt subs. Just cannot get why the IJNAAF/IJAAF air ASW is not working in this game. Half of the IJN sub fleet is already in repairs even when losses have been few.
 
Well... I do not know any change made to CHS that'd benefit Japan...[:'(]...I'd call this an Allied-fanboy's wet dream...[:D] Probably will not be able to take anything closely what Japan did historically. CHS probably needs *way* more experienced Japanese player than I am.
 
About only good thing is that Chinese *will* run out of supplies south and east of those big rivers after their added integral supply is used.

[Sardaukar]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/02/42

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TF 13 encounters mine field at Hong Kong (43,42)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.3

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ASW attack at 48,48

Japanese Ships
APD Patrol Boat No. 39
APD Patrol Boat No. 38
APD Patrol Boat No. 36
APD Patrol Boat No. 35
APD Patrol Boat No. 34
APD Patrol Boat No. 32

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, hits 4

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ASW attack at 115,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-4, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin
DMS Dorsey
DMS Elliot
DMS Southard
DMS Long
DMS Hopkins

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ASW attack at 43,45

Japanese Ships
PG Aso Maru
PG Akitsu Maru
DD Yudachi
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS Shark, hits 4

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ASW attack at 35,46

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Urakaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Isokaze
DD Kagero
CL Abukuma
CV Zuikaku

Allied Ships
SS S-41, hits 2

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ASW attack at 43,45

Japanese Ships
PG Aso Maru
PG Akitsu Maru
DD Yudachi
DD Murasame
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS Shark

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ASW attack at 35,46

Japanese Ships
DD Hamakaze
DD Urakaze
DD Shiranuhi
DD Isokaze
DD Kagero

Allied Ships
SS S-41, hits 1

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Sub attack at 115,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-4

Allied Ships
DD Reid
DD Farragut
DD Phelps
DD Selfridge
DD Conyngham
DD Case

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 92

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 7 destroyed, 61 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 11 damaged


Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 55
G4M1 Betty x 98
C5M Babs x 3
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 7 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
12 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 47th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 49,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 22
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 15th Chinese Guer. Corps, at 52,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 10
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 51st Chinese Guer. Corps, at 51,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 7
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 208th (Div) Chinese Corps, at 46,41

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 15
Ki-21-II Sally x 18

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on No. 107 RAF Base Force, at 29,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 24

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at 48,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35776 troops, 160 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 704

Defending force 16556 troops, 90 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 498

Japanese max assault: 450 - adjusted assault: 115

Allied max defense: 492 - adjusted defense: 337

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
2487 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at 50,39

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 74012 troops, 336 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1795

Defending force 41433 troops, 213 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 1243

Japanese max assault: 1649 - adjusted assault: 318

Allied max defense: 1198 - adjusted defense: 425

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
3173 casualties reported
Guns lost 29
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Wuchow

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 38789 troops, 187 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1113

Defending force 37525 troops, 180 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 901



Allied ground losses:
266 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 34293 troops, 143 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 873

Defending force 33415 troops, 283 guns, 209 vehicles, Assault Value = 589



Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Malacca

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2256 troops, 0 guns, 60 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 564 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 54 - adjusted assault: 56

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 56 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Malacca base !!!



Allied ground losses:
1177 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


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Ground combat at Moulmein

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1848 troops, 0 guns, 52 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Defending force 1952 troops, 16 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 48 - adjusted assault: 22

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Ichang

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51965 troops, 231 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1833

Defending force 43176 troops, 219 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 871

Allied max assault: 648 - adjusted assault: 91

Japanese max defense: 814 - adjusted defense: 1371

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
2325 casualties reported
Guns lost 65


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2902 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 589

Defending force 41542 troops, 143 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 873


Japanese ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 2