How do I win?

Miller · Post by **Miller** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:40 pm

[:D]

Canoerebel · Post by **Canoerebel** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:41 pm

LOL

You ready to PLAY!

88l71 · Post by **88l71** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:41 pm

How to win:

Kill stuff. Kill lots of stuff.

Miller · Post by **Miller** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:42 pm

Need a few days to get my head round it first.....

Knavey · Post by **Knavey** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:11 pm

Victory points!

John Lansford · Post by **John Lansford** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:15 pm

Blow things up and kill people.  The more you blow up and kill, the higher your score.
 
It's kind of like a pinball machine, in fact.

AW1Steve · Post by **AW1Steve** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:16 pm

BY not losing! [:D]

whippleofd · Post by **whippleofd** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:04 pm

ORIGINAL: Miller

[:D]

The only way to win is to not start playing.

Whipple

Historiker · Post by **Historiker** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:33 pm

There was this funny thread about ways to win as Japs...

Options like:
Never send your second turn back.
Buy american war bonds. You'll still loose, but you'll be damn rich after the war

anyone has it in his (her?[:D]) bookmarks?

Fletcher · Post by **Fletcher** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:22 am

Like CSA in any american civil war (i.e.VG)you must to play to avoid the defeat. I think that the best option is thinking at Victory points, IMHO.
you can wIn with japanese at end of war if they will not get enough VP (how much you save from initial phase, the best).
it is only my oppinion.

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:13 am

tbh I've never played a single WITP game with my focus going towards VPs. I think VPs are wrong in this kind of grand strategy game. I know they are necessary to make the AI work correctly ,and because many human's can get themselves over that "key" number, but other than that I see them as useless.

for me you win as the allies if you equal or improve the historical performances of the allied side during WW2.

And you win as the japanese if you manage to put up a tough fight, making the allied side bleed bad for their gains.

In short, you win by waging a war, not by looking at the scoreboard. After all, I'm pretty sure that Hirohito didn't surrender in 1945 because the VP point relationship was 3 to 1 and it was 1945...

Mike Scholl · Post by **Mike Scholl** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:46 am

ORIGINAL: RAM

tbh I've never played a single WITP game with my focus going towards VPs. I think VPs are wrong in this kind of grand strategy game. I know they are necessary to make the AI work correctly ,and because many human's can get themselves over that "key" number, but other than that I see them as useless.

I agree with you 100% RAM. You win by playing! You and your opponant both know who played the best, and in the end those are the only two opinions that matter. VP's force everyone to play to meet the standards of only one person..., the one who decided what was worth how many "VP's". Play for the joy of playing. I wish there was an option to turn VP's off and just play the game...

Hokum · Post by **Hokum** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:19 am

In short, you win by waging a war, not by looking at the scoreboard. After all, I'm pretty sure that Hirohito didn't surrender in 1945 because the VP point relationship was 3 to 1 and it was 1945...

And why did he surrender? And most importantly, how would you simulate those reasons in a game?
VPs are a necessity, they represent the abstract background around a battle/war and simulate it.

RAM · Post by **RAM** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:32 am

Why did he surrender?...

well two cities reduced to atomic waste had something to do with it. Along with the fact that Japan was isolated from the NEI and from the continent, so they didn't have any raw materials to continue the war effort (nor enough food to feed the civil population).

I really don't need a VP screen to tell me I've reached that point in the war...

Said that, yeah, I admitted it, VPs are necessary because not everyone shares my point of view and more importantly because they are related with how the AI works. All I'm saying is that -I- couldn't care the less about Victory Points. If you do, well, good for you

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akdreemer · Post by **akdreemer** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm

ORIGINAL: Miller

Need a few days to get my head round it first.....

Only a few days.. hmmpf.... more like a long couple week vacation.

Mynok · Post by **Mynok** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:12 am

ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl
VP's force everyone to play to meet the standards of only one person..., the one who decided what was worth how many "VP's". Play for the joy of playing. I wish there was an option to turn VP's off and just play the game...

Em...they don't "force" anyone to do anything. They are a number. You can look at it, study it, or ignore it at your leisure.

Historiker · Post by **Historiker** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:09 pm

And little martian? Do you send your death rays according to numbers or do you ignore them and simply whipe the planet out?

Mynok · Post by **Mynok** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:59 pm

Heh. With death rays it's just one big number. [:D]

bradfordkay · Post by **bradfordkay** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:59 pm

In my opinion if you have the game up and running, you've already won! 

Rik81 · Post by **Rik81** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:48 am

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

In my opinion if you have the game up and running, you've already won!

Now this I like![:D] It's probably the closeest I'll come to "winning." "#$%^... the VP's, full speed ahead!"

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