<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>About the Forces de Haute Mer, I suspect there is some confusion. The name "Forces de Haute Mer" (blue water forces) was the official term Vichy used for the French Navy after the 1940 armistice. They were based in Toulon, as it was the only arsenal Vichy controlled ...

GD = General Discussion Forum.

Thanks!

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>The way the fleets are described in the Cruisers book is: <br/>
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Forces navales independantes: <br/>
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These are split into: <br/>
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Force de Raid (Brest) and <br/>
Force de haute mer (Toulon) <e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>
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Well, there is some confusion ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>the naming of the Mediterranean Fleet as Forces De La Haute Mer in 1939, as well as some annoying typos and missing text. I was also baffled by the book NOT referring to the cruiser Pluton as La Tour d'Auvergne as most other sources suggest her name was changed in early 1939 ...

No, HMS PETARD!

HMS London

Correct picture of SHOSEI MARU is here: http://www.geocities.jp/tokusetsukansen/E/110/index.htm

Gilbert

<r> Something looks wrong here as the image depicts a much bigger ship => SHOSEI MARU 3,580 GRT ,completed 29 Nov '38. See it here: <URL url="http://www.geocities.jp/tokusetsukansen/E/110/110TOP2.htm"><LINK_TEXT text="http://www.geocities.jp/tokusetsukansen ... 10TOP2.htm">http://www.geocities.jp ...

<t> Here you go:<br/>
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- Mihoro Naval Air Group: Based at Thi Dau Moi Naval Air Base, French Indochina - consisted of 48 G3M2 "Nells" under command of Captain (later Rear Admiral) Kondo Katsuji (46).<br/>
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- Kanoya Naval Air Group (detachment): Based at Saigon Army Air Base, French ...

<r>
<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: wdolson<br/>
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The Val had fixed wings and the Kate had folding wings. The Val probably couldn't fit on the elevators.<br/>
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Bill
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In fact, the D3A1s had folded wing tips. With their wings/wingtips folded, IJN carrier ...

<r> Yes indeed, Finnish coastal defense ship.<br/>
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Details are here: <URL url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_coastal_defence_ship_V%C3%A4in%C3%A4m%C3%B6inen"><LINK_TEXT text="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_co ... %C3%B6inen">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_coastal_defence ...

<r> and the colorized picture !<br/>
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<IMG src="https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/32531/61EA8804769E45D38D993B21F9F03544.jpg"><s>[img]</s><URL url="https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/32531/61EA8804769E45D38D993B21F9F03544.jpg"><LINK_TEXT text="https://www ...

Torpedo boat Chidori in 1934 after refit.

Her Trom is here: http://www.combinedfleet.com/chidor_t.htm

Gilbert

<r> That destroyer is Ikazuchi of the Akatsuki class. The picture shows her in Chinese waters ca '38.<br/>
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Her TROM is here: <URL url="http://www.combinedfleet.com/ikazuc_t.htm">http://www.combinedfleet.com/ikazuc_t.htm</URL><br/>
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and a summary of her story here: <URL url="http ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Norm3<br/>
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I do believe that TBDs did hit the Shoho in the opening stages of the Coral Sea. Granted it was after the SBDs had wrecked her.
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TBD torpedoes dit hit SHOHO. The following is an excerpt of a forthcoming TROM's ...

Matsu Class destroyer Momi.

Her TROM is here: http://www.combinedfleet.com/momi_t.htm

Gilbert

<r> In fact, the original picture doesn't depict Awata Maru 7,397 GRT '37 but the postwar Awata Maru 7,601 GRT '52.<br/>
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I have attached an enlarged picture of the latter. You can see a radar aerial on the mast atop of bridge, such a device very rarely seen on Japanese Marus during the ...

<r> Hi Mike,<br/>
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In fact one is very similar to the other.<br/>
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Enjoy !<br/>
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Gilbert<br/>
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<IMG src="https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/32531/32837C91069243BB853A0C520E26DD01.jpg"><s>[img]</s><URL url="https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/32531 ...

Thank you. The clue definitively helped because of the "TROM" style. If you want more pictures of her, I have a couple more.

Gilbert

<r> and a 1/700 model built by Motoyuki IWASHIGE<br/>
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