Helpless (Allied) vs Castor Troy (Jpn) / BigB 1.3

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:51 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/42

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 7

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

6 out of 7 Bostons damaged! Heavy flak fire someone could think...

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10
Wellington III x 32
Hudson I x 11
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 55

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Wellington III: 4 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1633 casualties reported
Guns lost 40

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

the same heavy flak fire damages 7 out of 100+ bombers of the next attack... wonder what I should laugh more about, the ridicoulos damage 15+ units with AA weapons are doing to 100 Allied bombers, or the casualties they suffer??? [8|] One Allied bomber out of this attack was lost today... [>:] range 7

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 78
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12
A6M3 Zero x 27

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 65
B5N Kate x 65
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 126
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24
A6M3 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
Liberator III x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Liberator III: 5 destroyed

don´t know what this should be? Probably a wrong range setting as I don´t think Helpless wants to have such strikes at TFs docked at Rangoon. Even if we can´t really fight 100 4Es at the same time, when there are only a dozen bombers attacking then 150 Zeroes are able to take them all down (one turned back).

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Naval bombardment of Bankha, at 20,47

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami
DD Yugure
DD Hatsushima
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shiranuhi
DD Isokaze
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
CL Kuma
CL Natori
CL Naka

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 12
Port supply hits 10

23 casualties?? [:D]

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TF 37 troops unloading over beach at Bankha, 20,47

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported

base on Sumatra...

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TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Sura'iro, 69,96

Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported

dot base Solomons...

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Ground combat at 47,30

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 49289 troops, 593 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 1015

Defending force 12451 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 386

Japanese max assault: 1980 - adjusted assault: 956

Allied max defense: 378 - adjusted defense: 773

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
1564 casualties reported
Guns lost 45
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
316 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

I ordered my 300 bombers on ground attack but not a single attacked. So we try to shred our divisions with a shock attack in this wooden hex... my assault value gets halfed and the Chinese assault value gets doubled. As said before, the best tactic in the Sian-Homan-area is NOT to attack. Just sit and wait and let the attacker bleed himself!

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14294 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3509

Defending force 277750 troops, 922 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8276

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported

troop numbers are decreasing, though the assault value went up this turn...

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 183254 troops, 436 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4987

Defending force 199616 troops, 1492 guns, 762 vehicles, Assault Value = 3605

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:59 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/06/42

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TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Sura'iro, 69,96

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TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Sura'iro, 69,96

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10
Wellington III x 30
Hudson I x 11
B-25C Mitchell x 48

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
510 casualties reported
Guns lost 22

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 129

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

all my forces are doing is taking heavy losses with every attack... see screenshot...

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 45
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-24D Liberator x 62

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 95

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hudson I bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 31
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 65
B5N Kate x 65
Ki-27 Nate x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 31
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Coastal Guns at Medan, 20,45, firing at TF 64
TF 64 troops unloading over beach at Medan, 20,45

99 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Tamashima Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
PG Shoei Maru
PG Seisho Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
AP Sumanoura Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Shirashika Maru
AP Mitsu Maru #3, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Kaika Maru, Shell hits 2
AP Kaihei Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Iwaki Maru

Japanese ground losses:
300 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Some CD guns at that place. Looking at the TF some ships suffered sys damage up to 30 with some fires...

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14340 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3180

Defending force 277647 troops, 924 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8270

Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sura'iro

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 468 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 4 - adjusted assault: 3

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sura'iro base !!!

dot base Solomons...

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 183882 troops, 450 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5016

Defending force 199791 troops, 1493 guns, 763 vehicles, Assault Value = 3613

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Ground combat at Medan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 801 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 39

Defending force 3401 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 104

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Medan is a mountainious hex and I expect some forts also. Means the 100+ assault points I have brought won´t probably be enough... [:(]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:16 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/07/42

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Coastal Guns at Medan, 20,45, firing at TF 64
TF 64 troops unloading over beach at Medan, 20,45

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 74
Ki-21 Sally x 145

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 126

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 5

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

we have no troops left at Myitkina. All units were ordered to march to Mandalay to bring the base back into an operational status when we will have the new IJA fighters ready for flying cap.

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 32
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 41

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Medan Coastal Gun Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 7
Ki-21 Sally x 55
Ki-49 Helen x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd WS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 105
Ki-49 Helen x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

two units were attacked at Medan! I´m happy with that! [:D]

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14340 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3179

Defending force 277218 troops, 919 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8265

Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Bankha

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1301 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Defending force 1228 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese max assault: 46 - adjusted assault: 88

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 3

Japanese assault odds: 29 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bankha base !!!

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

The Allied units are retreating towards Padan, a base 7 or 8 hexes away with 5 hexes of mountains in between. I thought they would surrender. [&:] The 50 points oil center is heavily damaged. 16 points left.

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 184603 troops, 458 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5073

Defending force 199991 troops, 1496 guns, 763 vehicles, Assault Value = 3618

Japanese ground losses:
30 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Medan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 356 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Defending force 3364 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 103

attack tomorrow...

donnie_1974_texas · Post by **donnie_1974_texas** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:08 am

Hi Castor, first time posting on your AAR.  I was looking for threads with folks playing Big B as I am playing one now versus Aztez and am working on starting another one.  I like the feel of A2A - #of hits seems right, there are leaker that get through even strong CAP to launch torps or bombs.  However, the 4E bombers are quite annoying.  I have been doing a little testing with a setup I made with B17s in the PI, all other aircraft stood down and some interceptor groups I added in Formosa.
 
I read earlier your theory about maybe the Tojo/Tony having better success due to higher penetration weapons so I am trying to find out if that is true.
 
No matter how many I damage, they all seem to come back the next day.  I even tried for a couple of days landing some of KB's crack zeros at a targeted base (balikapan) and all they did was damage planes and get shot down for their troubles.  The only defense I can find is a risky offense - trying to bring to bear enough planes to hit all the bases they can sortie from (my problem is in Java) and bombardment runs (not without its cost).
 
Have you found any solution to these monsters?  I am afraid that no fighter will really work - even the late war Japanese fighters are not much better armed - maybe only some of the four cannon armed fighters will work - but that's a long way off.
 
I think the difference may be in armor ratings in Big B versus Stock.  I think if the armor goes down, perhaps the shoot down's increase by a little bit and then maybe the morale really drops and the unit doesn't fly as often.
 
I also am testing a modification to heavy bomber loadout - I am wondering if changing the weapon loadout to a "stick" of bombs (modelled as one weapon device representing a lot of bombs) with somewhat higher effect, but much higher accuracy but maybe 6-8 bombs per stick helps in attacks by the bombers.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:56 am

ORIGINAL: donnie_1974_texas

Hi Castor, first time posting on your AAR. I was looking for threads with folks playing Big B as I am playing one now versus Aztez and am working on starting another one. I like the feel of A2A - #of hits seems right, there are leaker that get through even strong CAP to launch torps or bombs. However, the 4E bombers are quite annoying. I have been doing a little testing with a setup I made with B17s in the PI, all other aircraft stood down and some interceptor groups I added in Formosa.

I read earlier your theory about maybe the Tojo/Tony having better success due to higher penetration weapons so I am trying to find out if that is true.

No matter how many I damage, they all seem to come back the next day. I even tried for a couple of days landing some of KB's crack zeros at a targeted base (balikapan) and all they did was damage planes and get shot down for their troubles. The only defense I can find is a risky offense - trying to bring to bear enough planes to hit all the bases they can sortie from (my problem is in Java) and bombardment runs (not without its cost).

Have you found any solution to these monsters? I am afraid that no fighter will really work - even the late war Japanese fighters are not much better armed - maybe only some of the four cannon armed fighters will work - but that's a long way off.

I think the difference may be in armor ratings in Big B versus Stock. I think if the armor goes down, perhaps the shoot down's increase by a little bit and then maybe the morale really drops and the unit doesn't fly as often.

I also am testing a modification to heavy bomber loadout - I am wondering if changing the weapon loadout to a "stick" of bombs (modelled as one weapon device representing a lot of bombs) with somewhat higher effect, but much higher accuracy but maybe 6-8 bombs per stick helps in attacks by the bombers.

Hi Donnie,

nice to have you aboard!

I feel your pain about the 4Es, I´m experiencing the same! Though my opponent has already a couple of times the numbers of heavy bombers that you are facing in your game as he is already receiving around 150 of them every month! [:D]

I started producing the Tony and Tojo a week ago and already upgraded one sentai each, though they are repairing awfully slowly (Tojo 7 planes a day, Tony only 4 a day - perhaps because it has 3 points more durability, I don´t know). So it will take some time until I can use a good number of those fighters against the incoming air pirates.

I´m hoping for better results as those fighters have armor (which means hopefully less get shot down A2A) and they have a gun value of 12 and it´s 12 also against the 2 armored bombers. The Zero has also a gun value of 12 but against the bombers only a value of 8 as it´s 7,7 mm MGs can´t penetrate the bombers´ armor. I will definetely do better with the Tony/Tojo as the Oscars are completely useless against everything that is not a Chinese biplane fighter. I´m expecting at LEAST two or three times more 4Es shot down when employing only Tojo/Tony instead of Zero/Oscar. Not to forget the higher climb rates of my new fighters so, theoreatically, more should be in the air to intercept the bombers.

We will soon see how they will perform...

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:05 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/08/42

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TF 1051 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
DD Drayton, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

sub laid mines at Canton! Laid them three turns ago with two of my mine layer subs. One is always in port for repairs while two are doing their missions. So far those subs are the most succesful... Canton is already a port 5 so I doubt the Drayton will sink as it did not immediately go down...

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Wellington III x 35
Hudson I x 10
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 45

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Wellington III: 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
770 casualties reported
Guns lost 32

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 111

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

My troops from Myitkina are entering Mandalay so this means there are now for sure around 20 units with lots of AA guns. They manage to damage 4 bombers of which none is lost. They take a lot of casualties in return again... All the 105 and 75mm flak guns are not firing as the bombers come in too low... Good thing is that even after 111 runway hits the airfield is already completely repaired again as I´m having 750 engineers there already. Will be hard to close the base now and soon I will have some IJA fighters there...[:D]

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
D3A Val x 42
B5N Kate x 36

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st NS Garrison Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24
Ki-21 Sally x 90
Ki-49 Helen x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on Medan Coastal Gun Battalion, at 20,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 89
Ki-49 Helen x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Medan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3430 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 105

Defending force 1209 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Japanese max assault: 105 - adjusted assault: 49

Allied max defense: 5 - adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Medan base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
3298 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

we capture the base on the first attempt, the oil field is 50% damaged though... Glad that those units surrendered and were not retreating towards a base that is 12 hexes away...

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14354 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3176

Defending force 277119 troops, 913 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8263

Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 185087 troops, 473 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5110

Defending force 200030 troops, 1498 guns, 758 vehicles, Assault Value = 3619

Recon shows another 3 units coming from Chungking towards the hot area of Sian-Homan. Think there must be more than a million troops there... [:D]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:19 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/09/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 46
Ki-21 Sally x 142

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 27
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 167

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3 Zero x 42

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 47
Liberator III x 46
B-17E Fortress x 31
LB-30 Liberator x 12
B-24D Liberator x 2
IL-4c x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 15 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 4 destroyed, 30 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 17 destroyed, 13 damaged
Liberator III: 7 destroyed, 32 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 7 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
IL-4c: 8 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
355 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Liberator III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Blenheim IV bombing at 6000 feet

the daitais I moved to Taung Gyi of course attracted an Allied bomber strike! The results favoured us this time though. Two reasons why we had the upper hand this time regarding losses. First: most of our fighters scrambled and therefore there weren´t dozens destroyed on the ground. 42 out of 54 A6M3 and 24 out of 27 A6M2 engaged today. All with cap 90%. Means all 90% of the A6M2 scrambled!!! [&o] Now I have just to figure out how this was possible as I´m only getting 50-60% of the planes to scramble most of the time! Second: there were a lot of Blenheims and a dozen of IL4c which both suffered. Would have looked totally different if those 2E bombers would have stayed home. In fact I don´t see a reason why my opponent includes those bombers in his attacks if he would achieve far better results with 4E only attacks.

We achieved a 3:1 in planes lost today! Taung Gyi is stripped of planes again as a follow up strike would be fatal. Around 35 planes sitting damaged at the airfield. Hoping for no follow up strike.

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Day Air attack on 14th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 4
Ki-21 Sally x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 34th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 89

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

would call those ground losses "minor". Not to compare with the 500-1000 casualties caused by the Allied airfield strikes.

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14314 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3178

Defending force 276360 troops, 901 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8250

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 185425 troops, 483 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5143

Defending force 200449 troops, 1506 guns, 758 vehicles, Assault Value = 3624

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

I´m really amazed that with less troops the Chinese have 1500 assault points than my troops...

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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 75901 troops, 295 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2489

Defending force 161451 troops, 1649 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 3054

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:38 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/10/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 39
Ki-21 Sally x 143

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 194

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
P-40C Tomahawk x 52
A-20B Boston x 11

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
206 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
5 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Wellington III x 34
Hudson I x 11
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 47

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 8 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1336 casualties reported
Guns lost 33

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 97

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 21
Liberator III x 18
B-17E Fortress x 31
LB-30 Liberator x 10
B-24D Liberator x 3
IL-4c x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
689 casualties reported
Guns lost 12

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 82

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet

Helpless has discovered the PERFECT ALLIED BOMBING ALTITUDE of 6000 ft. While he varied his altitude in the past, we are now facing 6000 ft. bombing runs only. There is only one smiley that I can use for my further comments:

. This is not just some rant, it really seems the designers (as well as the beta testers) must have been completely drunk (or nuts?) while designing and testing...

18 out of nearly 200 bombers damaged...

2200+ ground losses

no matter if those are mostly disablements, those units get completely wrecked in two turns...

If there is really someone of the responsibles thinking that this is realistic (while the number of AA units isn´t realistic either) then I only can say: I´m sorry for you! Hope you will feel better again someday... [8|] Today, I lost 4 Sallies to ops (range 3, against a undefended target). The Allied lost 2 bombers to flak today against this base (range 7):

another

for the one who designed the Japanese flak routine... A single US base force can put up more flak fire than half of the Japanese flak units of the whole map... another

note that not all of the base forces are displayed in the screenshot as there are too many of them... [8|]

place the same amount of US units at a base and send in 100 Sallies and 90 won´t return... [8|]

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 32
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Runway hits 26
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 41

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 34th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 35th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 29
Ki-21 Sally x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 58

Allied aircraft
I-153c x 11
I-16c x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
I-16c: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14334 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3177

Defending force 276031 troops, 884 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8245

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 185834 troops, 491 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5166

Defending force 200631 troops, 1512 guns, 762 vehicles, Assault Value = 3632

Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 48,29

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 75825 troops, 294 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2491

Defending force 161663 troops, 1651 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 3063

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:09 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/11/42

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TF 1030 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
MSW Ungava
MSW Outarde
MSW Nipigon
DMS Boggs

the sub laid mines at Canton get cleared again...

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TF 1030 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
MSW Ungava
MSW Outarde
MSW Nipigon
DMS Boggs

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 7
Wellington III x 26
Hudson I x 11
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 50

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 3 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
407 casualties reported
Guns lost 18

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

those attacks against the best defended base in the whole world (when we talk about the number of flak guns) can be flown every day at a range of 7 with every day the same number of planes from the same squadrons because the bombers don´t even get damaged and the few damaged are repaired the next day. Allied bombers are also not suffering any op losses that could make an Allied commander think about not to attack the world´s biggest flak base. [8|] IMO a pretty bad joke... don´t need to post another screeny of the AA units... "Good" that there are enough "wrongs" on the Japanese side also that favour the Japanese (unlimited Betty torps comes to mind), so noone could think about such things being "strange" during the programming... [;)]

As a side note, perhaps it´s good that those AA units are doing nothing as they are mostly equipped with 105mm guns which they didn´t have in real life anyway... just another boo boo dream of someone...

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 44
B-17E Fortress x 25
B-24D Liberator x 14

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 76

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 26
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14354 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3174

Defending force 276011 troops, 886 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8240

Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 186360 troops, 497 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5210

Defending force 200882 troops, 1520 guns, 761 vehicles, Assault Value = 3638

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:21 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/12/42

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TF 6 encounters mine field at Norfolk Island (60,119)

Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Yoshida Maru

damn, forgot to include MSWs...

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TF 6 encounters mine field at Norfolk Island (60,119)

TF 6 troops unloading over beach at Norfolk Island, 60,119

Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Yoshida Maru
AP Sanko Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Coastal Guns at Norfolk Island, 60,119, firing at TF 6
168 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru, Shell hits 1
PG Shotoku Maru

Japanese ground losses:
806 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 3

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TF 6 encounters mine field at Norfolk Island (60,119)

TF 6 troops unloading over beach at Norfolk Island, 60,119

Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Yoshida Maru
AP Peking Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
PG Shotoku Maru

Coastal Guns at Norfolk Island, 60,119, firing at TF 6
174 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Zuiko Maru, Shell hits 6

Japanese ground losses:
377 casualties reported

at this point I was still confident as we were landing half of a brigade...

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 67
Ki-21 Sally x 146

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 120

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 71

Allied aircraft
I-153c x 30
I-16c x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 15 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 15 destroyed
I-16c: 33 destroyed

14 of the 15 destroyed Oscars were downed during the inevitable bounce phase... so the Chinese fighters once again did 14 times better with the bounce than without it... when the bounce was over (all 14 Oscars were from the 64 fighter sentai btw, so only this sentai was bounced...) the IJA and IJN fighters cleared the skies achieving a kill rate of 35:1 or better...[8D]

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 21

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB-2c bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Wellington III x 26
Hudson I x 9
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 45

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Wellington III: 4 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged
F-5A Lightning: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1037 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 91

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 8000 feet

the bombers went up 2000 ft again... there´s nothing left at Mandalay that can shoot, so it doesn´t matter anymore what altitude the bombers are coming in. Have a look, this is how my AA and base forces look like after a couple of attacks...

A hundred threads about IJN BB nuke bombardments, but what about those air raids? They inflict easily the same amount of ground losses - to be more precise they are killing the units that should kill the bombers... very accurate...

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 24
Liberator III x 20
B-17E Fortress x 27
LB-30 Liberator x 6
B-24D Liberator x 3
IL-4c x 4

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Liberator III: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 61

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 41

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 22
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14335 troops, 462 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3176

Defending force 275541 troops, 880 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8240

Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Norfolk Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4465 troops, 67 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Defending force 6663 troops, 63 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Japanese max assault: 228 - adjusted assault: 0

Allied max defense: 102 - adjusted defense: 101

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 9)

Japanese ground losses:
1628 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 7

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

here comes the disaster! Level 9 forts????? [X(][X(][X(] There is a Dutch base force and a part of an Australian brigade. Recon never showed a single unit more, not to talk about a lot of engineer units. Nevertheless I face level 9 forts. [:(] Adjusted assault value of 0 isn´t bad ehh?? But it will come even worse...

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 186860 troops, 501 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5250

Defending force 201041 troops, 1528 guns, 759 vehicles, Assault Value = 3639

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Norfolk Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4847 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Defending force 2352 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

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56th Brigade Wiped Out at Norfolk Island by attrition!!! [X(][X(][X(]

during the combat replay the ground combat at Norfolk showed a 56th Brigade and a 56/1 Brigade! Why the hell are there two parts of the ground unit? I unloaded them from ONE TF all at the same time, so what does this crazy game do when it creates suddenly TWO parts of the only unit I unload!

The result is that the 56 th Brigade (parent unit) was only a tiny fragment while the 56/1 Brigade had 99% of the troops in it that were unloaded. The parent unit gets wiped out by attrition and now as I check the LCU it says 56/1 Brigade.... [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@] This means the damn game again goes crazy and I lost a brigade now as the fragment didn´t change into the parent unit and now the fragment won´t rebuild...

VERY GOOD WORKING PRODUCT ONCE AGAIN!!! [&o]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:37 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/13/42

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TF 1030 encounters mine field at Canton Island (98,99)

Allied Ships
MSW Ungava
MSW Outarde
MSW Nipigon
DMS Boggs

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Naval bombardment of Koepang, at 28,77

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Colorado
DD Arunta
DD Ward
DD Paul Jones
DD Edsall
DD Alden
CL Dragon
CL Adelaide
CL Perth

Japanese ground losses:
730 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 46
Port hits 9
Port supply hits 13

My opponent is spotting my barges all the time and this turn they should arrive at Koepang, though I have kept them one hex outside the base and the BBs missed them. Only nuking the nearly empty base. Those TFs are never ever spotted, for a reason I don´t know...[&:]

BB Mississippi is part of this slow TF that should end up 4 hexes from Koepang - means in range of my Betties at Kendari. Doesn´t help me as I have yet to spot one of those big bombardment TFs since the beginning of the game... and we´re already in July...

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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 16

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
2 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 31
Liberator III x 28
LB-30 Liberator x 8
B-24D Liberator x 3
IL-4c x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Liberator III: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
531 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 12000 feet

Weather never seems a problem. The raids are going in daily. I need two days to repair the damage so I hope the Allied will also be effected by thunderstorms at one day.

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14324 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2697

Defending force 275554 troops, 872 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8240

Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 187405 troops, 506 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5288

Defending force 201211 troops, 1528 guns, 760 vehicles, Assault Value = 3642

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Benkolen

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 266 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 12 - adjusted assault: 5

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Benkolen base !!!

paradrop on empty base on Sumatra.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:55 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/14/42

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Sub attack near Koepang at 28,77

Japanese Ships
AG AG-5115, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

a 40mm hit was enough to sink the barge...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Koepang at 28,77

Japanese Ships
AG AG-101
AG AG-102
AG AG-103
AG AG-104, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-105
AG AG-107
AG AG-108
AG AG-109
AG AG-111
AG AG-112
AG AG-113
AG AG-114
AG AG-116
AG AG-117
AG AG-118
AG AG-119
AG AG-120
AG AG-121
AG AG-122
AG AG-123
AG AG-351
AG AG-352
AG AG-354
AG AG-355
AG AG-356
AG AG-357
AG AG-359
AG AG-361
AG AG-362
AG AG-363, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
AG AG-364
AG AG-365, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AG AG-366
AG AG-367
AG AG-369
AG AG-370
AG AG-373
AG AG-374
AG AG-375
AG AG-5112
AG AG-5113
AG AG-5114, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AG AG-5116
AG AG-5117

Allied Ships
CL Perth
CL Adelaide
CL Dragon
DD Arunta

the escorts of the bombardment TF came back. With my next barge convoy I will try to intercept the US BBs with my Nagatos. Hopefully he will come back also when he spottes my barges. Am building up Maumere now, from there my Betties can cover the area South of Timor to Northern Australia. Better say could cover, as so far I wasn´t lucky with Betty attacks against high value targets in range.

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Ki-21 Sally x 146

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 135

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 8

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

two small IJA base forces damage 5 out of 8 Bostons. None is lost though.

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 28
Hudson I x 9
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 43

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Wellington III: 3 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
489 casualties reported
Guns lost 11

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 92

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

no AA unit left, only four base forces. They do the same damage as 5 times the number of AA units... 2 Mitchells are lost today.

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Day Air attack on Myitkyina , at 36,28

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1

No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
D3A Val x 48
B5N Kate x 41

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 8th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 35th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 71

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14334 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2696

Defending force 275211 troops, 865 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8245

Allied ground losses:
190 casualties reported

assault value is increasing again. Have ordered a Chutai of Oscars to LRCAP Homan. Let´s see if my opponent flies supplies in. Could explain the high losses of transport ac he took so far.

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 187970 troops, 508 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5776

Defending force 201123 troops, 1531 guns, 760 vehicles, Assault Value = 3645

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:26 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/15/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 27
Wellington III x 33
Hudson I x 10
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
400 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 93

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

moved 81 Zeroes to Taung Gyi two hexes from Mandalay and those 15 Zeroes are leaking Cap. I lose 3 Zeroes A2A today, the Allied lose 6 bombers. A kill ratio that I can´t sustain long. Nearly 100 hits every day on the airfield is just too much to be repaired. Got 700+ engineers at Mandalay but the airfield stays around 30% damage while the service damage of course always stays at 100%. Can´t get this airfield working again if those bombers never stop flying against this base at a range of 7... unbelievable...

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36
D3A Val x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 37
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on Cebu , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
D3A Val x 24
B5N Kate x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Runway hits 14
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14324 troops, 463 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2693

Defending force 275782 troops, 889 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8266

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported

assault value and troop numbers are increasing... [:(] Hard to understand for me!

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 203783 troops, 547 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5817

Defending force 201102 troops, 1535 guns, 761 vehicles, Assault Value = 3649

Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:59 pm

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/16/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 173

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Airbase hits 55
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 231

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
A6M3 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 20
Wellington III x 41
Hudson I x 12
F-5A Lightning x 1
B-25C Mitchell x 38

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
Wellington III: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
571 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wellington III bombing at 13000 feet

78 undamaged Zeroes were at this airfield, with a cap setting of 90%. I get 35 of them in the air, which is exactly 50% of the planes on CAP... [8|] Really funny to read the thread "are Japanese players smarter"... wonder if I´m playing another game than what is described in this thread. Perhaps I´m just dumb and I´m doing something wrong when I lose 4 times more fighters than the Allied lost bombers this turn because 30 fighters get torched on the ground.

When playing Allied I really like my AWACS that are around at the whole map. They enable me to have always ALL fighters in the air that are set on Cap. At Rangoon I now have 300 fighters (which is completely ridicoulos!!!!) and all of them are set on 90% Cap and around 100 are in the air... So one bomber strike would probably destroy 200 fighters. UNESCORTED bomber strike I have to add. Not because the mod doesn´t work, it´s because the whole air combat routine is cr*p. I know that it´s not realistic to have 100% of the fighters in the air (like the Allied have 90% of the time), but to have always 50% of the planes at an airfield destroyed for sure because only half of the Cap scrambles is at least "strange"...

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
A6M3 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 14
Blenheim IV x 26
Liberator III x 34
B-17E Fortress x 41
LB-30 Liberator x 11
B-24D Liberator x 14
IL-4c x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 damaged
Liberator III: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
IL-4c: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
563 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 97

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 14000 feet

allied B52 destroy more than 50 fighters today and completely wreck 4 base forces... [>:]for the loss of a dozen bombers... unsecorted, against a base with nearly 80 Zeroes with an average exp. around 80...

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Day Air attack on Efate , at 73,109

Allied aircraft
PB2Y Coronado x 3
B-24D Liberator x 41

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
21 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st Re. Army Cavalry Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 59

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 34th Central Army Corps, at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 41
Ki-21 Sally x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 14
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 56

No Allied losses

lol, what should have those fighters found at Mandalay after the SWEEP with 250 bombers??

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Ground combat at Homan

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 14334 troops, 464 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2694

Defending force 276206 troops, 902 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8278

Allied ground losses:
222 casualties reported

for what reason ever the Allied assault value suddenly goes up 10+ points again each turn. This turn 13 guns were "repaired". What is happening here? [X(] I don´t know for how many weeks Homan is completely cut off and how many HUNDRED supply hits my bombers have achieved but the Allied suddenly seem to have no supply shortage at all. Flak was suddenly strong this turn compared to the last three dozen attacks, so there magically must have popped up supplies en masse. No supplies are flown in as my LRCAP doesn´t intercept anything. There is no way that there can suddenly be supply. May be paranoia but I sometimes really wonder if save games can be manipulated... I know they can, though I don´t know if everything is possible...[8|]

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Ground combat at Sian

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 204315 troops, 550 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5860

Defending force 201108 troops, 1539 guns, 761 vehicles, Assault Value = 3653

Japanese ground losses:
117 casualties reported

just shaking my head about this turn...

goodboyladdie · Post by **goodboyladdie** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:14 pm

His radar is what makes the difference in CAP. When it comes to your losses against bombers, that's what happens when your fighters are made out of tissue paper...

goodboyladdie · Post by **goodboyladdie** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:18 pm

"for what reason ever the Allied assault value suddenly goes up 10+ points again each turn. This turn 13 guns were "repaired". What is happening here? I don´t know for how many weeks Homan is completely cut off and how many HUNDRED supply hits my bombers have achieved but the Allied suddenly seem to have no supply shortage at all. Flak was suddenly strong this turn compared to the last three dozen attacks, so there magically must have popped up supplies en masse. No supplies are flown in as my LRCAP doesn´t intercept anything. There is no way that there can suddenly be supply. May be paranoia but I sometimes really wonder if save games can be manipulated... I know they can, though I don´t know if everything is possible..."

Steady on, Old Chap! I know Pavel and I do not think he would cheat. Ask him about the supply situation. If he has not got a magic method that he would not want you to know, he may be able to help you work out what happened.

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:20 pm

ORIGINAL: goodboyladdie

"for what reason ever the Allied assault value suddenly goes up 10+ points again each turn. This turn 13 guns were "repaired". What is happening here? I don´t know for how many weeks Homan is completely cut off and how many HUNDRED supply hits my bombers have achieved but the Allied suddenly seem to have no supply shortage at all. Flak was suddenly strong this turn compared to the last three dozen attacks, so there magically must have popped up supplies en masse. No supplies are flown in as my LRCAP doesn´t intercept anything. There is no way that there can suddenly be supply. May be paranoia but I sometimes really wonder if save games can be manipulated... I know they can, though I don´t know if everything is possible..."

Steady on, Old Chap! I know Pavel and I do not think he would cheat. Ask him about the supply situation. If he has not got a magic method that he would not want you to know, he may be able to help you work out what happened.

ahh, I didn´t say he cheats... [:D]

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:22 pm

ORIGINAL: goodboyladdie

His radar is what makes the difference in CAP. When it comes to your losses against bombers, that's what happens when your fighters are made out of tissue paper...

it´s not the problem that my fighters are shot down. The kill ratio of bombers vs fighters works VERY WELL in Brians mod. Not like stock when 50 Zeroes take down 100 B25. 80-90% of the fighters get torched on the ground every time...

goodboyladdie · Post by **goodboyladdie** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:39 pm

In 1.4 Brian has revised the A2A model again, so it will be interesting to see how that plays.

Miller · Post by **Miller** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:44 pm

Playing the same mod as both sides. I understand your pain with regards the B17s being almost immune to Zero's, but the results are pretty much what you would expect in real life.

The Luftwaffe often intercepted unescorted raids with heavily armed/armoured (and much faster) FW190s and achieved something like a 3:1 kill ratio. Imagine if they had used Zeros.....I doubt they would have got better than 1:1 that we see in your (and my) games.

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