<r><QUOTE author="tabpub"><s>[QUOTE=tabpub]</s>Mike, I think the problem that you might be having is the size of the strip that you are basing the 17's out of. There seems to be a correlation between your losses and your missions out of Wunpuko and Kourotopo(sic). Both those bases are small as I ...

<r>It is true that an increase in planes allocated to search increases the operational losses to a point that the Japanese plaer cannot maintain indefinitely, I notice in one of my sc 17 PPBEM's just such an operational loss by my Japanese opponent.<br/>
Also, on a few occasions in this game I have ...

<r>Mogami, I'm not surprised enemy tf's can sneak up on you in UV when playing allies, as you don't use your long range bombers for naval search.<br/>
I'm amazed you can spot anything much if you rely on Catalinas...there are so few of them.<br/>
I think this may prove the case that Naval Search is ...

<r><QUOTE author="Mogami"><s>[QUOTE=Mogami]</s>Hi, These numbers are from one of my PBEM games. The date is 11-24-42<br/>
I have lost a total of 23 B-17E so far.<br/>
I do not fly naval strikes or patrol with B-17. I also do not train the groups because they are already mostly trained. So these ...

...and what are you wearing? *what! no lewd emoticon!? oh well*

<r>No Mr Frag, I'm too slack <E>:D</E> <br/>
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Seriously though, just fly a few missions in clear or partly cloudy weather, with reasonably skilled low fatigue high morale pilots, at normal range (why not long range...they were designed for it), against targets devoid of flak or fighters and you ...

<r><QUOTE author="Mr.Frag"><s>[QUOTE=Mr.Frag]</s>Mike? 10-20% Operational losses???<br/>
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Thats 1-2 planes for every flight of 10. 30 odd days in a month, thats 30-60 planes a month! You don't get that many B-17's!<br/>
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I think you are in denial <IMG src="http://www.matrixgames.com ...

<r>I agree with you Mdiehl regarding how B17's <B><s>[B]</s>should<e>[/B]</e></B> be modelled, but they aren't in UV in my experience.<br/>
Apparently a while back, some UV users were very vocal regarding the effectiveness of B17's generally and Matrix penalized the B17's operational durability to ...

I'm of the opinion now that the best use for B17's in UV is scouting and the occasional mission en-masse to close an airfield.
I've tried sustained night ops against ports to work on supply levels at enemy bases but the operational losses are astronomical and the results pathetic.

Report it with it's own thread Warspite.
Send a save or two if possible to Mogami.
I believe many people don't report these little gliches 'cause they think it's already been noted by Matrix...or they are just slack.
We should get all these little gremlins sorted.

<t>Extra pilots in bomber squadrons is a huge disadvantage.<br/>
Unlike fighter squads, where the most experienced pilots sortie unless tired, the program sends the least experienced bomber pilots out on bomb runs.<br/>
When those newbie pilots with below 50 skill show up in my B17 squads it means ...

<t>Yes, a difficult question.<br/>
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I was faced with the question a little while back in a PBEM.<br/>
Playing as Allies, I had lots of engineers on Gavignama building the base and maintaining aircraft when my opponent fast transported a brigade in.<br/>
I didn't have a lot in the area (15 ship ...

This forum is just so darn full of positivists, maximalists and allied neo-apologists.
If an allied player is too thick to keep more than a couple Wildcats alive in UV then to hell with him and his wussy aircraft.

<r>IMO the ability to organize cohesive strikes is the best quality of a CV tf commander. Apparently the carefull commanders are best at this.<br/>
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In my experiences so far Spruance rarely sends out piece-meal airstrkes which tend to get totally chewed up. Also, I haven't noticed him keeping ...

<r>Yeah, the wheels fell off the Allied push big time.<br/>
It is <B><s>[B]</s>very<e>[/B]</e></B> easy for the Allies to get overconfident after some initial successes but the way reinforcements work Japan can counterattack pretty strongly.<br/>
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It's been a great AAR so far with all the cut ...

Hey RevRick,

Good luck with the procedure. I've heard good things about it.
I feel your pain...literally...I've got the same kind of problem.
Back pain is no laughing matter

<r>Chiteng, I've seen plenty of results in UV that recreate the Tassafronga experience. <br/>
The "Long Lance" attack in UV is deadly and can wreck an entire taskforce, not just a few cruisers as at Tassafronga.<br/>
It just happened to me in a PBEM game. All my ships except one in a 15 ship ...

<t>The game does have a lot of frustrating features and outright bugs.<br/>
Many of the veterans have been here from the start and do not see the bugs any more. They find workarounds and use them. They even come to consider some of the bugs "normal" and not needing to be fixed.<br/>
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Meanwhile ...

<r>OMG, you guys are talking about UV Med !<br/>
After WITP comes out, it is my guess Matrix will be years bringing it to a reasonable state...probably we can forget about the <B><s>[B]</s>many<e>[/B]</e></B> fixes UV needs.<br/>
If you guys keep clamoring for UV Med you may just get your wish...and ...

From what I've read, Marine fighter pilots at least were qualified for carrier operations. It was part of their training.